Cardio is going to kill you!

5'8
230
12ish bf

Huh... classic physique for certain! Unless your on, or getting on a strong GH/slin regimen I wouldn't push for the open...
Maybe you could try the 212 division as well.
I would like it for other members of meso to go pro...
Do we have any pros that you know of...?
I know @rutman is going for the Masters pro qualifier. But I haven't seen any pros yet...
 
Huh... classic physique for certain! Unless your on, or getting on a strong GH/slin regimen I wouldn't push for the open...
Maybe you could try the 212 division as well.
I would like it for other members of meso to go pro...
Do we have any pros that you know of...?
I know @rutman is going for the Masters pro qualifier. But I haven't seen any pros yet...
A couple but im not putting their business out there.
 
A couple but im not putting their business out there.

If you cut down and deplete enough to 200lbs-205lbs or less, maybe go for men's physique... I could see that also working out for you. The tiny waist and huge arms will go in your favor.
Although classic physique is probably your show.

You might be able to deplete down all the way to 195 after a serious prep. And in that situation men's physique might be your show i think.

You can definitely win, in bodybuilding u seem to have good genetics.
 
If you cut down and deplete enough to 200lbs-205lbs or less, maybe go for men's physique... I could see that also working out for you. The tiny waist and huge arms will go in your favor.
Physique is way to crowded for me and i like being big. If i cut and feel small i just won't step on stage and put on more size.
 
Physique is way to crowded for me and i like being big. If i cut and feel small i just won't step on stage and put on more size.

I can respect that. The reason I think men's physique is so crowded is because it's easier physique to attain. It takes longer essentially to build up for classic physique... And even longer for the open.

Buendia for example has been winning 4 straight years in men's physique at Olympia since the age of 23.

The average age of the men's open winner at Olympia has been 31 years old...
That goes to show it just takes longer to build a open physique.
 
How about your stats?

I'm happy you asked!
Age: 22
Height: 5'9
Weight: 188 lbs
Body fat: 11%

Going to start my cut tomorrow, going to prep down to 5-6% by the end of January. than ideally do a quick 6-8 week bulk blast (thinking a 700MG trest ace with letero cycle) at the beginning of February. Than go into a full prep at the end of March beginning of April running possibly test P 150MG Tren ace 700MG and mast P 700MG going back down to 5% body fat by the end of June and contest ready before July/August before my show. ***And this prep, for april-july is when I plan on posting pics as well as keeping a log...

Gonna win that. Then later on that year Ill attempt a pro qualifier...

My ideal size is 5'9 185 stage weight at 4-5% BF and working on proportions and symetry there after.
 
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I'm happy you asked!
Age: 22
Height: 5'9
Weight: 188 lbs
Body fat: 11%

Going to start my cut tomorrow, going to prep down to 5-6% by the end of January. than ideally do a quick 6-8 week bulk blast (thinking a 700MG trest ace with letero cycle) at the beginning of February. Than go into a full prep at the end of March beginning of April running possibly test P 150MG Tren ace 700MG and mast P 700MG going back down to 5% body fat by the end of June and contest ready before July/August before my show. ***And this prep, for april-july is when I plan on posting pics as well as keeping a log...

Gonna win that. Then later on that year Ill attempt a pro qualifier...

My ideal size is 5'9 185 stage weight at 4-5% BF and working on proportions and symetry there after.
Sounds like a lot of work and AAS.
 
I remember that one! Jusdatip they said. Ha!
Ikr those fuckin bastards bahahahha. Its funny now but at that moment in time I wasn't so giggly lol. This a lot of the reason why I have no friends IRL. They all end up exposed in their backstabbing ass ways once me an moe set up the trap. I call it the "I Wana Tap That" Trap bahahahaha. Catchy ass name though :) .... I'm not much on socializing with new people. I keep my company with a carefully chosen very few. Loose lips sink ships an its hard to find trustworthy people in this lifetime. Hell I don't even like going out in the day light. To many eyes all around Thank god winter is coming an its getting darker quicker by the hour now. I prefer going out when its pitch black. Night time is the right time lol ;) Then again maybe its just me I'm being way to fuckin paranoid lmfao:D:p
 
I'm happy you asked!
Age: 22
Height: 5'9
Weight: 188 lbs
Body fat: 11%

Going to start my cut tomorrow, going to prep down to 5-6% by the end of January. than ideally do a quick 6-8 week bulk blast (thinking a 700MG trest ace with letero cycle) at the beginning of February. Than go into a full prep at the end of March beginning of April running possibly test P 150MG Tren ace 700MG and mast P 700MG going back down to 5% body fat by the end of June and contest ready before July/August before my show. ***And this prep, for april-july is when I plan on posting pics as well as keeping a log...

Gonna win that. Then later on that year Ill attempt a pro qualifier...

My ideal size is 5'9 185 stage weight at 4-5% BF and working on proportions and symetry there after.
You gonna throw a pct in there anywhere or are you gonna put yourself on trt at 23? Seems like alot of trouble for 185 lbs?
 
You gonna throw a pct in there anywhere or are you gonna put yourself on trt at 23? Seems like alot of trouble for 185 lbs?
That seems to be the trend nowadays with these young folk. Rushing for a procard and not thinking of the long run. I know guys that have been on the circuit for years that still dont have a procard but they improve every year and are in perfect health. Then there are those guys that get a procard in a year and a half and come and go like the fucking wind. They last like 3 or 4 years as pros then have to quit because of all kinds of health issues, perfect example justin compton.
 
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