keith1569
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If you chexk some threads on IM and ProM they have gh testa done
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Massaholic
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Supplier told me basically the same thing. He said that other places buy their stuff and relabel. I should have test results back by Mon or Tues. My Hyge serial numbers check out but have heard none have been testing well so I am getting my labs checked today. I asked my guy about buying other brands and he was unable to get rips. Said they are not taking new customers and even he cant get any. Not sure if that is true or not. Also, asked about Jins but he said even in China they have to go to a doctor and the doctor has to prescribe it and said that they are closely watching that company right now. He said that he could get me some but did not think they were legit.
Buyer beware!
shamrockbear1
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Yes even if the numbers check out just go to the official sites it will show you how to pick out the fibers and and what they should look like. The site will even have a copy of the label when you run the numbers and it will show you where the fibers are should be a actual photocopy of the label on your box so I would say most 90% are copies with genetics stuff.
There are only 2 tried and true sources that folks should use...if they are able...The Provider and HK. They've been the guys that have been through times like these...when there is garbage going around. f you can become a client, you're golden.
What about TP? I thought he was good as well! And what about mexord?
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Sgt. Hartman
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Who says the provider hasn't had any complaints, pm where he's a sponsor? I've run several hundred iu of his rips and most of them are garbage. I wouldn't pay a penny per iu to run rips again.
All the generic GH from China is coming from the same place. I don't care what the label says or what color the top is, it's garbage. These "sources" can give you the same GH with a rip label, hyge label, elite label, etc. or no label with a different colored top. It all came from the same place and it's not real GH. The equipment needed to make real GH costs tens of millions of dollars, if someone were going to invest that kind of coin in a business venture they'd seek FDA approval and get paid $10 an iu for it like Eli Lilly does. Surely no one really believes that there's multiple legit generic GH labs in China?
Yep Sgt!
keith1569
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Sgt. Hartman
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I'd only run GH that's produced in a licensed lab. I'll never run generics again. From the horror stories of the chemicals that they put in the generics that have caused many people major health problems to just wasting money, generics aren't worth it. I've wasted plenty of money on bunk GH but aside from that, if it wasn't real GH then wtf was I injecting into my body everyday?
Exactly what I've also stated previously.
Licensed Chinese GH manufacturing products include; Hygetropin. Anosome, Fitropin, and Jintropin (license recently revoked see Millards post)
There are NOOOOOOO LICENSED GENERIC manufactures anywhere worldwide to my knowledge because the PATENT and license is issued for not only the EXACT rDNA technology used by a given producer but also it's country of origin.
GH is extremely expensive to make and why someone whose spent years and MILLIONS of dollars developing their product legally would dump a legitimate product on the black market, often at supposed reduced rates, seems counter intuitive from a business perspective.
Apparently Jintropin turned a blind eye to ongoing "illegal" activity at their plant and did exactly that...... the US with all their influences worldwide compelled Chinese authorities to shut it down, which they did.
Consequently since no legitimate GENERIC GH manufacture exists the Riptropin, Kigtropin, Blue-Red top etc will be junk at least 99% of the time.
AGAIN BUYER BEWARE!
Licensed Chinese GH manufacturing products include; Hygetropin. Anosome, Fitropin, and Jintropin (license recently revoked see Millards post)
There are NOOOOOOO LICENSED GENERIC manufactures anywhere worldwide to my knowledge because the PATENT and license is issued for not only the EXACT rDNA technology used by a given producer but also it's country of origin.
GH is extremely expensive to make and why someone whose spent years and MILLIONS of dollars developing their product legally would dump a legitimate product on the black market, often at supposed reduced rates, seems counter intuitive from a business perspective.
Apparently Jintropin turned a blind eye to ongoing "illegal" activity at their plant and did exactly that...... the US with all their influences worldwide compelled Chinese authorities to shut it down, which they did.
Consequently since no legitimate GENERIC GH manufacture exists the Riptropin, Kigtropin, Blue-Red top etc will be junk at least 99% of the time.
AGAIN BUYER BEWARE!
mac111
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alot of this chinese crap is bigged up on forums by ppl who are aligned with suppliers selling scam rubbish.
could a back street terrorist build a nuclear warhead? no he couldnt, same as a back street chemist not being able to make HGH
could a back street terrorist build a nuclear warhead? no he couldnt, same as a back street chemist not being able to make HGH
Yep
JUMBO PATRON
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Not true. The person who is famous for carrying legit Thanktropin sells for a price that is a bit higher than that. I wish thanktropin was $125 a kit. Novotropin, on the other hand, is roughly that price.
JUMBO PATRON
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Good post. I find it very interesting since I am using chinese hgh and assuming it is legit Here is my question for you: If it isn't growth in these vials, how is it that the blood tests of serum HGH levels are coming back super high when people use these products and then have their blood tested a few hours later?
Well last time I looked the carrier I am thinking of who changes their damn site monthly it seems and carries SM and OX AAS has them for a pretty good price. Under $350 for sure.
mands
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That's what I would like to know. What is in them that can mimic that result?
Ever heard of "GH fragments", bc almost all ELISA quantitative assays are based upon the presence of the "terminal C" portion of the GH molecule.
False positive analyses can be circumvented by ensuring the lab utilizes LC/MS !
It's also very important those who are reporting such sublime results post a COPY of THE ORIGINAL LAB REPORT, rather than making a statement along the lines of; yea bro's "my GH test was 92ng/dl", as MANY are SHILLING for some UGL, IME
All that being said, for a variety of reasons, IGF testing is a MUCH more reliable means of evaluating UGL GH product "quality".
Finally the GOLD STANDARD remains an LC/MS (or even better an Amino Acid analysis) assay of the VIAL CONTENTS!
False positive analyses can be circumvented by ensuring the lab utilizes LC/MS !
It's also very important those who are reporting such sublime results post a COPY of THE ORIGINAL LAB REPORT, rather than making a statement along the lines of; yea bro's "my GH test was 92ng/dl", as MANY are SHILLING for some UGL, IME
All that being said, for a variety of reasons, IGF testing is a MUCH more reliable means of evaluating UGL GH product "quality".
Finally the GOLD STANDARD remains an LC/MS (or even better an Amino Acid analysis) assay of the VIAL CONTENTS!
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So it could just be the peptide?
^^^
It's a little more complicated than that, BUT YEP youre on the right track, as the fundamental portion begins with a GH peptide or polypeptide fragment.
Thereafter the active peptide fragment or the "C terminus" is attached.
The "C terminus" fragment is critical bc that's what ELISA tests are measuring as its arrangement is SPECIFIC for endogenously secreted GH.
In other words ELISA won't confuse other naturally occurring hormones or metabolic byproducts with our own GH.
UNLESS one pins an adultered GH frag which ELISA testing can NOT differentiate from what the pituitary secretes!
Hope that helps
It's a little more complicated than that, BUT YEP youre on the right track, as the fundamental portion begins with a GH peptide or polypeptide fragment.
Thereafter the active peptide fragment or the "C terminus" is attached.
The "C terminus" fragment is critical bc that's what ELISA tests are measuring as its arrangement is SPECIFIC for endogenously secreted GH.
In other words ELISA won't confuse other naturally occurring hormones or metabolic byproducts with our own GH.
UNLESS one pins an adultered GH frag which ELISA testing can NOT differentiate from what the pituitary secretes!
Hope that helps
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