HGH plus Test E cycle for begginer

[Vali1984]

Hello Everybody

I am 187 cm tall(6ft2) and 85 kg(187pounds)

I started lifting and crossfit 14 months ago. When I started I was 115 kg(253pounds) and now I weigh 85kg(187pounds). I have a personal trainer who has done wonders in motivating me to keep my diet in check, during theese 14 months I don't think I had more than 6-7 cheat meals. But now I decided to take my body to the next level in terms of aestethic and start a HGH cycle. My parents are both doctors so I have easy access to pharmaceutical grade stuff. After researching a little and talking with an endocrinologist doctor we came up with the next cycle:

4ui HGH(Genotropin, Pfizer) every day, 24 weeks
Test E 500mg a week, 12 weeks
Aromasin 12.5mg every other day week 2-12

PCT with Clomid and Nolvadex 2 weeks after my last test e shot

Now my questions:
Has anyone tried this cycle? If so, with what results?

Realisticaly, what gains should I expect?

If I keep my diet perfect and adapted to my new body requierments and I train just as hard, wil I be able to keep my new mass? I've seen various opinions on this and I don't know what to think. I don't plan on doing more than 2-3 cycles in my life an after that I want to become 100% natty

Do you have some before/after shots after HGH cycles? If there is already a thread about theese before/after shots, can you give me a link?


My trainer can't help me with answers as he is 100%natty. So you guys are my only hope to get some answers. Thank you very much in advance

 

[Wunderpus]

Hello Everybody

I am 187 cm tall(6ft2) and 85 kg(187pounds)

I started lifting and crossfit 14 months ago. When I started I was 115 kg(253pounds) and now I weigh 85kg(187pounds). I have a personal trainer who has done wonders in motivating me to keep my diet in check, during theese 14 months I don't think I had more than 6-7 cheat meals. But now I decided to take my body to the next level in terms of aestethic and start a HGH cycle. My parents are both doctors so I have easy access to pharmaceutical grade stuff. After researching a little and talking with an endocrinologist doctor we came up with the next cycle:

4ui HGH(Genotropin, Pfizer) every day, 24 weeks
Test E 500mg a week, 12 weeks
Aromasin 12.5mg every other day week 2-12

PCT with Clomid and Nolvadex 2 weeks after my last test e shot

Now my questions:
Has anyone tried this cycle? If so, with what results?

Realisticaly, what gains should I expect?

If I keep my diet perfect and adapted to my new body requierments and I train just as hard, wil I be able to keep my new mass? I've seen various opinions on this and I don't know what to think. I don't plan on doing more than 2-3 cycles in my life an after that I want to become 100% natty

Do you have some before/after shots after HGH cycles? If there is already a thread about theese before/after shots, can you give me a link?


My trainer can't help me with answers as he is 100%natty. So you guys are my only hope to get some answers. Thank you very much in advance

Not enough time w/ the GH, IMO needs 5-6 months minimum.

 

[Mr.B66]

Looks like a good first cycle, honestly the results your gonna see will be mostly from the testE. When it come to putting on muscle fast aas s far superior to GH.
However i will be very interested in what happens when you stop your aas cycle at 12 weeks. Will the GH help you maintain your gains ?
Personally im running testC and GH rt now and i think they work great together but im not sure how GH will be as a stand alone.
So to answer your question, you should see great gains in muscle but i believe the testE will be the reason for most if not all of it. The GH will help you stay pretty lean as long as you keep your diet on point, which it sounds like you do.

Good luck and keep us updated on how it goes[emoji4]


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[Vali1984]

Thank you for your answer!

 

[Wunderpus]

Looks like a good first cycle, honestly the results your gonna see will be mostly from the testE. When it come to putting on muscle fast aas s far superior to GH.
However i will be very interested in what happens when you stop your aas cycle at 12 weeks. Will the GH help you maintain your gains ?
Personally im running testC and GH rt now and i think they work great together but im not sure how GH will be as a stand alone.
So to answer your question, you should see great gains in muscle but i believe the testE will be the reason for most if not all of it. The GH will help you stay pretty lean as long as you keep your diet on point, which it sounds like you do.

Good luck and keep us updated on how it goes[emoji4]


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IMO better to start the GH before the cycle and run it during the cycle. Reason being, GH stimulates new cell production. Then, those cells are primed and ready for growth/volumization when the AAS hits. Then, continue the GH post cycle for it's anti-catabolic effects. I would structure it like this-

2 months before AAS, GH
12 weeks GH w/ AAS
3-4 months GH post cycle.

