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[MisterSuperGod]

Yup 200mg once a week. But it was all different because i switched from PPL test E to their cyp now most recent Alliance cyp.

Compared to the other high of 680, 608 isn't too far off. The question is, which one is more accurate? Was the 680 from spot on? That would make the 608 a tad underdosed, or then again it could be spot on and the 680 was overdosed.

At least you have a pretty rough idea now. So with all things being the same (pinning schedule, draw time, etc.) If you score a 500 on someone else's Test, there's a good chance it isn't quite 200 mg that you're putting in per week.

 

[ScruffMcBuff]

Is this an accurate summary of what you did?

You pin 200 mg/week on Monday and you had blood test Monday morning before you pinned so bloods were drawn roughly 7 days after your 4th week pin?

Yeah that’s what i was always told do while on trt since i only pin once a week.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

It's a no name lab and if you were actually taking test c for four weeks and didn't miss a dose the bloods should reflect that. I would of waited until six weeks passed before pulling bloods but either way they should of been higher.

How can make that determination? He doesn't have pharma TRT blood work to compare these to.

If he scored 680 at what he believed is 200 mg/wk from another source, then how much higher should he be with this sources Test?

He scored 608. That's pretty damn close and i assure you, not even *Alex Blake - the king of the feelz would be able to tell a difference between 72 points.

*(Not tagging a filthy shill into this thread.)

 

[balco]

How can make that determination? He doesn't have pharma TRT blood work to compare these to.

If he scored 680 at what he believed is 200 mg/wk from another source, then how much higher should he be with this sources Test?

He scored 608. That's pretty damn close and i assure you, not even *Alex Blake - the king of the feelz would be able to tell a difference between 72 points.

*(Not tagging a filthy shill into this thread.)

Maybe your right but I've personally never seen bloods from someone on 200mg/week of test bloods like that. I've seen poor responders on the r/testosterone subreddit but never this low.

 

[balco]

How can make that determination? He doesn't have pharma TRT blood work to compare these to.

If he scored 680 at what he believed is 200 mg/wk from another source, then how much higher should he be with this sources Test?

He scored 608. That's pretty damn close and i assure you, not even *Alex Blake - the king of the feelz would be able to tell a difference between 72 points.

*(Not tagging a filthy shill into this thread.)

There could be more to the story as well.

 

[T-Bagger]

Maybe your right but I've personally never seen bloods from someone on 200mg/week of test bloods like that. I've seen poor responders on the r/testosterone subreddit but never this low.

I have to wonder if pinning twice a week would raise those numbers.

 

[balco]

I have to wonder if pinning twice a week would raise those numbers.

That's definitely was I was thinking, maybe that's what would of pushed his levels up that much more.

 

[ScruffMcBuff]

Maybe your right but I've personally never seen bloods from someone on 200mg/week of test bloods like that. I've seen poor responders on the r/testosterone subreddit but never this low.

Correct me if i’m wrong because i’ve been researching on these forums for awhile and ever since i’ve been on self trt for more than a year now i’m still learning as i go. judging by some of these comments, if you’re taking the same dose but different brands of UGLS should your levels be around the same?

 

[balco]

Correct me if i’m wrong because i’ve been researching on these forums for awhile and ever since i’ve been on self trt for more than a year now i’m still learning as i go. judging by some of these comments, if you’re taking the same dose but different brands of UGLS should your levels be around the same?

Absolutely, but there could be a little wiggle room for under/over dosing as every single batch isn't tested and they don't have the tech to be that exact. Did you take bloods prior to the 4 weeks of allegiance test?

 

[T-Bagger]

Correct me if i’m wrong because i’ve been researching on these forums for awhile and ever since i’ve been on self trt for more than a year now i’m still learning as i go. judging by some of these comments, if you’re taking the same dose but different brands of UGLS should your levels be around the same?

As long as the UGL Test is properly dosed, yes, they should be similar.

 

[ScruffMcBuff]

Absolutely, but there could be a little wiggle room for under/over dosing as every single batch isn't tested and they don't have the tech to be that exact. Did you take bloods prior to the 4 weeks of allegiance test?

yeah i posted my last 2 sets on the last page

 

[bambam333]

its tough being that you dont have a pharma trt baseline and only ppl labs previously which who knows how accurate those can be but possibly run them again after 6 weeks and you can try at the 72 hour mark which would be peak concentration and see where that brings you

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Yeah that’s what i was always told do while on trt since i only pin once a week.

