Well now that's another story then. I feel like if you are going to run the Var it would need to be dosed twice a day in order to be efficient. Pre workout doses of orals do work, but you won't get the same effect as you would if you keep your blood levels more stable by multi dosing. Either run them both at 50, or drop your winny down to 25mg in those last 4 weeks with Var, and run the Var at 50mg dosed at 25mg twice daily. This will give you better results imo. Now, if you got a hold of some lady var, or pharma Var, you could run it at 25mg dosed multiple times throughout the day. I've run single dose orals, and I dont like the results. Just my .02