[SOURCE] Pharmaceutical Grade Anabolics (PGANABOLICS) CANADA DOMESTIC + USA/NT

[Sdryx]

This guy has to be under 23.

Or possibly has extreme autism

LOL, I live with a fuckin doctor.

Keep shilling kid. You have no idea what I do for a living.

 

[Steve84]

He got a vague answer because he’s asking a question which cannot receive a clear answer.

Hence why, I initally stated if anyone ever wants to do any testing, PM me.

There are so many factors.

1. Which company is testing the product?

2. Is the testing company legit/reliable?

3. Who will send the product?

4. Through which testing method will the product be tested? (Some companies clearly state that there is a 10% + or - marging of error.)

Point number 4 is EXACTLY why my answer was vague (15-20%). I work in the pharmaceuticals, and unfortunately I usually assume people have the same knowledge as I do, but I shouldn’t assume that because it’s wrong and they don’t.

With that being said, now I hope
It’s clear as to why I didn’t provide a concrete answer.

It’s sort of like doing bloodwork for Test, you can’t say taking 200mg test per week will yeild X number or the test is bad. You can set a range, but that range can EASILY vary by up to even 50% from person to person pending factors such as the analysis method of the lab to how well that person’s body metabolizes test.

With producy lab testing the variance is not extreme, but you can easily have 10-15% variance from lab to lab in terms of results.

So say my anavar is labeled 10mg, but it’s actually 12mg and the lab has a 10% margin of error and it comes back at 13mg - community would give me shit, meanwhile the prodct is well within its range.

I hope that makes sense and if anyone is interested in diving into this further feel free to PM me - but unfortunately there are not clear cut answers to testing.

You definitely should NOT be 10-15% under or over.
5% yes, 10% isn't horrible but it's not ideal.

Blood and analytical testing are 2 different things completely. Why if you have bad bloods you should send a sample from that vial. So you know. Problem is if the result is bad the source wants an unopened vial tested for obvious reasons.

10MG Var should not be 13 and that is not in range. But it shouldn't be off 1 tablet tested. You have to test about 1-3 of the same pack cuz you never know with mixer.

 

[CanadaHumanGrade]

You definitely should NOT be 10-15% under or over.
5% yes, 10% isn't horrible but it's not ideal.

Blood and analytical testing are 2 different things completely. Why if you have bad bloods you should send a sample from that vial. So you know. Problem is if the result is bad the source wants an unopened vial tested for obvious reasons.

10MG Var should not be 13 and that is not in range. But it shouldn't be off 1 tablet tested. You have to test about 1-3 of the same pack cuz you never know with mixer.

This is precisely why in order to really gauge the quality of a UGL you need to look at what the majority of the people using that product think. A source can make any excuse for any negative result and the community can make any excuse for any positive result. Source’s product comes back bang on? (Excuse: they know that batch was being tested so it was made that way) Source’s product comes back poorly (Excuse: it was tampered with). You get what I am saying.

If 10 people are using products from a source and 8 are satisfied and 2 are complaining, then chances those 2 individuals are complaining about nothing. So my opinion is that if a source is selling garbage it will become apparent really quick and fast.

Obviously there are so many factors. For example, products like Clenbuterol, Viagra, etc (products that cause an immediate side effect) should be judged differently than say for example Equipoise or Deca.

Remember when I mentioned about that one client that was complaining to me that his Pharmacy Grade Letrozole wasn’t working, and then got bloods and came back apologizing? That’s the perfect example of someone receiving a 100% accurately dosed product, from a FDA approved manufacturer and still “thinking” it’s not legit. This is why, in my opinion judging a sources product can only really be judged after a multitude of users have tried him.

Regarding the entire 5%, 10%, 15% etc - I am not a manufacturer. In fact, I am harder on the manufacturers that I deal with than most other sources, because their quality of product directly impacts me. A manufacturer that is sourcing direct, can easily choose to selectively scam members as they well know the exact dose/content of each batch of products that they produce. I don’t.

I initally appeared on here with only Pharmacy Grade products, and then after using my own experience, doing my own search and some lab testing added brands that in my opinion are of the highest quality. It’s in my own best interest to carry quality brands. Why would I want to complement my pharmacy grade products with anything that isn’t quality? Makes no sense.

 

[CanadaHumanGrade]

On another note, we may have very very high quality DNP soon. As most of you know, China has banned the production of DNP Raws.

