My fellow gun people

What do ya mean by flat trajectory? Rifles are made in a way that the trajectory arcs up to allow for further flight time while fighting gravity.

I can about guarantee you already know this, and flat trajectory means something completely different. I don't know much about ballistics. Just shoot stuff, idk.

I didn't mean 100% flat, it's not a bleeping laser gun. :-)

But a 3,400 fps round will travel along a flatter path than a 2,800 fps round - assuming equal aerodynamics.
 
Some things I'm looking for. A 16" upper with a odg (green cerakote) hand guard. Also want to find a top notch scope with atleast 25 times magnification on a great sale. Don't wanna spend more than 15 hundred on the scope. I'm a vortex fan btw.

Now for the candy, lol. I just bought today... 3 ar15 .223 lower recievers and 3 ar15 .308 (dpms compatible) lower recievers. First build will either be .223 odg 16" tactical ar or a 6.5 creedmoor with a 22" barrel. Thats where the scope comes in. I want a thousand plus yard scope on the 6.5 creedmoor. We'll figure out what to do with the other lowers later, lol.
 
I got a 40cal M&P off of gunsamerica.com for $355 here about a year ago. It was a le turn in an picked it up dirt cheap. Haven't had an issue wirh it yet an wanting to put a NCStar green tactical laser on it as soon as i get a few extra bucks ahead.
M&P is a very reliable rig in my opinion. Have the 40 and an m4. Love em both.
 
Some things I'm looking for. A 16" upper with a odg (green cerakote) hand guard. Also want to find a top notch scope with atleast 25 times magnification on a great sale. Don't wanna spend more than 15 hundred on the scope. I'm a vortex fan btw.

Now for the candy, lol. I just bought today... 3 ar15 .223 lower recievers and 3 ar15 .308 (dpms compatible) lower recievers. First build will either be .223 odg 16" tactical ar or a 6.5 creedmoor with a 22" barrel. Thats where the scope comes in. I want a thousand plus yard scope on the 6.5 creedmoor. We'll figure out what to do with the other lowers later, lol.

Why mess with the Creedmoor? You must really like that long distance shooting. It is cool of course, so do what you like.

That's ideally a bolt action round though, isn't it? I mean, if you're trying to get best MOA out of it, it seems wasted on an AR platform. Short barrel life too, AFAIK.
 
Why mess with the Creedmoor? You must really like that long distance shooting. It is cool of course, so do what you like.

That's ideally a bolt action round though, isn't it? I mean, if you're trying to get best MOA out of it, it seems wasted on an AR platform. Short barrel life too, AFAIK.
Well, any round in a bolt action will shoot better than on an ar platform. I just love the ar because you can customize it to fit you wants/needs and for the fact that you can build them yourselves. I'm in to precision shooting. I have 1 bolt action precision rifle as of now and plan on getting more and by every thing that I'm reading the 6.5 creedmoor is just a superior round to the 308. I will be doing 2 ar's in .308 and 1 in the 6.5 to have a bit of variety. Plus the 1 precision. 223 ar i have right now. Plus, i just want all my guns to look good just hanging on the wall. LoL.
 
M&P is a very reliable rig in my opinion. Have the 40 and an m4. Love em both.
Ive been kicking around the idea of getting a 10mm Glock. Id they can take down a bear than good wnough to me to protect my loved ones. Plus they hold 15rds in 10mm. Grab me 3 or 4 more clips an id wouldnt bat an eye to walk put into any woodlands lol
 
Ive been kicking around the idea of getting a 10mm Glock. Id they can take down a bear than good wnough to me to protect my loved ones. Plus they hold 15rds in 10mm. Grab me 3 or 4 more clips an id wouldnt bat an eye to walk put into any woodlands lol

It's actually a pretty good overall gun. Some of the commercial rounds are basically a hot .40 so they're good for personal defense and you can buy full power loads that I'd be comfortable out and about with. I considered one a while back but never got around to picking one up.
 
Well, any round in a bolt action will shoot better than on an ar platform. I just love the ar because you can customize it to fit you wants/needs and for the fact that you can build them yourselves. I'm in to precision shooting. I have 1 bolt action precision rifle as of now and plan on getting more and by every thing that I'm reading the 6.5 creedmoor is just a superior round to the 308. I will be doing 2 ar's in .308 and 1 in the 6.5 to have a bit of variety. Plus the 1 precision. 223 ar i have right now. Plus, i just want all my guns to look good just hanging on the wall. LoL.

Not knocking the Creedmor - it's a fine long range round with reduced recoil - better ballistics than the .308, it's "slipperier", less wind drift impact. The negatives I've read have been significantly lower barrel life.

My point was that if you're going to the trouble to build a fine longer range rifle, why not base it on a bolt action? Personally, I'd like a Sako shooting 338 Lapua - doesn't get much better than that, I certainly couldn't blame the equipment if I miss.
TRG 42

And of course a 50BMG - if for no reason other than to offend liberal shitheads and Bay Area Californians, but I repeat myself.
 
