Meso Community Fall/Winter '16 Bulk

[Mr.B66]

Im in for sure as this is gonna be very interesting and informative to the newer guys especially and some of us old dogs as well.
Ill be doing my favorite cycle for bulk and strength. Test,deca and EQ. Thinking about adding some mast cause i do really like it even though i dont really think of it as a bulking agent. Also I continue to have a tight diet even though im on bulk cause putting on fat is not an option for me. I like to be lean at all times. So if i put on 10-15lbs im good with that cause its lean mass.

 

[jJjburton]

Test, EQ, primo and masteron was probably the best cycle I've ever run.... The kitchen sink cycle, kind of.

I am going to PROBABLY run test @2G, EQ@1G, Deca @800mgs and potentially dbol for the first 4 weeks.

I wish scientists would invent new steroids for us instead of wasting their time on curing AIDS or cancer... Selfish.

Did you gain muscle from EQ/Primp/Mast??? or just cut? I am looking to gain muscle not extreme bulk. I am going to be eating, as I would to bulk.

I feel that deca is too much of a bulking compound for a primo/Mast cycle. Thats why EQ does sound like a great choice. I litterally just used EQ for 25 weeks. I ended 2 weeks ago. I feel august would be to soon for it again. What are your thoughts? I ended Deca 10 weeks ago. So I feel the same as deca, with With EQ. I am def doing Masteron/Primo.

Is proviron good for on cycle? or better for TRT/Cruise/Bridge. I think I am using it post cycle.

I would like to use EQ, but I feel 4 months between using the same compound is too soon. ANY THOUGHTS??? I really need advice for this.

Definate
Turinabolos- 5 weeks to start cycle, taper up 30,40,50. (Muscle Mass/no aromtization)
Masteron prop- 12 weeks 400-500 mg (muscle hardness/muscle gain/less fat)
Primo enth- 15weeks 400-500 mg (less fat/muscle gain/muscle hardness)
Test Enth 15 weeks 500-700 mg (muscle gain, aromtization)
Maybe
Eq 600mg - 20 weeks from start of cycle (lean muscle gain/endurance) If waiting 4 months after last use, allows full effect of compound, and it won't dull EQ's properties.
5 weeks before cycle ends
Anavar 5-10 weeks 30,40, 50 mg taper up (muscle hardness/Fat loss)
Post cycle/Cruise
Proviron- take when I have 5 weeks of anavar 5-15weeks (not sure legnth yet) 20,30,40,50 for TRT/Cruise/Bridge.

I don't want to use tren. I tryed it for 3 weeks. To see what to expect. I am going to wait at least til my 5 cycle or more.

HGH would be perfect for this. I will be doing HGH, when I have money. 6-10 cycles away.


I CANNOT WAIT.

 

[jJjburton]

Not ruining the point! Inevitably someone will read these posts in the future and take something from them. Why not kickstart that, for those of us who are starting after yourself?

No one really cares WHEN you start, it's about the info you provide to help us as a community together. The novelty of starting together is fun and all, but I'm sure many will start after I do.

But Not before!! that would be dick.

Also this is making me wait a month or two longer to cycle, or else I will be doing my cycle in may lol. Which is only a 12 weeks TRT/Cruise, after a 26 weeks cycle or so.

 

[OdieM]

Lol this made me laugh. A fall/winter bulk log that was created in the middle of Spring Break

 

[Mr.B66]

Lol this made me laugh. A fall/winter bulk log that was created in the middle of Spring Break

Ummmm.. So your in[emoji4]

 

[Wunderpus]

Lol this made me laugh. A fall/winter bulk log that was created in the middle of Spring Break

Were planners

I didn't think it made sense to continue to discuss it in my log....

 

[OdieM]

Ummmm.. So your in

I typed out 3 different responses and they all made me sound like a dick. Lol I'm very sick and cranky sorry. To put it politely, no. Every one wants to hit 250 or just gain size. Been there done that and I'm tired of the madness of spending the other half the year working my ass off to lose that size and get back to my old self. In other words I'm done bulking for a while. If I put on gains it will be very slow and lean gains. I went from 249 to 215 in a few months and I had to work to fucking hard to get where I am now. It would be pure madness to put myself through that again. There's a few other reasons as well but that answer is the only one that makes me not sound like a dick

 

[Wunderpus]

I typed out 3 different responses and they all made me sound like a dick. Lol I'm very sick and cranky sorry. To put it politely, no. Every one wants to hit 250 or just gain size. Been there done that and I'm tired of the madness of spending the other half the year working my ass off to lose that size and get back to my old self. In other words I'm done bulking for a while. If I put on gains it will be very slow and lean gains. I went from 249 to 215 in a few months and I had to work to fucking hard to get where I am now. It would be pure madness to put myself through that again. There's a few other reasons as well but that answer is the only one that makes me not sound like a dick

Odie, you can be a dick or not I still got love for you!

