Slicin' and Dicin' into the summer

I'm actually not interested in a mental masturbation style semantics debate, because like yourself I'm fundamentally on the side of the debate that the look of modern bodybuilders is appalling.

However, it isn't only top level bodybuilders that use high amounts of GH and insulin, it is widespread even in divisions where midsections must remain tight (such as men's physique and EU classic divisions). So using unilateral language to describe a compound(s) is somewhat irresponsible, even if just trying to make an appeal to dramatics.
So instead of expanding on your thoughts you digress and state that it is irresponsible to call insulin shit.
Ok.. Hat is off to you..
 
Abdominal growth? None that I have noticed at all, and no one has ever commented on it, either....

I have used many, many, different protocols... From Mutant's, to John Meadows, Bostin Loyds etc...
Didnt know meadows had an insulin protocol?
 
Didnt know meadows had an insulin protocol?
It's in a PM I have from him on Professional Muscle.

He uses insulin (Humalog) when he's using injectable carnitine, as he discusses briefly in - I believe - his Arnold prep... He goes much further in depth in his private section of his website about the whole process.

Also, here are some of his answers to some questions regarding insulin:

"Hi John wondering what’s your take on insulin? What’s the best time to use it pre or post? And do you recommend a certain protocol? What do you find works best?
Thanks," - Member


"IF one were to use it – I would advise using Humalog (it gets in and gets out) pre-workout. It’s job is to transport. So preworkout allows for transport of nutrients to muscle cells (preferentially) as you train. That’s my 2 cents. Also insulin receptors get “tired” easily and so does cells ability make glut 4, so short cycles appear to be best (4 weeks)." - JM

" I know I need carbs I was just wondering if I need to have one shake shortly after the shot and then sip on one intra workout or can I just get away with intra workout one that way I’d just have more carbs intra instead of splitting them into 2 shakes.
Sorry for confusion. Thanks " - Member


"Well if you take it 5 to 10 minutes before training the intra shake should be good provided carbs are adequate. I would also have a small preworkout meal with some carbs 30-45 minutes before training as well."- JM

@gr8whitetrukker it's pretty clear he doesn't like to openly discuss the actual amounts of insulin he uses, or recommends, as many variables effect that number. But, the process is PRETTY close to what Mutant suggests.
 
I didn't measure the abdominal growth but my innie became an outie and generally I saw a noticeable difference in my gut size. Insulin and hgh is the difference between the new body builders and the old school. If you could get to the pro level with using steroids alone, wouldn't you prefer having a smaller gut?
There is too much focus on drugs for some people and not enough diet, working out and TIME.
Insulin and hgh has ruined many physiques

If ANYTHING the likelihood of hGH (hGH -> IGF-1 -> intestines) increasing abdominal size is much more likely, due to the fact the large intestines have some of the most IGF-1 receptors in your body.... However, I've run ~20ius/day of hGH and insulin at medium levels (20 or so ius a day, as well) and haven't ever experienced any abdominal growth. To be completely honest, I'm NOT sure why a lot of these high level pros show such obvious distention....

We can agree that the look is generally unsightly, at best, however I haven't seen any concrete evidence to support WHAT actually causes it... It would be in bad judgement to assume correlation = causation.

Your opinion on insulin is much like your opinion on synthol, it's just a regurgitation about how it's "ruined" body building and has no place within the sport. But, I actually don't believe you know a thing about either one, or have used either one... Quite frankly, I think you are bored and troll this forum, without any real PED or gym experiences.
 
Your opinion on insulin is much like your opinion on synthol, it's just a regurgitation about how it's "ruined" body building and has no place within the sport. But, I actually don't believe you know a thing about either one, or have used either one... Quite frankly, I think you are bored and troll this forum, without any real PED or gym experiences.
Synthol AKA an injectable steroid used to increase size is used very often. Synthol doesn't have to be synthol, you can use regular steroids to increase size and induce a chemical inflammation.

Quite frankly you are a kid that injects to much shit and doesn't have a lot to show for it. 20 iUs of hGH at your size screams out idiot. Not to mention your whole cycle plan... And IDGAF what you think about me ;) How much do you even weigh?? You don't include any pics of yourself because you are tiny and doing all these drugs..

Me 5 years ago, about your age but didn't take as much drugs as you. Since then been improving on my weaker muscle groups. Post up Mister funnydose.
 
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Synthol AKA an injectable steroid used to increase size is used very often. Synthol doesn't have to be synthol, you can use regular steroids to increase size and induce a chemical inflammation.

