[Source] DNP ShreddedLabs

[Trenhrd]

Dantrolene is treatment for malignant hyperthermia, how does DNP kill? Hyperthermia. There is little evidence it causes MODS. One documented case because DNP presents as salicylate poisoning and users are rarely able to admit what they took or likely to admit it. There’s also the issue with PHI, many cases aren’t tracked due to this.

 

[janoshik]

Dantrolene is treatment for malignant hyperthermia, how does DNP kill? Hyperthermia. There is little evidence it causes MODS. One documented case because DNP presents as salicylate poisoning and users are rarely able to admit what they took or likely to admit it. There’s also the issue with PHI, many cases aren’t tracked due to this.

Malignant hyperthermia does not equal hyperthermia from DNP.

Completely different mechanism.

Dantrolene won't help.

End of story.

 

[Eman]

Dantrolene is treatment for malignant hyperthermia, how does DNP kill? Hyperthermia.

I'm aware of what dantrolene does and what DNP does... Which is why I also referred to it as more of a treatment than an antidote. It's not counteracting anything.

One documented case because DNP presents as salicylate poisoning and users are rarely able to admit what they took or likely to admit it.

I said there was only one successful case, just from recollection. There is at least one other where dantrolene was completely ineffective.

My point is, there is no known antidote to DNP like you stated there was.

 

[Trenhrd]

The etiology is different but the result is the same. Salicylate overdose is IDENTICAL to a DNP overdose and dantrolene is the drug of choice. End of story .

 

[janoshik]

The etiology is different but the result is the same. Salicylate overdose is IDENTICAL to a DNP overdose and dantrolene is the drug of choice. End of story .

Err.

How many salicylate poisonings have you treated in your life?
I did one (with a supervision) and I can assure you, dantrolene was not mentioned once.

To add a quote to support my stance:
"Theoretically, dantrolene is not expected to be effective for hyperthermia caused by conditions other than muscular hyperactivity, such as increased metabolic rate (eg, salicylate or dinitrophenol poisoning), "

 

[janoshik]

I mean... with salicylate poisoning you'd be long dead because of acidosis before you'd reach body temp that was risky afaik...

 

[nlite2k]

hi was planning on running a 2 week DNP cycle, 200mg a day for week 1, 400 a day for week 2 (assuming I can handle it.) I'm on a low dose of test C and Tren E (150ew/200ew) and 50mg of Anavar also. Part of me is wondering if I'm better off doing 3 weeks at 200mg instead because I'd rather not tank my strength. I guess I'll see how I handle it, and prioritize getting in and out of the gym quick concentrating on the money compound moves in the 5-8 rep range and save the BS pump work for after the DNP run is over. If I could lose ~8lbs of fat when the shooting's over that would be aces.


^Mostly just putting this here to see if anybody sees red flags in my expectations/plans


Thanks

 

[Eman]

hi was planning on running a 2 week DNP cycle, 200mg a day for week 1, 400 a day for week 2 (assuming I can handle it.) I'm on a low dose of test C and Tren E (150ew/200ew) and 50mg of Anavar also. Part of me is wondering if I'm better off doing 3 weeks at 200mg instead because I'd rather not tank my strength. I guess I'll see how I handle it, and prioritize getting in and out of the gym quick concentrating on the money compound moves in the 5-8 rep range and save the BS pump work for after the DNP run is over. If I could lose ~8lbs of fat when the shooting's over that would be aces.


^Mostly just putting this here to see if anybody sees red flags in my expectations/plans


Thanks

You're all backwards, imo.

Don't run all that other shit, especially tren. Lol at the BS pump work comment... You're GOING to lose strength, pump work is going to be your bread and butter.

 

[Trenhrd]

The argument here that treatment vs antidote is trivial. It is NOT a reversal agent because DNP is a POISON not a medication. It is an antidote because it combats the poisons effects. Please google antidote vs reversal agent.

