What to expect mentally

[enigma34]

Just to note on the trt thing. I've read that using hcg won't give you shut down so, in theory and what I read trt down the road isn't needed if you run hcg every cycle?

 

[enigma34]

I agree with this. It almost sounds to me like you're really just wanting to cycle for the wrong reasons. If you a gym rat now with little social life it ain't gonna get better brother. Is stay natty for a while and find another hobby along with your bodybuilding. Also, you kinda sound like the type that "thinks" themselves into problems. Your doing good researching before you plunge in but let it end there for now.

You are correct on all that. Hard for me to focus on more than one thing, I like to go 110% . Iv gone thru many hobbies, why Iv given up video games along time ago because the limited time I have now just wouldn't be worth even playing for even an hour a day.

But I wouldn't be cycling because low t, would be for the reason I said and be bigger. Isn't that why it's used in the first place?

 

[HIGHRISK]

Just to note on the trt thing. I've read that using hcg won't give you shut down so, in theory and what I read trt down the road isn't needed if you run hcg every cycle?

Not true

 

[BigNattyDaddy]

Been listing to this guy a lot , thoughts?

Sounds like he's suggesting to his users to take gear, he rambles too much.

 

[Dr JIM]

Everyone is different.

BUT they are different for different reasons and that caveat should NEVER be overlooked less AAS be used as a scapegoat for maladaptive behavior.

That being said, there should be no doubt those who use AAS in higher dosages are more likely to be on edge than those who use lower dosages, the difference is CONTROL

Many overlook the FACT a significant portion of those who use AAS have been to the pen, used other recreational drugs, are emotionally conflicted bc of some mood disorder or perhaps were mistreated/abused earlier in life, and those life experiences certain can have an impact on the behaviors commonly associated with AAS alone.

Bottom line; an individual’s past and present background rather than AAS per se defines the behavioral consequences of PEDS

Jim

 

[Dr JIM]

Been listing to this guy a lot , thoughts?

How can someone talk so long
and say nothing!

Define your GOAL in objective terms before running AAS something few novices ever do.

I wanna get big is not a goal at all
but rather is one of the first signs of body dysmorphism

 

[Dr JIM]

1) I've read that using hcg won't give you shut down so,

2) in theory and what I read trt down the road isn't needed if you run hcg every cycle?

1) post that read bc he don’t know squat

2) post that theory bc he’s an idiot!

3) I hope these statements are not reflective of “research” mentioned by the Addidas bro in the video posted earlier.

 

[The Terminator]

Just to note on the trt thing. I've read that using hcg won't give you shut down so, in theory and what I read trt down the road isn't needed if you run hcg every cycle?

You’ll still be shut down at the hp of the hpga, so you can still get hypogonadotropic hypogonadism.

 

[BigNattyDaddy]

How can someone talk so long
and say nothing!

Define your GOAL in objective terms before running AAS something few novices ever do.

I wanna get big is not a goal at all
but rather is one of the first signs of body dysmorphism

@Dr JIM, what are some examples of goals, in your opinion, that warrant the use of AAS?

 

[Thaistick]

Do as you wish, you're an adult. You're getting good advice here that you can benefit from. One thing I can guarantee is that if you ignore the advice you will look back one day and regret it. But we all have to make our own mistakes.
As far as the video you posted, that is not an example of good advice.

 

[Evom1]

Hire a good coach . A few ideas are

Jordan Peters
Matt Porter
Bleu Taylor
Phil Viz

 

[Inquiring Mind]

Been listing to this guy a lot , thoughts?

Well, that explains a lot.

 

[enigma34]

BUT they are different for different reasons and that caveat should NEVER be overlooked less AAS be used as a scapegoat for maladaptive behavior.

That being said, there should be no doubt those who use AAS in higher dosages are more likely to be on edge than those who use lower dosages, the difference is CONTROL

Many overlook the FACT a significant portion of those who use AAS have been to the pen, used other recreational drugs, are emotionally conflicted bc of some mood disorder or perhaps were mistreated/abused earlier in life, and those life experiences certain can have an impact on the behaviors commonly associated with AAS alone.

