Slicin' and Dicin' into the summer

I actually know what Wunder does for a living and, although I'm not going to advertise it, I will say that if you take a look at the lengths that he goes to in bodybuilding and the dedication he has for it... It's not a surprise to me in the least that he's very successful in his professional life as well.
I imagined he was a successful professional at something. Some guys just come across like they hold themselves well, would excel at whatever they wanted to. He fits that bill.
 
You know, i cant say that i really notice any real changes in my look using it either. For me it more because i feel really good on it and im hoping thats also thr reason i was able to tolerate so much tren. I really felt great and usually on half that dose i feel like death. Course i do it anyway because i love the look tren gives [emoji4]

Personally, I think if you're a good responder to Tren then I can't imagine how much better Mast would make you look. When Tren is doing it's thing, you're in single digit BF and you got some GH going with it (but controlling the water retention) the look is about as good as it gets for most guys. Big, full, hard as nails and striations everywhere.
 
Btw, i know thats you in your avi and i gotta say you look incredible. Deff next level physique and pretty much what we all want to achieve.
Im jealous [emoji53]
Thanks man. Always a work in progress. Just like you, I'm never happy with what I see. I don't post pics much if ever because of that mentality. My attitude has always been that I'm 100% on show day. Not the day before, not the day after (hopefully). So my pics are few and far between.

I'll throw in a couple of previous show pics just for the hell of it.

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Thanks man. Always a work in progress. Just like you, I'm never happy with what I see. I don't post pics much if ever because of that mentality. My attitude has always been that I'm 100% on show day. Not the day before, not the day after (hopefully). So my pics are few and far between.

I'll throw in a couple of previous show pics just for the hell of it.

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WOW!!!! Like i said NEXT LEVEL PHYSIQUE!!!
 
I posted this same pic forever ago in a thread about affording hGH lol!

@fodsod I appreciate it! I work hard to be able to enjoy the things in life that I do... As Trukker said, I don't have a wife or kids... But, fuck, dating is even more expensive! Ha!

@Eman We can tell the world, if you want... Everyone, Eman and I are, in fact, male prostitutes.
 
I like this cycle here. And i wouldnt worry about loosing your hard earned mass, this is plenty of gear and in the end i believe diet and training is number one. As far as only running growth and getting fat, i dont think that will be the case at all. I only run growth, and it seems i can eat whatever the fuck i want and cant get fat. Although honestly i eat 80% clean meals, when i go rogue i eat everything in sight.
I dig what your doing here and look forward to the end results.
Hey brother, I was saying I will look "flat" not "fat"... I'm not worried about putting on fat with this cycle and training... I'm worried about not having the "FULL" look you have with GH and carbs and/or insulin...
 
Hey brother, I was saying I will look "flat" not "fat"... I'm not worried about putting on fat with this cycle and training... I'm worried about not having the "FULL" look you have with GH and carbs and/or insulin...

Lol!!! I thought you said fat! Guess when it comes to reading i got me some learnin to do [emoji851]
 
I posted this same pic forever ago in a thread about affording hGH lol!

@fodsod I appreciate it! I work hard to be able to enjoy the things in life that I do... As Trukker said, I don't have a wife or kids... But, fuck, dating is even more expensive! Ha!

@Eman We can tell the world, if you want... Everyone, Eman and I are, in fact, male prostitutes.

LMFAO!!!! I knew i recognized you [emoji15]
 
Yep, pretty fuckin awesome man

Thanks man. Always a work in progress. Just like you, I'm never happy with what I see. I don't post pics much if ever because of that mentality. My attitude has always been that I'm 100% on show day. Not the day before, not the day after (hopefully). So my pics are few and far between.

I'll throw in a couple of previous show pics just for the hell of it.

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I actually know what Wunder does for a living and, although I'm not going to advertise it, I will say that if you take a look at the lengths that he goes to in bodybuilding and the dedication he has for it... It's not a surprise to me in the least that he's very successful in his professional life as well.
I know as well. Fuck it im gonna say

He travels the fucking globe installing those door stopper springs. You know? Those funny little springs on the wall behind a door that have a rubber bumper attached to them? Yup:cool:
He was ranked #1 in da nation door spring installer. Handed a golden life time achievement award for his excellent door stopper installation ability. Ramada Inn, Holiday Inn FUCKING TRUMP TOWER MAN! Thats ALL him. Mans a legend out here.
 
I know as well. Fuck it im gonna say

He travels the fucking globe installing those door stopper springs. You know? Those funny little springs on the wall behind a door that have a rubber bumper attached to them? Yup:cool:
He was ranked #1 in da nation door spring installer. Handed a golden life time achievement award for his excellent door stopper installation ability. Ramada Inn, Holiday Inn FUCKING TRUMP TOWER MAN! Thats ALL him. Mans a legend out here.
Lol you kill me. Wunder is a true wonder !
 
