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Major lower back and calves "pump" problem

Notits said:
Im not sure where you got the red blood cells info but it's bullshit. Take taurine and drink water.
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I'm glad you said this. I've never heard that before too. I got worried because I was having the worst calf pumps recently due to var.
 
CensoredBoardsSuck said:
I tend to stay around 30 - 40 mgs/day, usually divided into two doses.



It's funny how people respond so differently to these things. I feel the same way on test. And TBH, it really doesn't do much for me. I don't get the big strength gains and full feeling that everyone else raves about, just an increase in body hair and a lot of bloating.
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That's what ideal range I am considering including splitting doses.
 
PaulW29 said:
Just ran Anadrol for the first time.
It lasted about 8 days...
I needed to try it before swearing off Sd, Drol, and Dbol.
All the worst shit happened.
1. Loss of appetite (even with Test n Tren)
2. Back pumps that were horrible.
3. Lazy, felt like an old man that could nap at any moment. (Even with NAC, Tudca, Milk Thistle)

Just not worth it imo.

Only thing left on the list is Anavar. I'll buy raws and cap it myself eventually to try it.

Any other oral just isn't worth it. I really wonder how run down guys feel after using Halo or MTren for 2-3 weeks...
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Anadrol is one of those orals I always wanted to try, but won't because of the major water retention. I ran some halo's last cycle towards the end to test my strength. The worst side-effect it gave me was awful headaches to the point it would ruin my sleep and have a huge crash until I took the next pill.

CensoredBoardsSuck said:
Have you cycled again since your first run, MW?

Dbol is my favorite, period. It's like magic pills for me. The only side effect I get is a voracious appetite.
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Dbol was the first oral I ran, it was quite amazing at just 20mg/day for first 4 weeks and 30mg for last 2 weeks. At 20mg/day I felt a huge endurance boost, not so much strength until the 3rd week.
 
CensoredBoardsSuck said:
I don't get much water retention on any orals. I'll gain ~10 lbs in the first 7 - 10 days on dbol or A bombs, which is obviously fluid, but I don't look or feel bloated. I know some guys swell up like the Goodyear blimp but I never have.
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Same. It definitely saturates your muscles, but I don't get any of the bloat some guys report. I'm guessing it's from estro spikes.
 
CensoredBoardsSuck said:
I don't get much water retention on any orals. I'll gain ~10 lbs in the first 7 - 10 days on dbol or A bombs, which is obviously fluid, but I don't look or feel bloated. I know some guys swell up like the Goodyear blimp but I never have.
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Brolloks said:
Same. It definitely saturates your muscles, but I don't get any of the bloat some guys report. I'm guessing it's from estro spikes.
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What dose of a-drol do you guys take? Just from my experience with dbol I had a lot of water retention and I don't think I did more than 40mg/day. Guess I will never know how it would affect me until I try it myself. Worse case scenario I just drop the a-drol.
 
StrengthReaper said:
What dose of a-drol do you guys take? Just from my experience with dbol I had a lot of water retention and I don't think I did more than 40mg/day. Guess I will never know how it would affect me until I try it myself. Worse case scenario I just drop the a-drol.
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Well, from reading those studies above, it said there was no difference in the two groups who took 100mgs vs 150mgs so I guess 2 a day split up seems to be the most needed. It is a study indeed, but I noticed no real difference myself in those two specific doses. Once again, everybody is different.
 
I have been on 1250mg sust a week and 800mg deca week for the last 5 weeks. Just thru some anadrol in at 25 mg a day pre workout just for a little extra pop. That’s been 10 days. I was training hams on thurs of last week and may back pumps were so I tense I almost couldn’t finish the workout... anyway I embrace them... when I am sitting a lunch I do call raise while I am sitting g at the table. Holy shit gotta love the calves feeling full...
 
Am I the only weird one who experiences most of the painful pumps in my delts?

It seems no matter what body part I'm lifting (upper body) I seem to get the most excruciating pumps in my deltoids when runnin orals.
 
I sometimes get them in my fro t delts. But you got to be really I. Tuned to your body to know if it is a pump or something else like a tendon or something else that can cause problems. Shoulders take a lot of abuse with every body part we train. I usaully split front delts and side/rear usaully between my chest and back days. It works for this early 40’s guy.
 
Just coming off horrible back pumps myself. Turns out it was the hgh. Taurine , extra water, nothing helped. I felt like i couldn't stand even after barbell curls. Dropped the hgh and little over a week later I'm deadlifting again. Go figure.
 
midland2009 said:
Am I the only weird one who experiences most of the painful pumps in my delts?

It seems no matter what body part I'm lifting (upper body) I seem to get the most excruciating pumps in my deltoids when runnin orals.
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I get them quite often, especially in the rear delts, but all over, really. Those pumps are quite painful and there's no way to alleviate the ache except wait for the pump to go down.
 
MisterSuperGod said:
About 5 separate times. Using Anavar at 50 mg/day right now. Intense pumps during training, but no back pumps to speak of.

i hope i'm not jinxing myself here. Got SLDLs tonight.
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Yeah your pretty lucky. Var isn’t to bad with back pumps, but winny and SD are really bad.
 
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