Prop, tren, and DMZ 3.0

[Whoremoans]

Alright guys well I've started this cycle! Currently 8 days in consisting of:
50mg Prop ED
75mg tren A ED
3 pills super DMZ 3.0 ED
.25mg Adex ED

I'm also taking fish oil, milk thistle, B6, and a multivitamin, along with ungodly amounts of food and water.

The tren and prop I'm on currently were samples from Xeno (yes I know I shouldn't have accepted samples) that I got a few months back. So far I have noticed my attitude change a little bit. Nothing drastic. Trouble staying asleep, and odd dreams. Vascularity has improved and I'm noticing some scale weight which I attribute to the oral. Once I finish up the Xeno prop and tren I will be switching to DYEL prop and comp TH conversion tren A, so that will be a decent comparison of quality for the SAMPLE Xeno gear.

Once again guys, I know now I should've never accepted a free sample from a source. I own up to my mistake and it won't be happening again. With that being said, I'm a man of my word so I am going to be logging my experience with the gear. It would be pretty shitty of me to accept the offer and then not hold up my end of the bargain. Everyone just take my results for what they are worth though. The sample I reicieved may or may not reflect the quality of the rest of Xeno gear. You be the judge, but so far from what I can tell the stuff is decent.

 

[Skull]

Ehh people fuck up an that's just the way it is. We are after all only human man an nobody's perfect. Atleast you were honest enough to man up to it an not hide from it. With that being said lets get to fuckin killin it then!!! Subbed

 

[jaymaximus]

I'm in. I did a prop dmz run before. I was happy with it. Good luck brother.

 

[Whoremoans]

Thanks brothers. I gotta say I am excited for this cycle. This is my first time using tren and I can already tell that I'm going to love it. So far it seems like I'm tolerating the sides pretty well but it's only day 8 so we'll see how things go. The aggression is definitely rising though Time to fucking KILL IT.

 

[Whoremoans]

Here's a picture of where I'm at.
6'0"
190ish
No idea what my body fat percentage is.

I've got a long way to go and a lot of weight to add but I'm ready to bring my meso brothers along on my journey!

Chest day tomorrow!

 

[Seven]

Subb'd

How long is your cycle? What's your goals for this cycle?

 

[Whoremoans]

I'm probably going to run the cycle for about 12 weeks but I'm also considering upping the UGL tren to 100mg so that would shorten it a bit. I'm not yet bold enough to try running the Comp TH conversion that high so I'll probably keep that at 50-60mg whenever I start it. My goals for this cycle are to gain some serious size, add some weight to my PR lifts, and if possible I wouldn't mind dropping a bit of body fat, but my main concern is still building mass. I always hear about how tren is the king of recomp though so we'll see what happens

 

[Wunderpus]

Never used DMZ, don't really know shit about it. Wishing you a good cycle.

Curious on why a prohormone over dbol, tbol or another oral?

 

[Whoremoans]

Never used DMZ, don't really know shit about it. Wishing you a good cycle.

Curious on why a prohormone over dbol, tbol or another oral?

Thanks for the good wishes brother. But honestly I already had it so it's just a bit of an experiment. Something to change up what you normally see around here also. I firmly believe that most designer steroids are pretty damn potent when you run them correctly with a test base. Most people who used PHs took them without any sort of test base so naturally results generally weren't all they could be but when used right they can be pretty powerful drugs. DMZ 3.0 contains 10mg dimethazine, 10mg methylstenbolone, and 10mg alpha 1. So it's a triple stack of designer orals, and I'm taking 30mg of each daily.

 

[Wunderpus]

Interesting, it makes sense to some degree.

Looks like it's basically superdrol, methyl test and I donno what Alpha 1 is?

 

[jaymaximus]

Never used DMZ, don't really know shit about it. Wishing you a good cycle.

Curious on why a prohormone over dbol, tbol or another oral?