However, one of my manufacturers has confirmed that they have located a source for DNP raws within North America, so the API will be pure and lab made, unlike most of the stuff that was coming from China in the first place (made by industrial companies).

Just comes down to see whether or not they will want to produce it or not.

 

[movingiron88]

This is precisely why in order to really gauge the quality of a UGL you need to look at what the majority of the people using that product think. A source can make any excuse for any negative result and the community can make any excuse for any positive result. Source’s product comes back bang on? (Excuse: they know that batch was being tested so it was made that way) Source’s product comes back poorly (Excuse: it was tampered with). You get what I am saying.

If 10 people are using products from a source and 8 are satisfied and 2 are complaining, then chances those 2 individuals are complaining about nothing. So my opinion is that if a source is selling garbage it will become apparent really quick and fast.

Obviously there are so many factors. For example, products like Clenbuterol, Viagra, etc (products that cause an immediate side effect) should be judged differently than say for example Equipoise or Deca.

Remember when I mentioned about that one client that was complaining to me that his Pharmacy Grade Letrozole wasn’t working, and then got bloods and came back apologizing? That’s the perfect example of someone receiving a 100% accurately dosed product, from a FDA approved manufacturer and still “thinking” it’s not legit. This is why, in my opinion judging a sources product can only really be judged after a multitude of users have tried him.

Regarding the entire 5%, 10%, 15% etc - I am not a manufacturer. In fact, I am harder on the manufacturers that I deal with than most other sources, because their quality of product directly impacts me. A manufacturer that is sourcing direct, can easily choose to selectively scam members as they well know the exact dose/content of each batch of products that they produce. I don’t.

I initally appeared on here with only Pharmacy Grade products, and then after using my own experience, doing my own search and some lab testing added brands that in my opinion are of the highest quality. It’s in my own best interest to carry quality brands. Why would I want to complement my pharmacy grade products with anything that isn’t quality? Makes no sense.

You just totally contradicted yourself. Saying in order to gauge a product it should be based off of customer satisfaction. Then say a customer wasnt satisfied with his lotto got testing and it came back good. Lab testing is the end a be all. But you want to keep up this sharade and leave yourself a way out when your shit comes back 18% off, which to me is most certainly unacceptable. It just proves to us you do not have the confidence in your own product. If not put up or shut up. Instead you keep deflecting the issue at hand.

You do not have confidence in your product, if you did this wouldn't even be a discussion at this point. What happened to your pharmaceutical plant producing your goods? Should be real confident with that

 

[Freakmidd]

If 10 people are using products from a source and 8 are satisfied and 2 are complaining, then chances those 2 individuals are complaining about nothing

Are we still talking about lab tests here? Because 2/10 is a 20% failure rate.. hopefully that 20% is not acceptable to you as a source..

 

[CanadaHumanGrade]

Are we still talking about lab tests here? Because 2/10 is a 20% failure rate.. hopefully that 20% is not acceptable to you as a source..

No. 2/10 is referring to feedback from anecdotal reviews.

You just totally contradicted yourself. Saying in order to gauge a product it should be based off of customer satisfaction. Then say a customer wasnt satisfied with his lotto got testing and it came back good. Lab testing is the end a be all. But you want to keep up this sharade and leave yourself a way out when your shit comes back 18% off, which to me is most certainly unacceptable. It just proves to us you do not have the confidence in your own product. If not put up or shut up. Instead you keep deflecting the issue at hand.

You do not have confidence in your product, if you did this wouldn't even be a discussion at this point. What happened to your pharmaceutical plant producing your goods? Should be real confident with that

Global Pharma is a GMP approved facility and I proved that.

If you or anyone else needs a reminder, you can look it up yourselves on Government owned EU website below:

You can check it out on Eudra GMP’s website.


EudraGMDP is the name for the Union database referred to in article 111(6) of Directive 2001/83/EC and article 80(6) of Directive 2001/82/EC. It contains the following information:

• Manufacturing and import authorisations
• Good Manufacturing Practice (GMP) certificates.
• Statements of non-compliance with GMP
• GMP inspection planning in third countries

Please go to:

http://eudragmdp.ema.europa.eu/inspections/mia/searchMIA.do

1. leave EVERY field blank except country.
2. For country select “Estonia”
3. Click search
4. You will see MIA search results pop up
5. Click on the Down arrow under "Authorisation Holder”
6. You will see GPE - GLOBAL PHARMA as a registered and legitimate company in ESTONIA.