And I feel you on this all...! I hit 260 this year, and I'm fucking dying to cut up.... But it's working and I am seeing changes daily! I'm addicted to the constant evolution, but I totally have been where you are too.... The grass is always greener for me brother... When I'm cut I wanna get huge, when I'm huge I wanna get cut.... Such is our life.

 

[OdieM]

If you say so. I could throw a few pics up of me at different sizes but everyone's already seen them. Sure I looked good with my shirt on when I'm 30 lbs heavier then usual but I was born to be on water which requires my shirt to be off 8 months out of the year where I live. Truth of the matter is that when I'm 215-220 I look bigger and better then I did at 249. Also I only broke my PRs by 20 lbs on most lifts while having all that extra size. Not to mention my joints hurt like hell being that big. Nah I'm done bulking for a while. Like I mentioned from now on it will be slow and lean gains. Which is best for me since I have a show coming up.

Also I guess members didn't get the memo cause it looks like everyone is just posting their random logs in your log.

 

[Wunderpus]

If you say so. I could throw a few pics up of me at different sizes but everyone's already seen them. Sure I looked good with my shirt on when I'm 30 lbs heavier then usual but I was born to be on water which requires my shirt to be off 8 months out of the year where I live. Truth of the matter is that when I'm 215-220 I look bigger and better then I did at 249. Also I only broke my PRs by 20 lbs on most lifts while having all that extra size. Not to mention my joints hurt like hell being that big. Nah I'm done bulking for a while. Like I mentioned from now on it will be slow and lean gains. Which is best for me since I have a show coming up.

Also I guess members didn't get the memo cause it looks like everyone is just posting their random logs in your log.

They're welcome to, lol. I feel ya, I was so big I got stuck in my bathtub... That was how I knew it was time to cut lol

 

[Mr.B66]

If you say so. I could throw a few pics up of me at different sizes but everyone's already seen them. Sure I looked good with my shirt on when I'm 30 lbs heavier then usual but I was born to be on water which requires my shirt to be off 8 months out of the year where I live. Truth of the matter is that when I'm 215-220 I look bigger and better then I did at 249. Also I only broke my PRs by 20 lbs on most lifts while having all that extra size. Not to mention my joints hurt like hell being that big. Nah I'm done bulking for a while. Like I mentioned from now on it will be slow and lean gains. Which is best for me since I have a show coming up.

Also I guess members didn't get the memo cause it looks like everyone is just posting their random logs in your log.

100% agree with you. For me this is more just a cycle , like i said a few posts back " getting fat is not an option for me" so if i put on 10lbs or even 5lbs for that matter, i only consider it a success if its lean muscle, otherwise i just put on fat and i dont need to cycle for that, i could just eat like shit.
I rather be 190 vascular, hard and have very noticeable muscle separation and abs than be 220 and fat.
No offense to anybody that doesnt think this way, its personal preference.

 

[Wunderpus]

100% agree with you. For me this is more just a cycle , like i said a few posts back " getting fat is not an option for me" so if i put on 10lbs or even 5lbs for that matter, i only consider it a success if its lean muscle, otherwise i just put on fat and i dont need to cycle for that, i could just eat like shit.
I rather be 190 vascular, hard and have very noticeable muscle separation and abs than be 220 and fat.
No offense to anybody that doesnt think this way, its personal preference.

I can assure you, personally, I am not intending to get fat

This won't be some gross dirty bulk where I look like a beach ball....

 

[Mr.B66]

I can assure you, personally, I am not intending to get fat

This won't be some gross dirty bulk where I look like a beach ball....

I certainly wasn't implying that brother, i was just responding to Odies thoughts on bulking.
You'll always be ripped in my eyes big boy[emoji6]

 

[jJjburton]

I can assure you, personally, I am not intending to get fat

This won't be some gross dirty bulk where I look like a beach ball....

