Meso Community Fall/Winter '16 Bulk

[ebkallday]

I had a feeling that's where this log was going. No need to run all that gear. You've seen enough logs here to see what worked for members and none of them were big cycles. Best one that comes to mind was JBs transformation. It was insane to watch that log and he didn't need Gh or insulin and was running well under 2 grams worth of oils. Can't remember his exact doses cause it was so long ago. Also look at Mands. He's probably the biggest member on this board and has more knowledge then anyone. I believe his cycles are small as well. I know he runs his tren under 500mg a week.

I'm running a 10 week cycle right now before the summer (tren time). 500mg Test E, 500mg Npp. My diet is working with my carb/no carb timing. Muscle memory really means a lot. For the fellas who are running several compounds at grams a piece, just keep a close eye on your health and make sure you cycle off long enough to allow your body to get normal blood readings. Stay safe guys!

 

[jJjburton]

Dude you are way overthinking things. You will just have to experiment for yourself and see what works for your body. I don't see why you would have to wait but maybe I'm not understanding the question.

I understand. I likeo

I can assure you, personally, I am not intending to get fat

This won't be some gross dirty bulk where I look like a beach ball....

Ok So i got ny answer.

I will be doing PRIMO,MAST,and EQ. Hell yea wunder.

What did you get out of this cycle? Thanks for the EQ advice that is a great compound.

 

[Wunderpus]

I understand. I likeo


Ok So i got ny answer.

I will be doing PRIMO,MAST,and EQ. Hell yea wunder.

What did you get out of this cycle? Thanks for the EQ advice that is a great compound.

That's a very aesthetics orientated cycles. You won't gain a TON of size, but you will harden up and if your diets in check, lean up too. I would still run AT LEAST 200mg's test as a base....

 

[OdieM]

I understand. I likeo


Ok So i got ny answer.

I will be doing PRIMO,MAST,and EQ. Hell yea wunder.

What did you get out of this cycle? Thanks for the EQ advice that is a great compound.

Do you mind laying out your cycle for us? Why no Test? Test is king. Do you have hair on your head that you are fond of? I ask this because mast and primo are the worst at making your hair fall out and being as thats all your running it could be bad for your appearance and I believe that's why your taking the drugs correct?

 

[jJjburton]

That's a very aesthetics orientated cycles. You won't gain a TON of size, but you will harden up and if your diets in check, lean up too. I would still run AT LEAST 200mg's test as a base....

I was thinking about running 300 mg and trying a low dose test. Gain off other compounds. Or just run 600 mg test like usual. Thanks though.

I think i will add 10-20 pounds of muscle( no water). Weighing 210, But look like I am 230, because of being shreded, with no water.

I am excited for this homie!!!

 

[jJjburton]

Do you mind laying out your cycle for us? Why no Test? Test is king. Do you have hair on your head that you are fond of? I ask this because mast and primo are the worst at making your hair fall out and being as thats all your running it could be bad for your appearance and I believe that's why your taking the drugs correct?

My family has hair, even old people. I def like my hair. I am a sexy fuck,Already. This muscle is just a bonus.LOLLOL. Will it grow back if it thins, after cycle?

Definate All doses will start at lower dose and taper up if can tolerate
Turinabolos- 5 weeks , taper up 30-50. (Muscle Mass/no aromtization)
Masteron prop- 12 weeks 300-500 (muscle hardness,muscle gain,less fat/ no aroma)
Primo enth- 15weeks 300-500 mg (less fat,muscle gain,muscle hardness/lil aroma)
Test Enth 15 weeks 300-700 mg (muscle gain, aromtization/have AI on hand)
Equipose- 18 weeks 600mg (lean muscle gain/endurance/little aroma)

End of cycle 5 weeks left of cycle
anavar 5-10 weeks 30,40, 50 mg taper up (muscle hardness/fat loss)

Post cycle/Cruise
Proviron- 20,30,40,50 for TRT/Cruise/Bridge.