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As far as I am concerned, I am the only individual that has actually proven that their products (GLOBAL PHARMA) has some sort of legitimate license to produce products, as opposed to writing a little bs paragraph saying “Our products are made under the most sterile conditions, etc etc” with no proof, no pictures, no license, no nothing.

Furthermore, I’ve posted LabMax tests - while every other source has used who exactly? They either have no tests, or they’ve used Jano - aka mr bullshit.

So once again, if you’re going to call me arrogant, cocky or whatever go ahead... But I’ll firmly stand my ground in stating that 1. I offer Canadians the largest range of Pharmacy grade products that they cant get anywhere else. 2. I offer products from a GMP approved lab (Global Pharma) 3. I offer Pharma Tech Labs and SYN Pharma - SYN which is one of Canada’s respect brands and Pharma Tech which has thus far had no dissatisfied clients. 4. And I’ve paid out of pocket for Labmax tests which are posted in the public and you can reach out to Labmax to verify whatever you want. 5. I offer my clients all those in one platform. 6. I go out of my way and obtain any Pharmacy product on request that I do not regularly carry to make my clients happy.

Those are 6 clear advantages that are completely unique to PG Anabolics and for those reasons PG has done fantastic in sales and grown exponentially. That’s clear to the hundreds of people that shop with me. I don’t need to explain it.
I created PGA, because I am an ex bodybuilder and I created exactly what I envisioned would be an ideal shop for bodybuilders.

If you or anyone else would like to criticize me go ahead - but I am already more than confident in all the products lines that I carry and I am more than happy with my sales and current growth.

So if you or anyone else feels inclined to get into an argument over lab tests, etc while I’ve had zero complaints, then go ahead. You’re starting up drama over nothing and I have no reason to address something when there is nothing wrong with it to begin with.

 

[Wayacrucis]

I haven’t used many SYN Pharma products for consistent feedback, but I have used multiple Global items from PG and they’ve been amongst the best stuff that I have used. I have also ordered a good amount of his pharmacy grade products. I have nothing but good things to say about this source. Only problem was slow shipping but my last two orders have shipped next day so I think his order volume has increased and he is shipping daily now. Dont understand why always random guys have to pop in and ruin something good for the rest of us that just want quality products from someone solid. I read a few pages and couldn’t even stand it. You guys need a life. If you dont like the source don’t use him, but shut the fuck up and get a life unless you actually use his products and have a problem. Do whatever your doing pg and ignore these retards. In before I am a shill just like all the other 20+ people that had said good things about this source that keep getting called shills by no life people that spend their free time posting in a source’s thread that they dont even use lololol

 

[movingiron88]

No. 2/10 is referring to feedback from anecdotal reviews.



Global Pharma is a GMP approved facility and I proved that.

If you or anyone else needs a reminder, you can look it up yourselves on Government owned EU website below:

You can check it out on Eudra GMP’s website.


EudraGMDP is the name for the Union database referred to in article 111(6) of Directive 2001/83/EC and article 80(6) of Directive 2001/82/EC. It contains the following information:

• Manufacturing and import authorisations
• Good Manufacturing Practice (GMP) certificates.
• Statements of non-compliance with GMP
• GMP inspection planning in third countries

Please go to:

http://eudragmdp.ema.europa.eu/inspections/mia/searchMIA.do

1. leave EVERY field blank except country.
2. For country select “Estonia”
3. Click search
4. You will see MIA search results pop up
5. Click on the Down arrow under "Authorisation Holder”
6. You will see GPE - GLOBAL PHARMA as a registered and legitimate company in ESTONIA.


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As far as I am concerned, I am the only individual that has actually proven that their products (GLOBAL PHARMA) has some sort of legitimate license to produce products, as opposed to writing a little bs paragraph saying “Our products are made under the most sterile conditions, etc etc” with no proof, no pictures, no license, no nothing.

Furthermore, I’ve posted LabMax tests - while every other source has used who exactly? They either have no tests, or they’ve used Jano - aka mr bullshit.

So once again, if you’re going to call me arrogant, cocky or whatever go ahead... But I’ll firmly stand my ground in stating that 1. I offer Canadians the largest range of Pharmacy grade products that they cant get anywhere else. 2. I offer products from a GMP approved lab (Global Pharma) 3. I offer Pharma Tech Labs and SYN Pharma - SYN which is one of Canada’s respect brands and Pharma Tech which has thus far had no dissatisfied clients. 4. And I’ve paid out of pocket for Labmax tests which are posted in the public and you can reach out to Labmax to verify whatever you want. 5. I offer my clients all those in one platform. 6. I go out of my way and obtain any Pharmacy product on request that I do not regularly carry to make my clients happy.

