Masculinity

[Mac11wildcat]

How about other Christian religions? How man pedophile incidents regarding Baptist or Protestant ministers have you heard of? Those religions are generally more tolerant with regards to homosexuality.

I hate arguing religion because I hve no relevant experience. I am not religious and, if we’re being frank, it’s my opinion that organized religion is one of the biggest issues in the world today. It was a mechanism for controlling a population disguised as teaching morality.

And as you say, end up preaching hate because a book told them to. For Catholics and Christians its the gays. For Islam it’s literally everyone that isn’t Muslim (+ the gays and a bunch of other shit).

I can gaurantee those other religions have similar issues of some sort. The Catholic Church has just done the absolute worst job in handling this crisis.

 

[Professor Karman]

They are the same. Because parenting being pushed away from raising boys and girls as genetically different, both physically and mentally, and challenging them as such is now frowned upon.

FFS we have lesbian parents “identifying” as a straight couple making their son transition to a girl with hormones at age 5.

The shit is not ok.

I teach college, many kids nowadays have never had to face a difficult situation on their own. This is an issue regarding parents being overbearing/overprotective and has less to do with allowing Johnny to play with a doll when he was 3 years old...

 

[Professor Karman]

I hate arguing religion because I hve no relevant experience. I am not religious and, if we’re being frank, it’s my opinion that organized religion is one of the biggest issues in the world today. It was a mechanism for controlling a population disguised as teaching morality.

And as you say, end up preaching hate because a book told them to. For Catholics and Christians its the gays. For Islam it’s literally everyone that isn’t Muslim (+ the gays and a bunch of other shit).

I can gaurantee those other religions have similar issues of some sort. The Catholic Church has just done the absolute worst job in handling this crisis.

I agree with most of this.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

I teach college, many kids nowadays have never had to face a difficult situation on their own. This is an issue regarding parents being overbearing/overprotective and has less to do with allowing Johnny to play with a doll when he was 3 years old...

College age kids were still raised before this become semi-ok. Wait 10 years.

But I do agree. It is a bigger issue. But I see them heavily related.

 

[Sp2.0]

The sissification has been gradually happening for years. Small scale example, I remember having fist fights from grade school up. You'd fight and be playing basketball together the next day, no big deal. Now if my kids fight it's possible expulsion and don't say anything that'll hurt someone's feelers or you're a bully.

We've been heading this direction for a while and unfortunately I don't see this train getting back on the tracks.

PS. Get off my lawn

 

[Professor Karman]

College age kids were still raised before this become semi-ok. Wait 10 years.

But I do agree. It is a bigger issue. But I see them heavily related.

A few years ago I taught a class where I gave poor grades to almost the whole class. The class, for whatever reason, just wasn't able to understand the material properly. I had taught this class since 2006 with the material, and teaching methods, being almost the same. So this class, who did poorly, decided it was my fault that they did poorly and that I was failing them on purpose. They

The sissification has been gradually happening for years. Small scale example, I remember having fist fights from grade school up. You'd fight and be playing basketball together the next day, no big deal. Now if my kids fight it's possible expulsion and don't say anything that'll hurt someone's feelers or you're a bully.

We've been heading this direction for a while and unfortunately I don't see this train getting back on the tracks.

PS. Get off my lawn

Agreed we use to fight on the playground all the time. Teachers would come over and tell us to break it up and that would be it. The problem nowadays is that if a parent catches wind of it they would high tail into the Principals office and complain. Parents 30 to 40 years ago spent a lot less time micromanaging their kids lives. That is the main problem, if you don't do that today you are looked at as a horrible parent. What? You let your kid play in the neigborhood by themselves? What is wrong with you? They could be picked up by a stranger or fall out of tree. Child abduction is no higher now then it was 30 years ago, the problem is that 24 hour news stations make such events seem more likely, when in reality they are not. Again allow your kid to take chances and sometimes fail. When they become adults they will utilize those opportunities when real-life challenges present themselves.

 

[Urgentfury12]

The left is the scum of the earth. Divoid of any morals, common sense or guts. What else needs to be said ?

 

[Professor Karman]

The left is the scum of the earth. Divoid of any morals, common sense or guts. What else needs to be said ?

There are scum on both sides..Eliminating welfare, e.g. effectively telling a kid who through no fault of their own were born to incapable parents, that they are not worth societies' time, isn't exactly moral high ground in my opinion. If only those parents had used birth control...oh wait.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

There is a HUGE differnce between public assistance and a welfare state.

The left wants to create dependency. Just look at...every major city. The black community. Etc.

I don’t consider the extremes on either side any more moral. And I don’t think most left leaning individuals are amoral (same for right leaning). But the intent and the result of a policy are two VASTLY different things that the left doesn’t seem to get.