Ive been kicking around the idea of getting a 10mm Glock. Id they can take down a bear than good wnough to me to protect my loved ones. Plus they hold 15rds in 10mm. Grab me 3 or 4 more clips an id wouldnt bat an eye to walk put into any woodlands lol
I like the idea too. What would u rather have? A .44 mag or the 10mm glock? Smith and Wesson makes a combat magnum in .44 mag. The only obvious advantage is the clip form in the 10mm glock. But i think clearly the advantage of accuracy in the midrange is in favor of the revolver. Making it more ideal for big game or downing an enemy at mid distance with a big ol hole
 
I like the idea too. What would u rather have? A .44 mag or the 10mm glock? Smith and Wesson makes a combat magnum in .44 mag. The only obvious advantage is the clip form in the 10mm glock. But i think clearly the advantage of accuracy in the midrange is in favor of the revolver. Making it more ideal for big game or downing an enemy at mid distance with a big ol hole
As much as I'd like to have a 44mag, I'm not much on revolvers. To me the 10mm Glock would be the way to go. With a standard 15rd mag, I'd get 3 or 4 extra mags an not have to worry bout reloading a revolver in a time of crises. Eject that bitch onto the ground once it's empty an pound another in cock it an continue firing. I don't wanna have to stop an reload a revolver if theirs a black bear running at me if I'm out deep down in the woods hunting. Wish Glock made one in a 44mag but till then I believe the 10mm is the way to go
 
I like the idea too. What would u rather have? A .44 mag or the 10mm glock? Smith and Wesson makes a combat magnum in .44 mag. The only obvious advantage is the clip form in the 10mm glock. But i think clearly the advantage of accuracy in the midrange is in favor of the revolver. Making it more ideal for big game or downing an enemy at mid distance with a big ol hole

Get both - there won't be any misfeeds or other issues with a .44 - probably around a 6" would be about right unless you're into really hot loads, then bump it up to 7.5" or whatever you can draw quickly. You're a big boy, you can probably carry a bigger gun than most of us. Then have the pistol as backup.

BTW, I have an S&W Silhouette (10 5/8" barrel) and that's really accurate at quite a distance, with 4 adjustable sight settings, but the shoulder holster goes down to my my hip - not the quickest draw. ;-)
 
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Get both - there won't be any misfeeds or other issues with a .44 - probably around a 6" would be about right unless you're into really hot loads, then bump it up to 7.5" or whatever you can draw quickly. Then have the pistol as backup.

BTW, I have an S&W Silhouette (10 5/8" barrel) and that's really accurate at quite a distance, with 4 adjustable sight settings, but the shoulder holster goes down to my my hip - not the quickest draw. ;-)
Yeah no doubt. I dont like the aesthetics of a long barreled revolver. The 6" barrel is near perfect. And there will be zero misfeeds or malfunctions with a revolver and the accuracy is much better than any magazine fed pistol. Just like u said
 
Yeah no doubt. I dont like the aesthetics of a long barreled revolver. The 6" barrel is near perfect. And there will be zero misfeeds or malfunctions with a revolver and the accuracy is much better than any magazine fed pistol. Just like u said

And the oomph packed in the .44 is much bigger than what the 10mm can deliver.

Who would be able to put you down quicker - Manny Pacquiao or Mike Tyson - both in their primes? :)
 
Ive been kicking around the idea of getting a 10mm Glock. Id they can take down a bear than good wnough to me to protect my loved ones. Plus they hold 15rds in 10mm. Grab me 3 or 4 more clips an id wouldnt bat an eye to walk put into any woodlands lol
They're pretty cool. 10mm is pretty expensive, unless you are reloading. It is a sweet round, i use to have a smith and wesson model 1049 i believe that was a 10mm cool looking gun.
 
Not knocking the Creedmor - it's a fine long range round with reduced recoil - better ballistics than the .308, it's "slipperier", less wind drift impact. The negatives I've read have been significantly lower barrel life.

My point was that if you're going to the trouble to build a fine longer range rifle, why not base it on a bolt action? Personally, I'd like a Sako shooting 338 Lapua - doesn't get much better than that, I certainly couldn't blame the equipment if I miss.
TRG 42

And of course a 50BMG - if for no reason other than to offend liberal shitheads and Bay Area Californians, but I repeat myself.
416 Barrett is good shit too;)
 
I like the idea too. What would u rather have? A .44 mag or the 10mm glock? Smith and Wesson makes a combat magnum in .44 mag. The only obvious advantage is the clip form in the 10mm glock. But i think clearly the advantage of accuracy in the midrange is in favor of the revolver. Making it more ideal for big game or downing an enemy at mid distance with a big ol hole
Every situation is different so I think "options" is the way to go. Let's say for example you and the old lady are in bed and your kids are in rooms adjacent to you. Middle of the night and you wake up with an intruder in your bedroom. 20 gauge birdshot that bitch and keep the blood in one room. Just my humble opinion on home defense. It's how I justify gun purchases to my wife.;)

Gotta Have Options:)

I will take one of each.:D
 
Yes, a better round ballistically, but it is kinda exotic - meaning it's f-ing expensive to shoot. 50BMG and the 338Lapua are already pricey enough....

And then you need to get a 4-5 mile long back yard to shoot the damn thing.
Had a Barrett in 416 single shot and a 50 Barrett with I believe it was 10 round mag. Both with BORS optics. Fun but definitely pricey. Had a Barrett battle rifle in 6.8 Rem with Acog on top. It was the bees knees. Sweet rigs.
 
Not knocking the Creedmor - it's a fine long range round with reduced recoil - better ballistics than the .308, it's "slipperier", less wind drift impact. The negatives I've read have been significantly lower barrel life.

My point was that if you're going to the trouble to build a fine longer range rifle, why not base it on a bolt action? Personally, I'd like a Sako shooting 338 Lapua - doesn't get much better than that, I certainly couldn't blame the equipment if I miss.
TRG 42

And of course a 50BMG - if for no reason other than to offend liberal shitheads and Bay Area Californians, but I repeat myself.
Just waiting on my trigger, 10pounds. Actually building a .308 and the 6.5 at the same time.
 
Just waiting on my trigger, 10pounds. Actually building a .308 and the 6.5 at the same time.

That's cool - takes serious skills to build proper long range rifles. You reload as well?

Mind showing us a pic of all the special tooling you use?

Have fun! Not many who can take pride in saying they built their own rifle. (Just don't tell Obama)
 
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