Those are 6 clear advantages that are completely unique to PG Anabolics and for those reasons PG has done fantastic in sales and grown exponentially. That’s clear to the hundreds of people that shop with me. I don’t need to explain it.
I created PGA, because I am an ex bodybuilder and I created exactly what I envisioned would be an ideal shop for bodybuilders.

If you or anyone else would like to criticize me go ahead - but I am already more than confident in all the products lines that I carry and I am more than happy with my sales and current growth.

So if you or anyone else feels inclined to get into an argument over lab tests, etc while I’ve had zero complaints, then go ahead. You’re starting up drama over nothing and I have no reason to address something when there is nothing wrong with it to begin with.

You have not proven anything. You are saying GMP. ESTONIA. Which proves nothing. You are not confident in your product or you wouldn't be running your mouth like you are. You would back it up rather then make your long winded bullshit excuses.

And check out the lab testing section you rookie. There are quite a few other proven alternatives to the fraud Jano. Shit there isnt any talk of labmax whatsoever. Again your long winded response means shit. You have not shown lab testing on many products if any. The only thing you have done is shown yourself to be unsure of your product, arrogant and all talk. If you are so confident then.put your money where your mouth is. Since it is some Estonian approved lab lol. Go through the underground threads, even almost all small time and big time UGL's pay for lab testing and gauruntee the quality of the product. But your want to be gmp gear you wont stand behind. It tells us all we need to know. You have a sales pitch to sell not quality product.

Again you are all talk. Save it for your newbies that dont rely on facts.

 

[Wayacrucis]

You have not proven anything. You are saying GMP. ESTONIA. Which proves nothing. You are not confident in your product or you wouldn't be running your mouth like you are. You would back it up rather then make your long winded bullshit excuses.

And check out the lab testing section you rookie. There are quite a few other proven alternatives to the fraud Jano. Shit there isnt any talk of labmax whatsoever. Again your long winded response means shit. You have not shown lab testing on many products if any. The only thing you have done is shown yourself to be unsure of your product, arrogant and all talk. If you are so confident then.put your money where your mouth is. Since it is some Estonian approved lab lol. Go through the underground threads, even almost all small time and big time UGL's pay for lab testing and gauruntee the quality of the product. But your want to be gmp gear you wont stand behind. It tells us all we need to know. You have a sales pitch to sell not quality product.

Again you are all talk. Save it for your newbies that dont rely on facts.

I disagree and I say you are a troll. How is GMP in estonia nothing? They are a country with a medical system. Just because they are not 1st world does not mean it has no validity. If it meants nothing why are people paying up the ass for pharmacy grade products from third world countries like Iran, Egypt for Iran test, karachis? They are all like estonia if not even worse. It obviously means something. You rather use bathtub gear vs gmp approved in a third world country?? lol.

PG has posted Labmax tests on multiple products on his first page.You clearly must be blind.

And you said almost all UGLS pay for lab testing and guarantee quality??? Haha you funny man. I decided to shop with PG because no one guarantees anything and no one has paid for lab testing. He stood out as the most legit guy because he had a ton of pharma grade products plus he had proof of his lab being gmp made. You say pg is all talk and all labs pay for testing and guarantee quality?? dude we in canada not international. Please show me one analytical lab test from a CANADIAN source here that has lab tests done by any company aside from Jano who is a fraud. PG is actually the only one that has testing from someone that ISN’T a fraud. You won’t show me anyone because there isn’t anyone...trust me I know because I am have researched all the sources on here and other forums because I want to use the best stuff for myself. So here you are trying to bash a source that has no complaints from his clients, has many legit pharmacy products and has most legit testing for his ugls brand than all the other labs?? Dude your a troll lol.

 

[Steve84]

I disagree and I say you are a troll. How is GMP in estonia nothing? They are a country with a medical system. Just because they are not 1st world does not mean it has no validity. If it meants nothing why are people paying up the ass for pharmacy grade products from third world countries like Iran, Egypt for Iran test, karachis? They are all like estonia if not even worse. It obviously means something. You rather use bathtub gear vs gmp approved in a third world country?? lol.

PG has posted Labmax tests on multiple products on his first page.You clearly must be blind.

