TSL LABS

It varies from individual to individual. What works for you might not for someone else.

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Yeah, i can generally agree with you, but......someone looking to normalize a hormonal deficiency is way different than a person that has been on gear looking to hold on to gains.
 
Where I'm at 200 a week is what they gave me and said that was the max they were allowed to dose. I don't know if it was true but it didn't keep me close to the top end of normal. It was a trt clinic not an actual doc.

I have noticed a lot of HRT/TRT clinic opeing up shop. LOL. They all jumping on the bandwagon. Most recently, i saw a huge billboard advertising HCG for weight-loss, targeting women. Can you believe?!.
 
300mg, of test Cyp no less, am i right? Yielding just 800?! Just imagine the outrage if anyone got those numbers from a UGL gear. LOL. I swear the more and more i read and learn, the less i regard Total and concern myself with Free and other variables.

Yeah lol, I would be the guy to close a lab down with my blood results [emoji23][emoji23]. And that is 800 on real pharm grade Watson straight from the pharmacy.

They did start me out at 200 mg but it didn't do much, then went to 250 and got closer to where she (dr.) wanted to see it, then she said let's go to 300 mg and see how your body does. At 300mg it is pretty perfect and don't have to use any AI. So it works for me and I feel good. She did say it's a little higher than she wants it to be, but if I feel good at 800 then let's stay there.

I probably have the coolest dr ever and can talk to her about anything and if she doesnt know, she tells me and says she will research and get back... normally a few days or weeks later she calls me and gives me the answer.
 
Yeah lol, I would be the guy to close a lab down with my blood results [emoji23][emoji23]. And that is 800 on real pharm grade Watson straight from the pharmacy.

They did start me out at 200 mg but it didn't do much, then went to 250 and got closer to where she (dr.) wanted to see it, then she said let's go to 300 mg and see how your body does. At 300mg it is pretty perfect and don't have to use any AI. So it works for me and I feel good. She did say it's a little higher than she wants it to be, but if I feel good at 800 then let's stay there.

I probably have the coolest dr ever and can talk to her about anything and if she doesnt know, she tells me and says she will research and get back... normally a few days or weeks later she calls me and gives me the answer.

That's golden, man. A doc you can really talk to! Woman no less..is she hot too?
 
I probably have the coolest dr ever and can talk to her about anything and if she doesnt know, she tells me and says she will research and get back... normally a few days or weeks later she calls me and gives me the answer.
I use to think the same thing about my GP I had since i was 16. Talked about everything but before getting into the sensitive topics. I would ask him this is "off the record" right and he always said "of course". Was all bullshit!!!!!! One visit he left the room and his computer screen on and there was all the shit we had discussed!!!!! :mad: Got him to delete it all and never went back. Be careful fellas....
 
I use to think the same thing about my GP I had since i was 16. Talked about everything but before getting into the sensitive topics. I would ask him this is "off the record" right and he always said "of course". Was all bullshit!!!!!! One visit he left the room and his computer screen on and there was all the shit we had discussed!!!!! :mad: Got him to delete it all and never went back.

:eek: Is all I can say. I think I would die right there and then. LOL
 
Basically how i got started...I knew something not right was up with me..I'm 43 right now but i had felt like for the last 10 years i was become more and more like my grumpy old man. However, i was always physically active, been working out for as long a i can remember, I never pigged out on food per se, so i couldn't understand why i was always feeling like a different person.. One day, way before I started TRT and came across a YouTube vid by a guy calls himself BignoKnow. And although his particular reasons for starting HRT were way different than mine, hearing his story was an eye opener. Honestly, i had the stereotypical point of view that TRT was for old farts. Until one day i my primary doc suggested to check my levels based on our discussion about my symptoms. The rest, as they say...well, here we are. LOL.
Yeah I wish I had stared years before I did. I had to force my docs to test for low t.
 
300mg, of test Cyp no less, am i right? Yielding just 800?! Just imagine the outrage if anyone got those numbers from a UGL gear. LOL. I swear the more and more i read and learn, the less i regard Total and concern myself with Free and other variables.
Total T is important but not nearly the end all be all. Seeing guys call bloods that ONLY come up 5x bad or shit is ridiculous. They all read too much in to a fallacy. Dr Scally's PCT timing tool is to blame. Many have made a false connection believing the 7-10x rule applies to TT.
IT DOES NOT
He has even went on the record to say its a very very rough translation to TT numbers never intended FOR THAT PURPOSE.
I only score 3-4x EVERYTIME.
When i get labs everything is done EXACTLY the same as before. Same protocol. I draw 48 hrs post pin. Not 50, not 62, not 38. Otherwise the testing is invalid. Then i take TT numbers and ÷ by dosage = [ your number ]. Which for me is always 3-4x.

If thats way off i have legitimate reason to blame shit gear. I have years of using the same protocol to prove it
 
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