The use of SEO has little to do with inducing chemical inflammation but rather to stretch the surrounding fascia of the applied-to muscle, thereby allowing more room for the hypertrophy process to operate.

Synthol is also not an injectable steroid, nor does it directly contribute to tissue growth.
 
The use of SEO has little to do with inducing chemical inflammation but rather to stretch the surrounding fascia of the applied-to muscle, thereby allowing more room for the hypertrophy process to operate.

Synthol is also not an injectable steroid, nor does it directly contribute to tissue growth.
People think that you can gain more muscle mass via fascia stretching, however this is not true. At least there is no research or common sense behind to support the theory.

Increasing size via chemical inflammation works very well pre-contest.
 
Synthol AKA an injectable steroid used to increase size is used very often. Synthol doesn't have to be synthol, you can use regular steroids to increase size and induce a chemical inflammation.

Quite frankly you are a kid that injects to much shit and doesn't have a lot to show for it. 20 iUs of hGH at your size screams out idiot. Not to mention your whole cycle plan... And IDGAF what you think about me ;) How much do you even weigh?? You don't include any pics of yourself because you are tiny and doing all these drugs..

Me 5 years ago, about your age but didn't take as much drugs as you. Since then been improving on my weaker muscle groups. Post up Mister funnydose.
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Sworder, from the bottom of my heart, I hope the DNP cycle you're running kills you.
 
Sworder, from the bottom of my heart, I hope the DNP cycle you're running kills you.
Eman, you are a circle jerker that has no knowledge or personality. I don't care, you have nothing to contribute with to this forum.
Sure 200mgs is gonna kill me, so scared of the unknown eh? People back in the day thought they would fall off the earth if they went too far also. Use compounds wisely and you are fine.. If you are too dumb, I am all for survival of the fittest. Don't need people like you spreading their seed and creating another generation of retards..
 
Eman, you are a circle jerker that has no knowledge or personality. I don't care, you have nothing to contribute with to this forum.

Sworder, the only insult you have is the word "circle jerker". Although I have to admit, I'm proud of you that you managed to keep CBS' name out of your cocksucker when you said it this time. Progress!

Sure 200mgs is gonna kill me, so scared of the unknown eh

I'm not afraid of the unknown nor do I have anything against DNP, matter of fact I'll praise DNP until the end of time if it so happens to kill you. :)

As far as no knowledge or personality lol, you're well known on this forum for being a useless piece of shit that gets kicked around for, well, being a useless piece of shit.

You've posted some of the most retarded questions I've ever seen. The only knowledge you have is regurgitating Bill Roberts articles and the only contribution you've made to the board is the entertainment of your cum leaking asshole. Even now, some guys are reading this thinking, "who the fuck is sworder?" But then I post up about the cum dripping ass and they say, "haha, I've heard of him before!"

The point is, everyone that hates you isn't a circle jerker... You just aren't liked or wanted here. I'm sure it's the case in your personal life as well, despite your claims otherwise of being rich and successful... Which no one believes.

So with that said, take a few extra DNP for me tonight, sworder.
 
The point is, everyone that hates you isn't a circle jerker... You just aren't liked or wanted here. I'm sure it's the case in your personal life as well, despite your claims otherwise of being rich and successful... Which no one believes.

So with that said, take a few extra DNP for me tonight, sworder.
Why do you even post? Like I said, I don't care what people think about me. It's mainly degenerates left on this board. I have never had cum leaking out of my ass but I had BPH and I am not ashamed.

I don't talk about my personal life but if you want to say that I am poor and a shitter I can prove you wrong. Rich... Idk rich is like multi-millionaire, not there yet. :D

Nice post though. As expected from trash..
 
Synthol AKA an injectable steroid used to increase size is used very often. Synthol doesn't have to be synthol, you can use regular steroids to increase size and induce a chemical inflammation.

Quite frankly you are a kid that injects to much shit and doesn't have a lot to show for it. 20 iUs of hGH at your size screams out idiot. Not to mention your whole cycle plan... And IDGAF what you think about me ;) How much do you even weigh?? You don't include any pics of yourself because you are tiny and doing all these drugs..

Me 5 years ago, about your age but didn't take as much drugs as you. Since then been improving on my weaker muscle groups. Post up mister funnydose.

Unfortunately, your pic from 5 years ago (somehow relevant in your world) doesn't load:
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Since it's clear you actually - again - have no fucking clue what you're talking about, I will inform you.... Synthol actually was a brand invented by Chris Clark (late 80's) of site enhancement oil. It didn't contain any hormones whatsoever... It became PumpNPose... Some brands down the road did include prohormones in their SEO, but, I think that was pretty rare.

