How do you time your meals?

[dnoyez]

I have been getting used to the leangains protocol.Actually I have been having success with this intermittent fasting as I don't eat until 12 and train fasted in the mornings.I work second shift hours so it works good for me.The idea is to consume all of your macros in an 8 hour period say between 12 noon and 8 pm.That just blows the whole theory of what the body can and cant process in an aloted time.But its been working for me.I have experienced good body recomposition thus far.Training in that state seems much better for me.Its a different animal all together.I have been doing this during the week.Weekends i load up by having a huge breakfast sat-sun.Kind of like a recharge or reset.

 

[TyroneMoreGains]

I have been getting used to the leangains protocol.Actually I have been having success with this intermittent fasting as I don't eat until 12 and train fasted in the mornings.I work second shift hours so it works good for me.The idea is to consume all of your macros in an 8 hour period say between 12 noon and 8 pm.That just blows the whole theory of what the body can and cant process in an aloted time.But its been working for me.I have experienced good body recomposition thus far.Training in that state seems much better for me.Its a different animal all together.I have been doing this during the week.Weekends i load up by having a huge breakfast sat-sun.Kind of like a recharge or reset.

Yeah, that's exactly how I eat
I didn't know that there was a whole protocol though.
I just eat that way because it fits my work schedule.

 

[Docd187123]

Im not gonna buy some guys blog (Chris Mason) over many years of scientific studies , sorry . If science says we can only absorb so much protein in one sitting Im sure they have their reasons to believe so....and the proof.

And remember too, excess protein converts to storage fat just like excess carbs convert to fat . You might think that 500gms of protein you just ate that day is gonna give you 20" arms , in reality you now have a 38" waist...

The science and research does not say you can only absorb so much protein in a sitting nor is their proof to back that up. That article was written by Alan Aragon not Mason. And the likelihood of protein being stored as fat is about as good as getting struck by lightening. Maybe twice lol

 

[Oregongearhead]

The science and research does not say you can only absorb so much protein in a sitting nor is their proof to back that up. That article was written by Alan Aragon not Mason. And the likelihood of protein being stored as fat is about as good as getting struck by lightening. Maybe twice lol

Excess protein is converted into glucose which is stored as fat . At least thats what I was taught...

 

[weighted chinup]

Excess protein is converted into glucose which is stored as fat . At least thats what I was taught...

Amino acids / glucogenic amino acids can get converted into glucose when consumed in excess through gluconeogenesis / GNG but even glucose will not get directly stored as fat. Protein and carbs don't get directly stored as fat unless someone is doing something crazy. For carbs to get stored as fat the body has to reverse or use some enzymatic pathway or something, I don't remember off the top of my head but it requires the lifter to eat like 1000g of carbs for several days.

But you are correct in that a caloric surplus regardless of what it is made up of, even protein, will contribute to fat gain. It just causes whatever dietary fat you eat to get stored as fat.

 

[Oregongearhead]

Excess protein is converted into glucose which is stored as fat . At least thats what I was taught...

"When blood glucose gets low, your energy plummets and you may find it hard to concentrate. Your body can temporarily fill the gap by drawing on glucose stored in your liver, but those supplies are limited. When they run out, your body can produce glucose from fats and proteins." -LIVESTRONG

 

[Docd187123]

"When blood glucose gets low, your energy plummets and you may find it hard to concentrate. Your body can temporarily fill the gap by drawing on glucose stored in your liver, but those supplies are limited. When they run out, your body can produce glucose from fats and proteins." -LIVESTRONG

Re-read what you highlighted, it doesn't say what you think it says

 

[Oregongearhead]

Re-read what you highlighted, it doesn't say what you think it says

Thats just a LIVESTRONG quote , although other med-sites say basically the same thing about protein glucose conversion . Who knows ? Who cares ? Im no scientist or even a certified dietician (although I do PLAY one on the internet sometimes )

 

[ergomaniac]

Thats just a LIVESTRONG quote , although other med-sites say basically the same thing about protein glucose conversion . Who knows ? Who cares ? Im no scientist or even a certified dietician (although I do PLAY one on the internet sometimes )

who knows. who cares, you care. so do I .
eat too many carbs and you may gain fat...despite.

 

[ErikR]

I think timing your carbs make a big difference as far as body composition goes. I tried multiple ways of eating throughout the years and at least for me I can eat way more carbs if I eat the post workout and a few hours after. Almost a carb back loading type. Eating this way I'm able to get lean fast or gain without getting fat. I tried carbs for breakfast and before workout only for a week and looked like shit and lost nothing and looked soft. That was on 100g total carbs daily. If I eat them post workout I can eat 300g and still get lean. And I look lean and vascular. I guess it depends.

 

[manafest]

I eat crbs , fat , pros every meal and I eat 5 to 8 times daily never noticed any difference in timing anything really...calorie surplus you gain.. calorie deficit you lose...Yes it's really that simple....

 

[Oregongearhead]

I eat crbs , fat , pros every meal and I eat 5 to 8 times daily never noticed any difference in timing anything really...calorie surplus you gain.. calorie deficit you lose...Yes it's really that simple....

Thats how I have always looked at it . Drop calories to drop weight . In my older years though I try to stay away from high carbs/sugar at night . Its just too hard to diet away these days . Trying to stay lean yr around , but its getting harder every yr.

 

[manafest]

Thats how I have always looked at it . Drop calories to drop weight . In my older years though I try to stay away from high carbs/sugar at night . Its just too hard to diet away these days . Trying to stay lean yr around , but its getting harder every yr.

yea..I stay away from sugar always...carbs I eat at nite if it still fits to get my total

 

[ErikR]

Everbody is different as far as their tolerance to carbs. The leaner you are the more carbs you can have. Carbs are used for energy but for some the carbs are working against them and they get fat. Constantly elevated insulin levels are not good for fat loss. I don't think its that simple as calories in vs calories out for everybody.

 

[manafest]

Everbody is different as far as their tolerance to carbs. The leaner you are the more carbs you can have. Carbs are used for energy but for some the carbs are working against them and they get fat. Constantly elevated insulin levels are not good for fat loss. I don't think its that simple as calories in vs calories out for everybody.

It is that simple...calorie deficit for anyone you will lose.

 

[Docd187123]

Thats just a LIVESTRONG quote , although other med-sites say basically the same thing about protein glucose conversion . Who knows ? Who cares ? Im no scientist or even a certified dietician (although I do PLAY one on the internet sometimes )

I was going to mention it was Livestrong lol. But read the part you highlighted. It does not say protein can be converted to glucose and stored as fat. It does say that when blood glucose levels are low the body can make more glucose from stored protein or fat.

 

[Docd187123]

I think timing your carbs make a big difference as far as body composition goes. I tried multiple ways of eating throughout the years and at least for me I can eat way more carbs if I eat the post workout and a few hours after. Almost a carb back loading type. Eating this way I'm able to get lean fast or gain without getting fat. I tried carbs for breakfast and before workout only for a week and looked like shit and lost nothing and looked soft. That was on 100g total carbs daily. If I eat them post workout I can eat 300g and still get lean. And I look lean and vascular. I guess it depends.

What you noticed is most likely placebo. The timing of carbs makes no difference for body composition.

 

[ErikR]

What you noticed is most likely placebo. The timing of carbs makes no difference for body composition.

Do you think those same rules apply to a person with insulin resistance?

 

[ErikR]

Not trying to be a smart ass. I'm curious on your view.

 

[Docd187123]

Do you think those same rules apply to a person with insulin resistance?

Yes