I know as well. Fuck it im gonna say

He travels the fucking globe installing those door stopper springs. You know? Those funny little springs on the wall behind a door that have a rubber bumper attached to them? Yup:cool:
He was ranked #1 in da nation door spring installer. Handed a golden life time achievement award for his excellent door stopper installation ability. Ramada Inn, Holiday Inn FUCKING TRUMP TOWER MAN! Thats ALL him. Mans a legend out here.
So he spends a lot of time on his knees? :)
 
Hey brother, I was saying I will look "flat" not "fat"... I'm not worried about putting on fat with this cycle and training... I'm worried about not having the "FULL" look you have with GH and carbs and/or insulin...
I'm running low test (250mg a week) and high tren (100 Ed) with 4 IUs of HGH a day and my carbs are about 250 grams a day. I will say the sides are much less running test/tren this way but I will also say that I do feel much flatter than when I was running test and tren equal and getting more carbs in me (400+ per day). However you are running more tren and HGH then I am so you may be fine.
 
Have you gotten an IGF-1 blood test yet ? It'll be really helpful to see how much you score on 18iu GH per day and wether hgh has a point of diminishing returns in terms of IGF level. The test cost only $70.
 
Have you gotten an IGF-1 blood test yet ? It'll be really helpful to see how much you score on 18iu GH per day and wether hgh has a point of diminishing returns in terms of IGF level. The test cost only $70.
I have not... I agree, would be interesting to do. I always just forget...
 
I'm running low test (250mg a week) and high tren (100 Ed) with 4 IUs of HGH a day and my carbs are about 250 grams a day. I will say the sides are much less running test/tren this way but I will also say that I do feel much flatter than when I was running test and tren equal and getting more carbs in me (400+ per day). However you are running more tren and HGH then I am so you may be fine.

Bump your carbs up to 400g/day and see if you still stay flat. If you do keep carbs there and try a high carb re-load One day per week.
 
A little bit of experimentation happened yesterday, and I think it was awesome!

I've been toying with the idea of running short HIGH insulin and HIGH oral blasts for 18-21 days and then taking 3+ weeks off, and then restarting... This is based solely on the idea of sensitivity, and, safety. We all know orals that're abused over long periods, especially at high doses, run a risk of liver damage/harm. Well, insulin is no different, you can risk things such as diabetes with reckless and prolonged use.

Here's what I did:
2 hours pre workout 50mg's anadrol, 100mg's anavar. Bill Roberts recommends stacking these two together, and I really have enjoyed the "synergy" in the past. This is RELATIVELY mild in terms of hepatoxicity as well, and doesn't seem to cause any BP related issues... 100mg's of drol seems to be a bit much for some people, but var is almost always tolerated at 100mg's.... So, together you seem to get the best of both worlds.... The strength and morale boost from the drol, along with the crazy pump from the var and I like var's property which increases creatine synthesis... It's a no brainer to add with the intra-workout I use.

1 hour pre workout: Pin 8iu GH

45 minutes pre workout: Pin Humulin R (@ChestRockwell mentioned his liking of Humulin R to me pre workout... I've never used it, but it seems like common fucking sense once you think about it... You get your insulin drip during, and after, your workout. Duh! This is WAY easier to track, for me at least, than Humalog pre and post...)

20 minutes pre workout: Shake 1 of 25g protein (I used Piana's egg white crystals.... I really, really, like these... They mix well with everything and don't have a milky texture... So it's nice with juice, or pre made "mixes" such as a BCAA powder). You could obviously use whatever high quality protein powder you like, digestibility is fucking KEY here, no cheap shit, no casein etc. Liquid egg whites would work, too, I just don't love drinking a ton of liquid pre workout. This shake was:

- 25g's of protein
- 1 Scoop Xtend BCAA (the Blood Orange flavor is SO good)
- 5 Grams of creatine mono
- 3 grams taurine
- 2000mg's citrulline malate
- 40 carbs worth of natty grape juice
- 15 carbs worth of natty honey
- 1 scoop of Rich Piana's 51/50 Pre Workout (this shit is fire....)

75 minutes after first shake:

I was almost done with my lift, finishing up biceps, calves and abs... So I was glad I used the powdered egg whites... Seems to digest well and not cause nasty bloating or get stuck in my stomach... This was just like sipping an intra for me. Shake was:
-25g's of protein
- 1 Scoop Xtend BCAA (the Blood Orange flavor is SO good)
- 5 Grams of creatine mono
- 3 grams taurine
- 40 carbs worth of natty grape juice
- 15 carbs worth of natty honey

75 minutes after shake two:

- 50 grams of protein, I used liquid egg whites here
- 1/4 cup of oatmeal
- some unsweetned almond milk
- 1 frozen banana
- 1 stevia packet



This pump was insane! I felt awesome and completely fueled throughout my whole workout. It's a bit tough to drink all those shakes, I'm going to use less water next time.

This process will be used 3 or 4 days a week, on my heaviest days and days without post lifting cardio.... I will then take a few weeks off and hit it again. Maybe I'll try dbol next time?

Thanks to @Eman @mands and @GearGodess for listening to my idiotic rambles about improving this shit, and giving your input, as well.
 
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