Bottom line; an individual’s past and present background rather than AAS per se defines the behavioral consequences of PEDS

Jim

Anabolic Steroids and The Depression Connection
True. I have read study's done in thet80s90s like this one. Thinking was a good read. talks about criminal behavior wall on also about
"one bodybuilder who, convinced of his own immortality, deliberately drove his new Corvette into a tree at over 60 miles per hour while a friend videotaped him. (Yes, he did live, and no he is not immortal" Anabolic Steroids and The Depression Connection

 

[enigma34]

Well, that explains a lot.

He has one titled something like what woman don't want you to know. About how they have a whole palette of things like makeup, push-up bras, fake tits etc to keeonthem looking younger. Wall men are supped to come out here natural just being plan dumb. I'm not singl But he's talking about how steroids are to guys what makeup and wHat other tools are for wemon . I found that channel a month ago. The thought of using and my reasons have been there for 2 years. Just this guy is only one talking like this and I understand/ agree mostly on what he says.

 

[enigma34]

1) post that read bc he don’t know squat

2) post that theory bc he’s an idiot!

3) I hope these statements are not reflective of “research” mentioned by the Addidas bro in the video posted earlier.

Can't find that exact one, I try to book mark what i can. I normally read one topic for months from over as many people's views I can /or study's I fine. But my take on The use of hcg is summed up in what these people saying. Don't think there's anymore research to read on it after that. But that one article I can't find, person said something about why let the horses roame free when you can keep them in the cage in the first place by using hcg.

HCG: Why you should use it on-cycle only & how to prepare your CG for injections

The CRISLER HCG PROTOCOL - Part Deux

HCG 101: Real Talk on Hypogonadism & Human Chorionic Gonadotropin - John Doe Bodybuilding


I appreciate everyone's input, I'm not here being rude? I know there alot of good and bad info on the web. First time I'm actually talking to people about what question etc I have with this life style. This is all more knowledge from everyone to gather on all these topics.

 

[Wunderpus]

Hello Meso. I'm in a long term relationship, I'm asking what can I tell my gf what she can expect of my behavior change\effects on cycle.when I look up this topic it's mainly all old scare tactics about negatives on the brain , and wemo n complaining that there bf is on steriod s. I see professional bodybuilders doing fine in relationships \ig couples see happy.

She knows I'll be using soon and there's no bad talk from her about it , but in my head can be scared of the unknown \grass on the other side is greener .
what I'm looking to get out of using is a better overall joy in life overall and my relationship. Being supper man as they say. I am a moody person, using its said that it enhances any mental\behaviour issues you have now, what truth is in that saying?

I would be conscious of your actions, especially considering you already have mood issues.

Also, I think using anabolic steroids in this instance is a bad idea. It sounds as though there are underlying issues that should be tackled by a psychiatrist/therapist, rather than using anabolics to "treat" them....

 

[enigma34]

My thread post wasn't wanting to get talked out of it /post pone it, but I don't mind listening . I have collected about 5 or more years of test and anncerlires. I have been patient and not looking for instant results. Does test go bad/or crash from sitting overtime? I don't know what the other side is like and enjoy still finding any bit of info until then.

Reasons being for the collection is to be as prepared as I can in that aspect. Because people say once you use you won't want to just do one or a couple. When I start I know I'm in it for the life style change. Just as mentioned I do have moods and anxiety. I listen to both sides, one side says it's a great thing other is saying something else

 

[BigNattyDaddy]

My thread post wasn't wanting to get talked out of it /post pone it, but I don't mind listening . I have collected about 5 or more years of test and anncerlires. I have been patient and not looking for instant results. Does test go bad/or crash from sitting overtime? I don't know what the other side is like and enjoy still finding any bit of info until then.

Drug Expiration Dates — Do They Mean Anything? - Harvard Health

 

[enigma34]

Drug Expiration Dates — Do They Mean Anything? - Harvard Health

I ask because one of my vials have a small white feather looking thing floating in it, never noticed. I visit the stash time to time, brings warm feelings of enjoyment. Don't think that sounds silly to say because everyone here sounds hyped when a pack lands.

I'll probably heat that vial up? Or avoid that feather thing or transfer it into a ststeril vial

 

[BigNattyDaddy]

I ask because one of my vials have a small white feather looking thing floating in it, never noticed. I visit the stash time to time, brings warm feelings of enjoyment. Don't think that sounds silly to say because everyone here sounds hyped when a pack lands.

I'll probably heat that vial up? Or avoid that feather thing or transfer it into a ststeril vial

If there's a feather in one of your vials, I would throw away the entire order. Then I would post a picture and let everyone know not to order from that source.