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Banning immigrants from "certain" countries

Seems like a great idea to me - we all know WHY we're banning them, and if we have to make it country specific rather than tied to religion, that's too bad, but better then letting them in.

Here's a current story from Sweden, with 3 young Afghanis raping and live-streaming the activity on FB - English version here:
Two Afghan migrants arrested over three-hour rape streamed on Facebook Live in Sweden

I took a look at how this is reported in Sweden - Swedish version below:
Tre begärs häktade för gruppvåldtäkten i Uppsala

Hilarious - in a tragic sense - in the Swedish newspaper they talk about how one of the 3 (not 2 as reported in the Sun article) men (now arrested) for the rape "feels miserable" - because he is in custody! No info about how the female "feels" after the rape.

You can't make this stuff up - Sweden is an INSANE country, it's beyond rescue. The trajectory we were on during Obama - I sure hope Trump manages to break this suicidal arc (to use a favored term used by liberals).
 
Wealthy nations like united emirates, Saudi Arabia , Kuwait. Why aren't they doing anything if not more for their brothers and sisters. The various victims of the Syrian war etc.
 
Wealthy nations like united emirates, Saudi Arabia , Kuwait. Why aren't they doing anything if not more for their brothers and sisters. The various victims of the Syrian war etc.

I think it's two reasons - on the one hand side the so-called Palestinians and all the other various remnants (losing sides) of the Syrian and many other conflicts in the region are simply not attractive to them, the UAE et al know full well what internal conflict it would create to try to take these people on - on the other hand, there's bound to be an anti-Israel angle, i.e. the oppressive ME regimes need Israel to help them fan their own domestic political flames in the direction of Jerusalem and away from themselves.
 
You actually believe that Muslim people should be judged because of 3 animals. How about when a white suprimist blows up a black church or synagogue? Should we ban anymore white people from entering our country or better identify white suprimist.
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As if rapes and murders haven't been committed by every ethnic group on the planet.

So has slavery, but that doesn't shut liberals up, does it?

What's your point? Potential criminals from overseas are welcome, without papers, since we also have criminals anyway in the US? Damn, you liberals do think in unique ways.
 
So has slavery, but that doesn't shut liberals up, does it?

What's your point? Potential criminals from overseas are welcome, without papers, since we also have criminals anyway in the US? Damn, you liberals do think in unique ways.

You started the thread. Now, you defend your specious reasoning with a reference to potential criminals? I say that potential and actual criminals come from all ethnicities. What's your point?
 
You started the thread. Now, you defend your specious reasoning with a reference to potential criminals? I say that potential and actual criminals come from all ethnicities. What's your point?

Huh, you make a muddy post, I ask for clarification, and now you're questioning ME? You're a piece of work.
 
Anyone care to name me one country made better and more secure after allowing mass immigration from muslim countries? Germany...Sweden...France... I will wait.
 
Anyone care to name me one country made better and more secure after allowing mass immigration from muslim countries? Germany...Sweden...France... I will wait.
Germany after the 2. World war. Early fifties and sixties 100.000's of Turkish immigrants moved to Germany.they needed work force after war killed most men.They are integrated and became proud part of the society.
Several of the German National soccer team are Turkish right now. So the good examples exists.....
 
Ok there are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. Estimated 50-130,000 Isis supporters.
200,000 with the most radical estimates.
So less than 1%.
.006% to be exact.
There are the same percentages of radicals in the Christian faith (kkk, nazi extremists, etc)
You simply can't say that Muslims should be banned for the actions of a few.
There's actually a word for that^ it's called RACISM!
 
Germany after the 2. World war. Early fifties and sixties 100.000's of Turkish immigrants moved to Germany.they needed work force after war killed most men.They are integrated and became proud part of the society.
Several of the German National soccer team are Turkish right now. So the good examples exists.....

Ok.. well name another country:)
 
Germany after the 2. World war. Early fifties and sixties 100.000's of Turkish immigrants moved to Germany.they needed work force after war killed most men.They are integrated and became proud part of the society.
Several of the German National soccer team are Turkish right now. So the good examples exists.....
Germany is a disaster at the moment after the mass refugee influx. Not even debatable.
 
Anyone care to name me one country made better and more secure after allowing mass immigration from muslim countries? Germany...Sweden...France... I will wait.
Things take time man, they've only been migrating mostly the last 2 years.
How long would it take your family to learn a second language?
I have a perfect example for you though, America. Everyone's ancestors here migrated from different cultures for various reasons and now we have the greatest country on earth.
 
Ok there are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. Estimated 50-130,000 Isis supporters.
200,000 with the most radical estimates.
So less than 1%.
.006% to be exact.
There are the same percentages of radicals in the Christian faith (kkk, nazi extremists, etc)
You simply can't say that Muslims should be banned for the actions of a few.
There's actually a word for that^ it's called RACISM!
Did you just say that muslim radicals are similar in number to the kkk? Please state your source on those statistics.
 
Things take time man, they've only been migrating mostly the last 2 years.
How long would it take your family to learn a second language?
I have a perfect example for you though, America. Everyone's ancestors here migrated from different cultures for various reasons and now we have the greatest country on earth.
You clearly need to brush up on your world news. They are not assimilating in Germany or just about anywhere else in europe.
 
Anyone going to address that we haven't had any mass killings in this country from refugees?

How do you guys not understand this ban is the greatest recruitment tool for the enemy? When people feel persecuted, left out, discriminated against well that spawns hatred.

Trump is continuing the work of the bush administration in helping create our enemies.

Al queda didnt exist in iraq with sadamm. Isis was created in the vaccum of iraq and libia.

I believe this was the plan from the beginning. Create war and enemies to further your control and profits.
 
Anyone going to address that we haven't had any mass killings in this country from refugees?

How do you guys not understand this ban is the greatest recruitment tool for the enemy? When people feel persecuted, left out, discriminated against well that spawns hatred.

Trump is continuing the work of the bush administration in helping create our enemies.

Al queda didnt exist in iraq with sadamm. Isis was created in the vaccum of iraq and libia.

I believe this was the plan from the beginning. Create war and enemies to further your control and profits.
Spare me the recruitment tool talking point. They hate us already and doesn't the left always say that terrorism has nothing to do with Muslims or Islam?
 
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