 

[jJjburton]

Do you mind laying out your cycle for us? Why no Test? Test is king. Do you have hair on your head that you are fond of? I ask this because mast and primo are the worst at making your hair fall out and being as thats all your running it could be bad for your appearance and I believe that's why your taking the drugs correct?

I was debating switching Tunribolo with NPP. Run NPP for 8 weeks, at 400 mg a week. Then run the Mast after NPP is done, for 8 weeks. I just feel like the NPP would add to much water. Switching to NPP wouldn't gain me a siginificantly more amount of weight than what I have planned already. What do you think?

 

[OdieM]

My family has hair, even old people. I def like my hair. I am a sexy fuck,Already. This muscle is just a bonus.LOLLOL. Will it grow back if it thins, after cycle?

Definate All doses will start at lower dose and taper up if can tolerate
Turinabolos- 5 weeks , taper up 30-50. (Muscle Mass/no aromtization)
Masteron prop- 12 weeks 300-500 (muscle hardness,muscle gain,less fat/ no aroma)
Primo enth- 15weeks 300-500 mg (less fat,muscle gain,muscle hardness/lil aroma)
Test Enth 15 weeks 300-700 mg (muscle gain, aromtization/have AI on hand)
Equipose- 18 weeks 600mg (lean muscle gain/endurance/little aroma)

End of cycle 5 weeks left of cycle
anavar 5-10 weeks 30,40, 50 mg taper up (muscle hardness/fat loss)

Post cycle/Cruise
Proviron- 20,30,40,50 for TRT/Cruise/Bridge.

Umm... Ok wow. Lol well thanks for laying it out. My hair thins out on Mast but it comes back cause I know when to drop the mast. We are all different. A simple Google search and you could find dozens of stories where it didn't grow back. I'm actually running a test,tren and mast cycle now. Your running yours for longer then I believe I seen anyone run it. Your gonna feel very toxic by week 8 . Especially with the EQ. I think your fine though cause your Taking a good dose of it IMO and not going over board like most tend to with it. You've got a pretty big gap in your test dosage. I've found when I'm cutting that if I keep my test lower then the other compounds I'm running that it really makes them shine. Just be smart and if you see your hair starting to fall out in the shower or when you brush it at lest drop the primo. It does more harm then good anyways and most are very disappointed by the lack of results it gives. Others love it though. It's one of the more expensive aas and honestly I don't care for it. Also becareful with 2 orals. Honestly I think your going way over board here but to each his own I guess.

 

[Wunderpus]

Umm... Ok wow. Lol well thanks for laying it out. My hair thins out on Mast but it comes back cause I know when to drop the mast. We are all different. A simple Google search and you could find dozens of stories where it didn't grow back. I'm actually running a test,tren and mast cycle now. Your running yours for longer then I believe I seen anyone run it. Your gonna feel very toxic by week 8 . Especially with the EQ. I think your fine though cause your Taking a good dose of it IMO and not going over board like most tend to with it. You've got a pretty big gap in your test dosage. I've found when I'm cutting that if I keep my test lower then the other compounds I'm running that it really makes them shine. Just be smart and if you see your hair starting to fall out in the shower or when you brush it at lest drop the primo. It does more harm then good anyways and most are very disappointed by the lack of results it gives. Others love it though. It's ine of the more expensive aas and honestly I don't care for it. Also the becareful with 2 orals. Honestly I think your going way over board here but to each his own I guess.

What do you think will make him feel toxic by week 8? If his hairline is fine, this isn't that harsh of a cycle. The doubling up of orals is the only thing I'm not in love with.

 

[OdieM]

The EQ alone will make him feel toxic and he will need to donate blood for sure. It is the worst at elevating your BP and crit is it not?

 

[Wunderpus]

The EQ alone will make him feel toxic and he will need to donate blood for sure. It is the worst at elevating your BP and crit is it not?