I believe you're referring to users using oil-based AAS for site injection...? Now, if you are, yes, people do that regularly. I honestly cannot comprehend what you're trying to say when you say "synthol doesn't have to be synthol." Not sure if anyone else can, but orange has to be orange, and iron has to be iron, just as a few examples... However, in your world of delusions, it comes as no surprise your half-retarded brain would say something like that.

Regarding my age, you don't know anything about me, seriously, at all. I weighed 233lbs yesterday. Also, there are a lot of photos of myself on here, lol.

About the hGH and the dosage at which I used it... It was an experiment, that's all. Nothing more, nothing less. I am more than capable of doing as I please with whatever I'd like... You can have your opinions on the matter, but your opinions don't have to be opinions (using your logic, I kinda like it).

I would also like to note, I never CLAIM to be the biggest, the best or the most informed... I solely talk about the things I actually have experience with, and report back what works, and what doesn't (for me). No one HAS to read this thread, but, many do and they take inspiration from it. As you probably do not know, I don't ever condone people to cycle as I do, nor do I ever recommend "ridiculous" cycles, ever. I'm quite conservative in what I suggest people should run, as, it's not my fucking body. But, you seem awfully concerned about what I'm doing with my own body.... Probably due to your overall lack of success.

I don't oftentimes get called "tiny"... Actually, never at all unless it's by an internet troll like yourself who has zero accountability. This was me, on the 27th of May in 2017... How's that for an up-to-date photo?


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Unfortunately, your pic from 5 years ago (somehow relevant in your world) doesn't load:
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Since it's clear you actually - again - have no fucking clue what you're talking about, I will inform you.... Synthol actually was a brand invented by Chris Clark (late 80's) of site enhancement oil. It didn't contain any hormones whatsoever... It became PumpNPose... Some brands down the road did include prohormones in their SEO, but, I think that was pretty rare.

I believe you're referring to users using oil-based AAS for site injection...? Now, if you are, yes, people do that regularly. I honestly cannot comprehend what you're trying to say when you say "synthol doesn't have to be synthol." Not sure if anyone else can, but orange has to be orange, and iron has to be iron, just as a few examples... However, in your world of delusions, it comes as no surprise your half-retarded brain would say something like that.

Regarding my age, you don't know anything about me, seriously, at all. I weighed 233lbs yesterday. Also, there are a lot of photos of myself on here, lol.

About the hGH and the dosage at which I used it... It was an experiment, that's all. Nothing more, nothing less. I am more than capable of doing as I please with whatever I'd like... You can have your opinions on the matter, but your opinions don't have to be opinions (using your logic, I kinda like it).

I would also like to note, I never CLAIM to be the biggest, the best or the most informed... I solely talk about the things I actually have experience with, and report back what works, and what doesn't (for me). No one HAS to read this thread, but, many do and they take inspiration from it. As you probably do not know, I don't ever condone people to cycle as I do, nor do I ever recommend "ridiculous" cycles, ever. I'm quite conservative in what I suggest people should run, as, it's not my fucking body. But, you seem awfully concerned about what I'm doing with my own body.... Probably due to your overall lack of success.

I don't oftentimes get called "tiny"... Actually, never at all unless it's by an internet troll like yourself who has zero accountability. This was me, on the 27th of May in 2017... How's that for an up-to-date photo?


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Rather decent post. Don't have much to respond to it. About your size, decent. You are impatient and could benefit from letting time to it's job. Either way, you expressed yourself in a way that I can't argue really, do you...

My overall lack of success? I am not a hater, nor unsuccessful so I don't know where that is coming from. Maybe I seem like I am full of hate and just trash talk any and everybody. IDK how you see it.
 
Then why troll @Wunderpus log again? Got nothing better to do eh?

Sup Wunder, good time to be getting ready for summer!
I am not trolling! Asking questions and got a respectable answer.. Check my posts and see if I am throwing out insults alone or if there are things to respond to. Then see who starts throwing shit like an angry chimp at a zoo.
 
I am not trolling! Asking questions and got a respectable answer.. Check my posts and see if I am throwing out insults alone or if there are things to respond to. Then see who starts throwing shit like an angry chimp at a zoo.
Well, you posting stuff that's pretty rude as you seem to be putting Wunderpus down and you have no clue how experienced Wunder is.
 

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