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Horimono said:
I'm taking Gabapentin. However I have been on it for years so I don't believe it caused a rise in prolactin. Although, I don't know. I have never had my prolactin level tested until recently. I did have BW prior to taking the NPP, but the CBC/Chem panel did not have prolactin on it. So, it's possible it was already elevated. When I had prolactin tested, the range was 4-15.2. My result was 15.2. Still in range. But maybe it was high enough to cause me to have problems, I believe.

I've got a retired professional bodybuilding friend who has been running gear and bodybuilding his whole life. He said he never takes any form of Nandrolone cause it causes deca dick within a few weeks. He said for him, its age related. He is in his late 40's. He said he used to run it when he was in his 20-30's and never had a problem. But now that he is older, he won't touch it. He doesn't think it's related to his prolactin being elevated, just age.
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According to the fda 40% of men experienced elevated values of prolactin while using Gabapentin.

Sounds like you more than likely fall under this 40% and since you didn’t have bloods done prior we wouldn’t actually know it was the 19nor that raised your prolactin while controlling e2.

In most cases where people control their estrogen but still see a raise in prolactin, while using 19nor....typically have an outside factor they fail to consider such as medication and other lifestyle changes

There is always the exception to the rule.. but most of the time you will see the outside factor taking place.
 
Roger rabbit said:
According to the fda 40% of men experienced elevated values of prolactin while using Gabapentin.

Sounds like you more than likely fall under this 40% and since you didn’t have bloods done prior we wouldn’t actually know it was the 19nor that raised your prolactin while controlling e2.

In most cases where people control their estrogen but still see a raise in prolactin, while using 19nor....typically have an outside factor they fail to consider such as medication and other lifestyle changes

There is always the exception to the rule.. but most of the time you will see the outside factor taking place.
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Where did you obtain this information about Gabapentin causing hyperprolactemia? Did you see a study? Something in a journal? I'm not disputing it, I'm just curious. I couldn't find anything legitimate online. Maybe it does. However, I've been on it for years. Never had any problems. Then after 4 weeks of NPP I start having problems. Doubt it was the Gabapentin. It was the Nandrolone.
 
Horimono said:
Where did you obtain this information about Gabapentin causing hyperprolactemia? Did you see a study? Something in a journal? I'm not disputing it, I'm just curious. I couldn't find anything legitimate online. Maybe it does. However, I've been on it for years. Never had any problems. Then after 4 weeks of NPP I start having problems. Doubt it was the Gabapentin. It was the Nandrolone.
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Yes, the fda website is where you can find the information.

I’m not disputing the npp didn’t raise prolactin, but if the prescription Drug had you already slightly elevated, then the npp brought you up slightly more over the course of the 4 weeks..this is where the problem took place and became noticeable enough to get bloods to check.

Basically, you had a compounding effect. two drugs added up to one problem lol
 
Horimono said:
Dialated my pupils (I realize this is not a mental side), made me disphoric, spaced out feeling, little anxious, wired, and a little moody. Have you ever taken an SSRI? Paxil. Zoloft. Prozac. These made me feel the same way but 20 times worse. I think if I would have taken less than .50mg and worked my way up, it wouldn't have been so bad.
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Oh right I see
 
IMG_0867.JPGThis is me about 4 weeks into blast .. all Stanford gear 600mg test e 75mgs tren a per week . About 8 days into 20mg superdrol also got a about a week left of tren and I will drop it due to appetite issues .sitting around 245 6'4" depleted in a caloric deficit 200-250 under maintenance cals feeling strong but superdrol with tren is staring to kick my ass .. one has to go soon unfortunately
 
I am all for tren .. I like the compound but for me I do not gain much muscle from it .. I can hold size and harden up quick with tren in a deficit .. but for me tren will not allow me to eat the proper diet to grow .. once I drop the tren within three days my appetite comes back full force
 
SauceBoss said:
I am all for tren .. I like the compound but for me I do not gain much muscle from it .. I can hold size and harden up quick with tren in a deficit .. but for me tren will not allow me to eat the proper diet to grow .. once I drop the tren within three days my appetite comes back full force
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I don’t make big agains from tren Cuz i can’t eat .... npp is my shit from now on ... i won’t even cut with tren anymore
 
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