I believe it is. I've never really felt toxic on EQ before, I find EQ to be one of the mildest AAS. If you have an elevated RBC, it is probably best to donate blood, yep! Or, just drain yourself

 

[Wunderpus]

The EQ alone will make him feel toxic and he will need to donate blood for sure. It is the worst at elevating your BP and crit is it not?

BP, definitely never had an issue with that one on EQ. Tren and drol were by far the worst for me.

 

[jJjburton]

Umm... Ok wow. Lol well thanks for laying it out. My hair thins out on Mast but it comes back cause I know when to drop the mast. We are all different. A simple Google search and you could find dozens of stories where it didn't grow back. I'm actually running a test,tren and mast cycle now. Your running yours for longer then I believe I seen anyone run it. Your gonna feel very toxic by week 8 . Especially with the EQ. I think your fine though cause your Taking a good dose of it IMO and not going over board like most tend to with it. You've got a pretty big gap in your test dosage. I've found when I'm cutting that if I keep my test lower then the other compounds I'm running that it really makes them shine. Just be smart and if you see your hair starting to fall out in the shower or when you brush it at lest drop the primo. It does more harm then good anyways and most are very disappointed by the lack of results it gives. Others love it though. It's one of the more expensive aas and honestly I don't care for it. Also becareful with 2 orals. Honestly I think your going way over board here but to each his own I guess.

I feel like I will gain weight even though it is a "cut". I am not going to eat in a deficit. I am going to eat 500-1000 cals more then maintenence. I think I will gain muscle, with little water retention, and keep most of it. Having a low BF.

 

[jJjburton]

BP, definitely never had an issue with that one on EQ. Tren and drol were by far the worst for me.

My bp was 140-80 on eq, 1 week after I stopped it was 120/70. I have bloods coming to see my hemocrit from a 20 week cycle of eq. So that will determine some more things.

Orals do kill my liver enzymes. So I am not sure with the anavar. I will be getting bloods done t determine whtat I should do.

 

[OdieM]

I believe it is. I've never really felt toxic on EQ before, I find EQ to be one of the mildest AAS. If you have an elevated RBC, it is probably best to donate blood, yep! Or, just drain yourself

Agreed and being as he's running it at 600mg and not front loading he may never feel toxic like it makes me feel. I usually run it around 800mg but I frontload double that the first week.

 

[OdieM]

BP, definitely never had an issue with that one on EQ. Tren and drol were by far the worst for me.

Oh it definitely raises mine and many others here. I bought 5 jugs ( 100mls ) of it for this cycle but decided against it cause my doc is already worried about my BP being slightly high.

 

[jJjburton]

Oh it definitely raises mine and many others here. I bought 5 jugs ( 100mls ) of it for this cycle but decided against it cause my doc is already worried about my BP being slightly high.

mine raised pretty bad. So I do have to be careful. 140/80. Then 1 weeks when I got off it was 120/70.

 

[Wunderpus]

Oh it definitely raises mine and many others here. I bought 5 jugs ( 100mls ) of it for this cycle but decided against it cause my doc is already worried about my BP being slightly high.

Wow! It's funny how variable this shit is. Never once had an issue on EQ... Drol and tren, fuck yeah.

 

[OdieM]

Wow! It's funny how variable this shit is. Never once had an issue on EQ... Drol and tren, fuck yeah.

We're all different. Shit just test at a dose over 500mg raises my BP after a few weeks. My doc prescribed me a low dose BP med. my BP is fine when I'm off everything so I only take it while on cycle. This is the first cycle I've actually taken it and so far so good. I bought a monitor and check it daily. I'm on tren so being as my BP is in check with the meds I'm very happy

 

[Wunderpus]

We're all different. Shit just test at a dose over 500mg raises my BP after a few weeks. My doc prescribed me a low dose BP med. my BP is fine when I'm off everything so I only take it while on cycle. This is the first cycle I've actually taken it and so far so good. I bought a monitor and check it daily. I'm on tren so being as my BP is in check with the meds I'm very happy

Good to hear. Nice to know you're being healthy and smart about it all!