“No, socialism will work THIS time.”

 

[T-Bagger]

There are scum on both sides..Eliminating welfare, e.g. effectively telling a kid who through no fault of their own were born to incapable parents, that they are not worth societies' time, isn't exactly moral high ground in my opinion. If only those parents had used birth control...oh wait.

Why use birth control when abortion is tax payer funded and a great birth control method?

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Something I hope we can agree on...

This abortion to term is SICK. I am generally pro choice, but that is murdering a fully developed human infant and NO medical conditions at that stage require killing the baby. They need to deliver the dead baby anyways; it may as well be living and adopted.

 

[Urgentfury12]

There are scum on both sides..Eliminating welfare, e.g. effectively telling a kid who through no fault of their own were born to incapable parents, that they are not worth societies' time, isn't exactly moral high ground in my opinion. If only those parents had used birth control...oh wait.

You’re talking points are retarded at best. Against the death penalty but for killing the defenseless up till day of birth, While cheering for it. I could go on all day and it wouldn’t do any good, you people are absent of any ethics.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Easy boys...

 

[Urgentfury12]

Easy boys...

Big brother I assure you I’m going easy. You will know when I unleash hell on them

 

[Professor Karman]

Easy boys...

He started it. I generally don't talk politics..the discussions usually end up nowhere and people just end up resorting to insults.

 

[Professor Karman]

There is a HUGE differnce between public assistance and a welfare state.

The left wants to create dependency. Just look at...every major city. The black community. Etc.

I don’t consider the extremes on either side any more moral. And I don’t think most left leaning individuals are amoral (same for right leaning). But the intent and the result of a policy are two VASTLY different things that the left doesn’t seem to get.

“No, socialism will work THIS time.”

Who said anything about socialism. To me the idea of socialism is the same as those who cry free market. If everybody was playing fair these things might work. As we know, this will never happen.

My take on all of this is we need to better educate our society as a whole and a lot of the issues will resolve themselves.

 

[Urgentfury12]

Who said anything about socialism. To me the idea of socialism is the same as those who cry free market. If everybody was playing fair these things might work.

My take on all of this is we need to better educate our society as a whole and a lot of the issues will resolve themselves.

Educated by who ? The current horde of communists that are teachers now ? I’d rather see this country burnt to its foundation then continue to watch it die a slow painful death. Pretty sad comment coming from a guy that spent his whole adult life serving it.

 

[Professor Karman]

Educated by who ? The current horde of communists that are teachers now ? I’d rather see this country burnt to its foundation then continue to watch it die a slow painful death. Pretty sad comment coming from a guy that spent his whole adult life serving it.

You are allowed to have your opinion. I personally feel that a better educated society can only improve things. Pay teachers better and maybe they all won't be communists

 

[Iron Vett]

I am not condoning anybody looking down on others for their behavior, as long that behavior is not harmful, male or female. Women taking offense to you (or me for that matter) for wanting to have big muscles is no better than you or I looking down at men who want to dress feminine.

My point regarding the catholic church is that being homosexual in the Catholic church is looked down upon. If these priests had been allowed to be themselves (e.g. live life as homosexual) without the guilt associated with it, put on them by their religion, the perhaps a lot of this stuff wouldn't have happened. 30 years ago if you were a homosexual catholic, your choices were to become a priest and have nobody question why you never had a girlfriend or go out into society and somehow try to hide the fact that you were homosexual. Ask yourself why no other religions have this problem..I am pretty sure it isn't because there are more homosexual catholics compared to other religions. BTW I am Catholic...

If the Catholic Church is going to be brought into this argument then the topic must be dealt with according to the scriptures that Christianity is built on.


1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ESV / 5,680 helpful votes
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.



Homosexuality is looked down upon due to the fact that it is a sin.

I believe it was a mistake to not allow priests to take a wife. This only led to sexually deviants becoming priests because of the lifestyle that is being provided. The Catholic Church is just beginning to feel the affects of this bad decision. It will take years to straighten that mess out.

I am a Non-Denominational Evangelical Christian and believe that scripture should determine the actions taken by a proclaimed Christian. And I do realize that my lifestyle of body building goes against part of this doctrine due to
Vanity. But that transgression is for me to deal with and not the responsibility of others to tell me how I am supposed to view those actions.

 

[Iron Vett]

You are allowed to have your opinion. I personally feel that a better educated society can only improve things. Pay teachers better and maybe they all won't be communists

And don’t get me started on teachers. I researched salaries when I chose a profession to be educated for and didn’t feel that salaries should be raised once I entered into the workforce. Anyone who decided to become a teacher knew what the pay was going to be when they started their education. If someone doesn’t like that pay, become something else.

Oh, and my sister is a college professor and agrees with me completely on this matter.