You gotta kinda change your way of thinking when it comes to dmz and some of these DS. As I understand it, PHs were orals that converted once inside you from one compound to another. Like halodrol converted to turnibol i believe (my googles not working where im at so i cant verify). But lots of these DS are actually just regular oral steroids. They were just made and marketed to get around the legal speak and be sold.
DMZ, MSTEN, and Epistane actually work really well. Like any oral they work much better with a good test base. And like any oral theyre pretty liver toxic.
Having said that, Ive used dmz (the regular one) a few times and I think its awesome. Put on great size and strength. I bet if more people tried them they would love them, but theres a stigma that goes along with them and the "PH".

 

[Whoremoans]

Interesting, it makes sense to some degree.

Looks like it's basically superdrol, methyl test and I donno what Alpha 1 is?

Basically. Dimethazine is a slight alteration of superdrol, methylstenbolone I believe is what you get when you cross M1T and superdrol, and I think alpha 1 is a 1-testosterone precursor.

 

[Wunderpus]

You gotta kinda change your way of thinking when it comes to dmz and some of these DS. As I understand it, PHs were orals that converted once inside you from one compound to another. Like halodrol converted to turnibol i believe (my googles not working where im at so i cant verify). But lots of these DS are actually just regular oral steroids. They were just made and marketed to get around the legal speak and be sold.
DMZ, MSTEN, and Epistane actually work really well. Like any oral they work much better with a good test base. And like any oral theyre pretty liver toxic.
Having said that, Ive used dmz (the regular one) a few times and I think its awesome. Put on great size and strength. I bet if more people tried them they would love them, but theres a stigma that goes along with them and the "PH".

Interesting. I don't know much about them, honestly. I don't really take orals, so I've never considered PH's (not in the last 5 years at least). Years back I ran Trimethyl, Spawn and something called GSE Monster. They were VERY effective, but I lost almost all that I gained. This was before using a good test base, of course.

 

[jaymaximus]

Interesting. I don't know much about them, honestly. I don't really take orals, so I've never considered PH's (not in the last 5 years at least). Years back I ran Trimethyl, Spawn and something called GSE Monster. They were VERY effective, but I lost almost all that I gained. This was before using a good test base, of course.

That changes everything. Before I got the nerve to pin I did a few DS/PH cycles. Got great results, but horrible sides. Nothing will ever beat good ol test. But used right they can be icing on the cake. On the plus, until recently they were never faked. Unlike a lot of AAS orals, you knew exactly what you were getting.

 

[Whoremoans]

Here was breakfast for moans today. Good ole steak and egg/meat and potatoes. Two free range eggs, two pieces of toast, fried potatoes, cube steak, a banana, and some almond milk.

 

[jaymaximus]

Hows that almond milk? Is it any better nutrion wise than regular? I tried the almond butter, but switched back to regular pb, wasnt feeling it too much.

 

[Wunderpus]

Hows that almond milk? Is it any better nutrion wise than regular? I tried the almond butter, but switched back to regular pb, wasnt feeling it too much.

I fucking love almond milk, cashew milk is good too. It mixes great in shakes, too.

WM- Why so high on the carbs in the morning? That'd lay me out!

 

[Whoremoans]

Hows that almond milk? Is it any better nutrion wise than regular? I tried the almond butter, but switched back to regular pb, wasnt feeling it too much.

I love almond milk personally. 50% more calcium than dairy milk, plus it has zero saturated fat and cholesterol. Doesn't have quite as much protein though.

 

[Whoremoans]

I fucking love almond milk, cashew milk is good too. It mixes great in shakes, too.

WM- Why so high on the carbs in the morning? That'd lay me out!

Lay you out how, like have you stuffed/bloated? Lol. Idk man I've always done high carb breakfasts, gives me the energy for the day, plus I feel like if you eat a ton for your first meal of the day you tend to be able to tolerate larger amounts of food throughout the day.

 

[Wunderpus]

They tire me out if I eat a bunch, for some reason.

Here was my breakfast today-

5 whole eggs + 3/4 cup of egg whites
1 scoop whey (right when I woke up, quick digesting, gets the ball rolling) + almond milk

Sometimes steak or bacon. Sort of depends on how hungry I am, or bloated (if I am, no bacon).