Test E/Albuterol For Leaning Out and Keeping Muscle

[Alton Benjamin]

The first day the albuterol made me a little jittery (like a strong cup of coffee) but other than that I've had no side effects from it. I am gonna be at 15mg for the next two days and then will ramp to 20mg starting Monday..

 

[Alton Benjamin]

I've decided to go ahead and bump the albuterol up to 20mg starting today. I haven't had any adverse reaction and I'm a bigger guy so I'm confident that I can handle a bigger dose now. I've also dropped calories to 3200 for this week and will drop to 3000 on Monday.

 

[Alton Benjamin]

Pinned 300mg again on Monday. I pinned in left delt. I have not pinned in delts much but I am going to start using them a lot more. Since I haven't pinned delts much, I have been a bit sore at the injection site. I used a 23g 1.5in needle. Any thoughts on that size? I am now at 3000 cals per day and 24mg albuterol. I haven't started my arimidex yet. No sides thus far. I will continue to run albuterol until Monday and then take two weeks off of it. Next pin will be Monday and I will start the arimidex .5mg Every three days starting Monday. Workouts have been a touch weak because of the caloric deificit but I'm going to tighten up my carb cycling/loading and try to stay heavier on my compound lifts.

 

[Trapmonster]

Go for a 25g 1" or smaller on deltoid

 

[Alton Benjamin]

Aggression is starting to go through the roof and sex drive is ramping up!

 

[Alton Benjamin]

Pinned 300mg test e this morning. I used a 25g 5/8" needle this time. Definitely less pain on injection but the oil took a lot longer to flow out. Today will be the last of albuterol for 2 weeks (letting my beta receptors normalize). I started my AI today. I'm starting with .5mg arimidex every three days and gonna see how that goes. Bloods soon to follow. I dropped my cals to 2800 today and they will likely stay somewhere close to that for the remainder of the cycle (depending on adjustment as body fat drops). I am still weighing around 249-250 but I have very noticeable decrease in body fat. Muscles feel much harder too. Probably some water weight gain that the AI will hopefully squeeze off.

 

[Maktub]

Any estro sides ?
How the Albuterol feeling good ? No shaky ands like clen?
How do you
Split your
Dose?

 

[Alton Benjamin]

Any estro sides ?
How the Albuterol feeling good ? No shaky ands like clen?
How do you
Split your
Dose?

No estro sides at all! The test is kicking in hard though..in a good way. Muscles feel full and strong even on low calories (probably had a lot to do with carb cycling though). No shakes from the albuterol. Sometimes a little bit jittery but definitely manageable. It does make me a little bit warm but nothing the A/C can't fix. I usually split my dose anywhere from 5 - 7mg 4x a day.

 

[Juced]

i would rec adding ketofin with your albut run. keeps it effective for weeks and no need for breaks like 2 on 2 off sort of thing. and NO benydril wont work... not same thing.

 

[Alton Benjamin]

i would rec adding ketofin with your albut run. keeps it effective for weeks and no need for breaks like 2 on 2 off sort of thing. and NO benydril wont work... not same thing.

Yeah I know about it but I don't have any. If I had some on hand I would give it a shot but in a way I'm glad I don't because I want to take this cycle very slow and learn from it and give my body breaks when I feel it's necessary.

 

[Alton Benjamin]

So...I am at a crossroad of confusion. I have tapered off of carbs and calories in general gradually and I am down to 2800 cals a day. I'm hitting the right macros. No junk food. I am back up to 252. I look leaner..my arms look bigger and waist looks smaller. My TDEE should be somewhere around 3100 calories a day. I've been eating below that (and gradually lower each week) for the whole time I've been dieting. Diet has been running for five weeks and cycle has been running about three weeks. Could I be recomping?? I don't feel bloated or real watery..I started arimidex this week so we will see if anything comes off. I'm going to drop to 2700 cals starting Monday.

 

[sin]

So...I am at a crossroad of confusion. I have tapered off of carbs and calories in general gradually and I am down to 2800 cals a day. I'm hitting the right macros. No junk food. I am back up to 252. I look leaner..my arms look bigger and waist looks smaller. My TDEE should be somewhere around 3100 calories a day. I've been eating below that (and gradually lower each week) for the whole time I've been dieting. Diet has been running for five weeks and cycle has been running about three weeks. Could I be recomping?? I don't feel bloated or real watery..I started arimidex this week so we will see if anything comes off. I'm going to drop to 2700 cals starting Monday.