This is why I am curios. About what bulking consists of? does a bulk still let someone look vascular/muscle striation/hard six pack, with still a six pack? My bulk did using

But some others get big and fat at 260lbs. and it is dumb. But I feel like a cut with other compounds. It is better to use other compounds that slowly lean you body to as mass, always at 10 percent bf, gain muscles by taro measure. i eat the same s bulking as cutting/lean muscle.



It is more healthy and is better

 

[Melly Mel from hell]

I'm sure I'll be runnin somethin. I'm in for whatever the hell I happen to be fuckin around with at the time. I'll make sure it's a big one so I don't look like a pussy next to wonder's cycle. You big fuckin juice monster mother fucker.

 

[Melly Mel from hell]

By the way for those that don't know. 7 and I are trying to heal a couple injuries and are doing a co-log using TB500. Check it out if you're interested.

 

[jJjburton]

If you say so. I could throw a few pics up of me at different sizes but everyone's already seen them. Sure I looked good with my shirt on when I'm 30 lbs heavier then usual but I was born to be on water which requires my shirt to be off 8 months out of the year where I live. Truth of the matter is that when I'm 215-220 I look bigger and better then I did at 249. Also I only broke my PRs by 20 lbs on most lifts while having all that extra size. Not to mention my joints hurt like hell being that big. Nah I'm done bulking for a while. Like I mentioned from now on it will be slow and lean gains. Which is best for me since I have a show coming up.

Also I guess members didn't get the memo cause it looks like everyone is just posting their random logs in your log.

I had a genuine question. I was just going to either run one compound or other. I wanted some advice that would b best.
I needed to know about length of time one is suppose to wait from taking one compound and then taking the same one later on. i.e E Eq time=Eq3x time taken(Time for compound to clean, and be maximum effectiveness.
Also if you run on compound mast for 8 weeks, can you then run, then after the compound clears in approxx, 1 weeks. Or is it better to wait 32 weeks. to even run Tre

I would like an answer please this is going to contribute hugely try circle

 

[DOMS4DAYS]

I had a genuine question. I was just going to either run one compound or other. I wanted some advice that would b best.
I needed to know about length of time one is suppose to wait from taking one compound and then taking the same one later on. i.e E Eq time=Eq3x time taken(Time for compound to clean, and be maximum effectiveness.
Also if you run on compound mast for 8 weeks, can you then run, then after the compound clears in approxx, 1 weeks. Or is it better to wait 32 weeks. to even run Tre

I would like an answer please this is going to contribute hugely try circle

Dude you are way overthinking things. You will just have to experiment for yourself and see what works for your body. I don't see why you would have to wait but maybe I'm not understanding the question.

 

[OdieM]

I'm sure I'll be runnin somethin. I'm in for whatever the hell I happen to be fuckin around with at the time. I'll make sure it's a big one so I don't look like a pussy next to wonder's cycle. You big fuckin juice monster mother fucker.

I had a feeling that's where this log was going. No need to run all that gear. You've seen enough logs here to see what worked for members and none of them were big cycles. Best one that comes to mind was JBs transformation. It was insane to watch that log and he didn't need Gh or insulin and was running well under 2 grams worth of oils. Can't remember his exact doses cause it was so long ago. Also look at Mands. He's probably the biggest member on this board and has more knowledge then anyone. I believe his cycles are small as well. I know he runs his tren under 500mg a week.

 

[Melly Mel from hell]

I had a feeling that's where this log was going. No need to run all that gear. You've seen enough logs here to see what worked for members and none of them were big cycles. Best one that comes to mind was JBs transformation. It was insane to watch that log and he didn't need Gh or insulin and was running well under 2 grams worth of oils. Can't remember his exact doses cause it was so long ago. Also look at Mands. He's probably the biggest member on this board and has more knowledge then anyone. I believe his cycles are small as well. I know he runs his tren under 500mg a week.

lol. Actually I already have my next cycle ready to go. 600mg Test, 600mg Deca, & Adrol inject.
I was just being funny. I'm not into the whole Insulin, T3/T4, HGH, etc.. stuff for myself. I like AAS but I don't want to run all those extra bits. I'm over 50 and I've never run any of that other stuff and I don't feel comfortable doing it now. I appreciate your looking out.