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My 1st cycle and looking for input and advice.

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Sparky_332

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Good morning gents, I am about to start my 1st cycle and was looking for some input and advice. Some background about me.. 45 YO, 175 lb @ 12-14% BF. 5 years of lifting experience. The last 2 years has primarily been Power Lifting with my best total 1195 @171 lb.
My intended cycle looks like this...
Test prop @ 75 mg ED or 150 mg EOD. (I would prefer EOD but have read that ED pins create more stable blood levels? Double the jabs though) Very much need input here.
HGH @ 4 IU ED split into AM and PM 2 IU pins. I could use input on timing here.
Adex @ .25 mg EOD
HCG @ 500 IU per week split into (2) 250 IU pins Mon/Thurs. Timing?
I am planning on running this for 12 weeks but have read/heard conflicting opinions about 8 weeks vs 12 weeks for such a cycle. Again, input here would be greatly appreciated.

PCT beginning 5 dats after last prop injection...
Clomid 50-50-50-50
Nolva 20-20-20-20
I have enough PCT supplies to up the dose of both agents if necessary. I have seen many advocate a 1000 IU pin of HCG here as well but again, lots of conflicting opinions. I will probably stay on the HGH long term as funds allow but go to 2 IU ED (youth clinic style) if funds become an issue. Suggestions?

My goals for this cycle are to safely add 6-8 lean pounds while reducing BF by 2-4 %. I have all of the above supplies on hand and do not want to add orals or any exotic compounds to my 1st cycle. I hope these goals are realistic and value any construvctive criticism and advice you all have to offer. I won't bullshit, I'm a bit nervous but super stoked. I'm hoping you guys can help me get it "just right" so my 1st cycle can be as good as possible. Thank you all in advance.
P.S, I initially posted this in the New Members Intro area. I'm an electronic Fucktard so I appologize for any ediquette violations. It was unintentional.
 
The way you outlined your proposed cycle is perfectly fine. The only comment i have is that if i choose short esters, its because i choose a short cycle. So 8 wks is typically what most bb'rs will run with a short ester. But there's no law suggesting you cant run it longer. And EOD protocol is fine with prop. No need to inject daily.

And i run my hCG on-cycle (250iu 2/wk) to prevent or reduce testicular atrophy, rather than blast at the end in order to treat it.
 
Thank Northern, I appreciate the feed back and will run the HCG on cycle. That was my initial thought. No need for on cycle and post cycle blast?
 
You will not notice a difference between ed and eod. Looks like you have put some thought in your first cycle. I can see you surpassing the goal of 6-8 lean.

Most first cycles don't include hgh, but I think you could with the research you have put into this.

Good luck bro and enjoy. You will feel like superman soon.
 
@ BP and Northern, Thanks so much for the info and encouragement. If you guys see me surpassing my goals with this cycle, what would be realistic? 8-12 lean lbs? What do you think the high end might be? I realize that diet,training and genetics will be huge factors but generally speaking can you guesstimate?
 
Sparky_332 said:
@ BP and Northern, Thanks so much for the info and encouragement. If you guys see me surpassing my goals with this cycle, what would be realistic? 8-12 lean lbs? What do you think the high end might be? I realize that diet,training and genetics will be huge factors but generally speaking can you guesstimate?
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8-12 lbs of real muscle would be absolute best case scenario, not impossible, but improbable.

I would recommend doing baseline bloods before starting, just to see where you're at. You may need TRT, or be putting yourself at risk to need it after this cycle.
 
@ Wunderpus, What would I be looking for as far as baseline? Currently in need of TRT? If I have low T it will put me at risk of needing TRT post cycle? Is there any modifications to the cycle that would mitigate this risk? I don't ask this in a anarky way. Legitimately interested/concerned.
 
The older you get, the more you put yourself at risk of your system not rebooting properly after your cycle.

Also, getting baseline TT levels will allow you to see where you are pre and post cycle. To see if you've recovered well.

If you need TRT anyway, it makes cycling much easier. For example, if your TT is ~200, you'll want to hop onto TRT, and I imagine your goals will be met (physiologically).
 
That makes sense. I will get the bloodwork scheduled in. Anything else I should include in the bloodwork (cycle related) besides cholesterol/trigs and the standard fair?
 
Make sure they test your actual testosterone levels, as some tests will read "<150" for example, you want to know exactly where you're at.

Do you have any symptoms of low T?
 
If I do it too close to bed, I have trouble sleeping. Just pin whenever is convenient man, doesn't make a difference really.

You're not running anything unusual like TNE, Inj. dbol or whatever. You're good.
 
My only concern with your cycle is the HGH protocol... Are you only planning on running HGH for the duration of your cycle, or are you planning on staying with it for 3-6 months?
 
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