Three weeks into a cycle and your muscles could be storing more water than before as your test is just beginning to approach peak levels but there are other things to look at as well. Do you eat the same meals every day? Perhaps you had an increase in sodium recently? Maybe you drank more water one day? Do less exercise/sweating one day? Do you weigh yourself under the same conditions every day ie when you first wake up before you've taken anything in beverage or food wise? I doubt you are "recomping" ( I hate that word) as you didn't build 2 lbs of muscle since monday ( you said you weighed 249-250 just on monday correct?)

Also, there shouldn't be a need to drop calories every week. If you start off in a 500 calorie deficit it should be at least 3-4 weeks if not more before dropping any. I've been dieting 10 weeks and have only lowered calories by 100 once. You shouldn't be experiencing any significant downgrade in metabolism in such a short time. Did you actually take the time to find your TDEE by eating at 3500 calories for a period of 1 to 2 weeks to make sure that was your maintenance levels? Seems low to me, even starting at 17% bodyfat ( unless you've underestimated your bodyfat levels)

 

[Alton Benjamin]

Thanks for the reply. I really do think it's water. Could very well be a mix of higher sodium and aromatization. I know there's literally no scientific way I could have put on muscle. Yes I did figure out my TDEE. I actually played around with it for about 4 weeks before starting. The only reason I dropped calories off like that is because in the past, I have changed diet too quickly and gotten burnt out and weak from it. I wanted to experiment with gradually lower to about 15% below maintenance. So I suppose my real answers will start this next week when I am actually eating around 500 below maintenance.

 

[Bone Gristle]

i would rec adding ketofin with your albut run. keeps it effective for weeks and no need for breaks like 2 on 2 off sort of thing. and NO benydril wont work... not same thing.

Benadryl does work. Ketofin is preferred but if it's not available benadryl is the next best thing.

 

[KillaBig]

The blunt draw needle and cap were still attached and even still I only filled the cup of water about 3/4 full of the length of the syringe so no water touched anywhere near the opening.Since you guys are concerned and trying to help, I suppose it would be best to use a heating pad from now on though. Also @KillaBig..I got mine domestic and had no problems with delays or anything. Are you talking about Frank's site or Darius? I don't think Darius carries Nolva.

I was looking at the domestic Baterosis site. I'll have to check out the other one.

 

[Alton Benjamin]

So I'm up to 257 lbs today...I am pinning another 300mg test e in the morning..I took another .5 arimidex today..I have another thread going for my odd weight gain on caloric deficit.

Here's a link

How am I gaining weight while on a caloric deficit!!??
How am I gaining weight while on a caloric deficit!!??

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

Benadryl DOESNT work, keto does, id use ketotifen for sure. This was proven in detail on anther forum. Benadryl was speculation that caught on, it isnt true.

 

[Bone Gristle]

Benadryl DOESNT work, keto does, id use ketotifen for sure. This was proven in detail on anther forum. Benadryl was speculation that caught on, it isnt true.

Proven... on a forum?

Yeah, call me crazy if I'm a bit skeptical of some forum bro science.

Link?

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

Proven... on a forum?

Yeah, call me crazy if I'm a bit skeptical of some forum bro science.

Link?

Tehn you should be extremely skeptical of broscience started by Anthony Roberts that assumed since Bendryl and Keto were similar antihistamines that bendryl would do the same damn thing that keto does when it comes to b2 receptors cause thats where the nonsense started. There is a thread I am trying to locate that totally dispels the nonsense, which explained well for me why benadryl didnt do shit for me & keto did.

 

[Bone Gristle]

Tehn you should be extremely skeptical of broscience started by Anthony Roberts that assumed since Bendryl and Keto were similar antihistamines that bendryl would do the same damn thing that keto does when it comes to b2 receptors cause thats where the nonsense started. There is a thread I am trying to locate that totally dispels the nonsense, which explained well for me why benadryl didnt do shit for me & keto did.

I have no idea who Anthony Robert's is, only Bill Roberts:

Albuterol Profile

Now I'm not saying you're wrong, but I sure as hell trust this guy's word over some random forum dwellers anecdotal evidence. A link proving otherwise would be great.