 

[Vali1984]

Not enough time w/ the GH, IMO needs 5-6 months minimum.

24 weeks is 6 months

 

[Vali1984]

IMO better to start the GH before the cycle and run it during the cycle. Reason being, GH stimulates new cell production. Then, those cells are primed and ready for growth/volumization when the AAS hits. Then, continue the GH post cycle for it's anti-catabolic effects. I would structure it like this-

2 months before AAS, GH
12 weeks GH w/ AAS
3-4 months GH post cycle.

Thank you very much, I didn'tthink about that, What a great point!

 

[Mr.B66]

IMO better to start the GH before the cycle and run it during the cycle. Reason being, GH stimulates new cell production. Then, those cells are primed and ready for growth/volumization when the AAS hits. Then, continue the GH post cycle for it's anti-catabolic effects. I would structure it like this-

2 months before AAS, GH
12 weeks GH w/ AAS
3-4 months GH post cycle.

100% agree with you on this. I was going just on his planned cycle. But your advice is deff the way to go.
Great advice Wunder[emoji4]

 

[Vali1984]

I have one more question I forgot to ask. Is it true that injecting HGH directly into fat helps get rid of the fat faster in the area where you injected? I still have some fat on my thigs and lower abdomen that I seem not to get rid off

 

[Wunderpus]

I have one more question I forgot to ask. Is it true that injecting HGH directly into fat helps get rid of the fat faster in the area where you injected? I still have some fat on my thigs and lower abdomen that I seem not to get rid off

Nope!

 

[Vali1984]

Sorry I keep coming with questions, but I got another one... If I do this cycle, how much time do I have to wait until I can do a second cycle? Thank you all for being so kind and answering my questions

 

[Wunderpus]

For AAS, most people do time on equal to time off.

 

[ironwill1951]

I would not do it at all gh is not the miracle compound some people think it is ,
their are many compounds that you will get more results with than gh at a fraction of the cost, I use gh yr round but its a compound you use when you have tried everything else .

 

[Gunrunner]

4ui HGH(Genotropin, Pfizer) every day, 24 weeks
Test E 500mg a week, 12 weeks
Aromasin 12.5mg every other day week 2-12

PCT with Clomid and Nolvadex 2 weeks after my last test e shot

As others have mentioned, most of your gains will come from the AAS use not the GH. However the timing you have with GH and AAS is good as you will build up the GH in your system, and increase IGF levels, while on the Test cycle and continue it past your cycle while on PCT to help keep your gains. So overall I like it. Start the GH and the AAS at the same time.

As for when to start your next cycle. The general rule is time on + time of PCT is how long you wait until you start your next cycle. Not sure what your PCT time is but it looks like you will have to wait 18 weeks from end of PCT to the start of your next cycle.

 

[Vali1984]

Thank you all for your answers!! So there are some who stay year round on HGH? I am thinking of using it specially for its anti catabolic effects. And because I have easy access to it. As a conclusion, should I stay on it for a year or a little more if I plan to do 2 test e cycles?

 

[Gunrunner]

Some like to cycle on and off, some year round and some cycle between and low and a high period. I go off for about a month each year and then back on to a low dose of 2-3IUs a day. As I get into contest prep I may bump it up to as much as 6IUs a day. But I add peptides in there to get some extra GH boost for less money.

 

[Vali1984]

Some like to cycle on and off, some year round and some cycle between and low and a high period. I go off for about a month each year and then back on to a low dose of 2-3IUs a day. As I get into contest prep I may bump it up to as much as 6IUs a day. But I add peptides in there to get some extra GH boost for less money.

Thank you!! I will talk to an endocrinologist on monday to discuss the new things I learned and I will update with the final form of the cycle! Thank you all for the patience and for answering my questions!!

 

[Robfromga]

Good first few posts.

 

[Dr JIM]

My parents are both doctors!

After researching a little and talking with an endocrinologist doctor we came up with the next cycle:


Realisticaly, what should I expect?

EXPECT both your parents and your "endo" friend to have SHORT MEDICAL CAREERS!

 

[Dr JIM]

Sorry I keep coming with questions, but I got another one...s

Ironic how that works out isn't it,

You have an "endocrinologist" and "physician parents" who arrange your cycles from AAS, to rHGH and even PCT, but neither have informed YOU of the risks, benefits or the most fundamental management strategies of such therapy!

BULLLLLLLSHIT!

Or maybe you would like to post the labs ANY competent endo or "Physician Parents" would INSIST UPON!

On second thought might some of that "GH" be for SALE, lol!