And you said almost all UGLS pay for lab testing and guarantee quality??? Haha you funny man. I decided to shop with PG because no one guarantees anything and no one has paid for lab testing. He stood out as the most legit guy because he had a ton of pharma grade products plus he had proof of his lab being gmp made. You say pg is all talk and all labs pay for testing and guarantee quality?? dude we in canada not international. Please show me one analytical lab test from a CANADIAN source here that has lab tests done by any company aside from Jano who is a fraud. PG is actually the only one that has testing from someone that ISN’T a fraud. You won’t show me anyone because there isn’t anyone...trust me I know because I am have researched all the sources on here and other forums because I want to use the best stuff for myself. So here you are trying to bash a source that has no complaints from his clients, has many legit pharmacy products and has most legit testing for his ugls brand than all the other labs?? Dude your a troll lol.

You are a fucking moron.
Global is NOT pharma. Global is UGL like the rest.

 

[movingiron88]

You are a fucking moron.
Global is NOT pharma. Global is UGL like the rest.

These newbies are so blinded by the gmp gimmick. That's the only thing this guy falls back to in every arguement. And yes most sources reimburse for testing and will gauruntee replacement or reimbursement if it does not test correct.

 

[Steve84]

These newbies are so blinded by the gmp gimmick. That's the only thing this guy falls back to in every arguement. And yes most sources reimburse for testing and will gauruntee replacement or reimbursement if it does not test correct.

Gmp is cool and nice but doesn't mean shit!!!
But I have to say Pharmacom fully automated was one reason I've used them for years and if it wasn't for customs I'd use them more.

But they stand behind their products. If it's GMP there is no way dosing should be that far off. Just goes to show same standard show as everyone else.
If they test raws, hardly is no excuse.

 

[onetwonine]

LOL, I live with a fuckin doctor.

Keep shilling kid. You have no idea what I do for a living.

You live with a PHARMACIST and a fuckin doctor?

Is this your way of telling us you live with yoir parents?

You got a dentist at your spot too big dawg?

 

[Sdryx]

You live with a PHARMACIST and a fuckin doctor?

Is this your way of telling us you live with yoir parents?

You got a dentist at your spot too big dawg?

A pharmacist IS a doctor. And she’s fuckin hot bro.

Manages my meds AND does my glute injections for practice!

How do you think I can spot a bullshit ass pharmacy when I see one? You sure as fuck can’t.

 

[onetwonine]

A pharmacist IS a doctor. And she’s fuckin hot bro.

Manages my meds AND does my glute injections for practice!

How do you think I can spot a bullshit ass pharmacy when I see one? You sure as fuck can’t.

A doctor of pharmacy is a doctor like a doctor of jurisprudence is a doctor.

Not a doctor.

You sound like you're in love though.

Its sweet.

Does she buy you nice things?

 

[Test_Subject]

A pharmacist IS a doctor.

Technically, yes, but not of medicine as you implied.

Physicists are also doctors.

I live next door to a lawyer. Does that count as credit towards my law degree?

 

[Freakmidd]

Technically, yes, but not of medicine as you implied.

Physicists are also doctors.

I live next door to a lawyer. Does that count as credit towards my law degree?

It does if she's hot.. lol

 

[CanadaHumanGrade]

Sorry for my absence everyone.

@Wayacrucis - I appreciate your comments. Though as Steve said, Global Pharma is not Pharma grade like many of my Canadian Pharmacy products. They are produced at a GMP facility though like you did mention, so yes - at least in my opinion they are a level above UGL clearly, same as say Pharmacom Labs, but they are not Pharma grade.

@Steve84 PharmaCom is a great lab and I am sure many Canadians would use them if our customs was not brutal. Global Pharma pricing is give or take the same as PharmaCom when it comes to their US Domestic lines.

DNP is on it’s way. I have discussed it with my manufacturers and we have decided to go with 100mg 100 capsules as opposed to 200mg 50 capsules. Much safer this way. It will be made by Pharma Tech labs.

Global Pharma Equipoise is on it’s way...and possibly Proviron.

 

[Sdryx]

A doctor of pharmacy is a doctor like a doctor of jurisprudence is a doctor.

Not a doctor.

You sound like you're in love though.

Its sweet.

Does she buy you nice things?

A doctor is not a doctor. Did I hear you right? You sound jealous.

You sound like you don’t understand the difference between a physician and a doctor.

In a thread of a pharmacy... yes, the doctor I live with is highly relevant here. That lawyer reference is stupid.