I think your 608 number makes sense then. Pinning once a week, you’re going to get more pronounced peaks and valleys in you blood test levels and having your blood drawn 7 days after your last pin is when your levels are in the low area. Also being only 4 weeks in, the levels may not have reached a stabilized level either (that depends on how an individual responds).

MESO recommended blood testing protocol is:

Duration: At least 6 weeks into cycle (I realize these esters can stabilize sooner than 6 weeks but this will leave no doubt. It’s pretty close to most members mid-cycle labs also.

Blood Draw: Blood should be drawn at 48hr +/- 12hrs post pin. The goal is to be as close to 48hrs as possible.

 

[ScruffMcBuff]

I think your 608 number makes sense then. Pinning once a week, you’re going to get more pronounced peaks and valleys in you blood test levels and having your blood drawn 7 days after your last pin is when your levels are in the low area. Also being only 4 weeks in, the levels may not have reached a stabilized level either (that depends on how an individual responds).

MESO recommended blood testing protocol is:

Duration: At least 6 weeks into cycle (I realize these esters can stabilize sooner than 6 weeks but this will leave no doubt. It’s pretty close to most members mid-cycle labs also.

Blood Draw: Blood should be drawn at 48hr +/- 12hrs post pin. The goal is to be as close to 48hrs as possible.

Appreciate it. I’m hoping others will post their results also. Since i started tren ace i’m going to run it for 8 weeks. What is the correct amount of time to wait after to take bloods?

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Appreciate it. I’m hoping others will post their results also. Since i started tren ace i’m going to run it for 8 weeks. What is the correct amount of time to wait after to take bloods?

You can get a blood test in the middle of the 8 weeks if you want to check your health markers but the Tren itself won’t show up.

If you want an accurate reading for your estrogen make sure and get it tested with the LC/MS method. It costs more but Tren interferes and falsely skews the standard estrogen test making it way high and meaningless.

 

[TheAnabolicStore]

Results are in. This is 4 weeks of being on Alliance test cyp TRT dose of 200mg once a week with .5 adex also once a week. I didn’t take my weekly adex on week 4 so not sure that would make a difference with estradiol. I now added tren ace and going to run that a few weeks to see how it goes. once i stop the tren i’ll take another set of bloods.

Firstly, thank you for taking the time to post your bloods. I am glad that you are feeling good and responding well to the Alliance Cyp.

Regarding your T Levels as many others have addressed in this thread there could be several reasons behind why they are not as high as some would expect on your dosage. (Frequency of pins, timing of blood test, etc)

To address @balco 's concerns;
I am a firm believer in our Alliance gear, we have never received any negative feedback and we constantly communicate with our customers. As you can see above even Scruff is happy with the way his TRT is going and feels good.

We have had 18 redemptions of the MESO discount code on our website so I'm very hopeful that many more people will come forward with blood works.

We are offering $150 store credit to anyone who posts blood works as per the regular MESO guidelines.

MESO recommended blood testing protocol is:

Duration: At least 6 weeks into cycle (I realize these esters can stabilize sooner than 6 weeks but this will leave no doubt. It’s pretty close to most members mid-cycle labs also.

Blood Draw: Blood should be drawn at 48hr +/- 12hrs post pin. The goal is to be as close to 48hrs as possible.

 

[TheAnabolicStore]

What are the rules regarding competitions / giveaways / raffles on MESO?
I've not seen anything along those lines so I'm guessing it's a no go...

But we have a ton of this Organon Sustanon sitting around so we might as well bless the MESO community if we're allowed

 

[T-Bagger]

What are the rules regarding competitions / giveaways / raffles on MESO?
I've not seen anything along those lines so I'm guessing it's a no go...

But we have a ton of this Organon Sustanon sitting around so we might as well bless the MESO community if we're allowed

You’re definitely allowed to do contests/raffles/etc. for giveaways. So in the words of RHCP: Give it away, give it away, give it away now...

 

[Joedaddy5150]

You’re definitely allowed to do contests/raffles/etc. for giveaways. So in the words of RHCP: Give it away, give it away, give it away now...

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[T-Bagger]

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