How many salicylate ODs have I treated? Hundreds, you’re usually in MODS long before hyperthermia hits but dantrolene IS an effective treatment or this along with several interventions. Look at any current critical care research. I’ve been in an emergency setting for over 10 years now. the point here is that there is only one documented case BECAUSE DNP presents as a salicylate overdose (falsely elevated markers for salicylate OD. Please google this) thus many have been treated as such and documented as this type of OD. You guys sit here with no credibility or sources when a simple google search of quantitative studies would show you how misled you are. I have no interest in arguing about this further.

 

[johntt44]

hi was planning on running a 2 week DNP cycle, 200mg a day for week 1, 400 a day for week 2 (assuming I can handle it.) I'm on a low dose of test C and Tren E (150ew/200ew) and 50mg of Anavar also. Part of me is wondering if I'm better off doing 3 weeks at 200mg instead because I'd rather not tank my strength. I guess I'll see how I handle it, and prioritize getting in and out of the gym quick concentrating on the money compound moves in the 5-8 rep range and save the BS pump work for after the DNP run is over. If I could lose ~8lbs of fat when the shooting's over that would be aces.


^Mostly just putting this here to see if anybody sees red flags in my expectations/plans


Thanks

You want to lift heavy as possible but on dnp it will amount to "pump work". I'm just on trt dose of test going on 16 days and lost close to 20lbs. I'm doing cardio and lifting when I can. I'm at 600mg a day now though.

 

[johntt44]

I don’t take anything personally, i appreciate the concern! I actually have a pretty strong medical background and don’t go into things blindly. I have access to IV fluids in my own home if needed. I did run 400/day for the first three days and DNP does have an antidote for OD contrary to popular belief, you need to get treated ASAP though. Not that I’d ever want it used on me, mind you. I just seem to have a very high tolerance for the stuff. I measure my temp twice a day, always get labs done one week in, and pay attention to any respiratory changes due to dosage. DNP DOES affect breathing due to metabolic demand and acidosis in its acute phase of toxicity. Breathing and temp are two major indicators of how your body is managing the dose. I’ve not had a single episode of vomiting or diarrhea either.

My breathing and temp are fine at 600mg a day. I've been riding my bike 12mi a day in 85-90f with no problems. I just keep up with my liquids and electrolytes.

 

[Eman]

guys sit here with no credibility or sources when a simple google search of quantitative studies would show you how misled you are.

Dude, you have just as much credibility as I have.. none.

Studies regarding what, exactly? I'm not sure what you're even trying to express at this point. You didn't post any sources... You just chastised me for not posting sources instead.

Again, my point remains... Dantrolene is not a proven antidote for DNP. You telling me that it's just not reported as such is quite honestly the worst argument I've ever heard on the forum, and that is saying something.

 

[janoshik]

The argument here that treatment vs antidote is trivial. It is NOT a reversal agent because DNP is a POISON not a medication. It is an antidote because it combats the poisons effects. Please google antidote vs reversal agent.

How many salicylate ODs have I treated? Hundreds, you’re usually in MODS long before hyperthermia hits but dantrolene IS an effective treatment or this along with several interventions. Look at any current critical care research. I’ve been in an emergency setting for over 10 years now. the point here is that there is only one documented case BECAUSE DNP presents as a salicylate overdose (falsely elevated markers for salicylate OD. Please google this) thus many have been treated as such and documented as this type of OD. You guys sit here with no credibility or sources when a simple google search of quantitative studies would show you how misled you are. I have no interest in arguing about this further.

And have you ever used dantrolene for salicylate poisoning? It's not my field of specialization, but I don't think it's used for that.

Regarding sources you have provided less than I did, it appears to me.

I'll be happy to see the tons of research on that and be ashamed.

 

[shreddedlabs]

update to price list t3 just got sold out we should be restocked sometime next week.

Price List:
DNP 200mg - $.40 per cap
DNP 100mg - $.25 per cap
DNP raws - $1.50 per gram
Albuterol 4mg 30 count - $10
Tiromel T3 25mcg - $.50 per tab(SOLD OUT)
AP Clen 40mcg -$.45 per tab
T3 100mcg/mL 30mL - $20

Shipping $10 or free when order over $50



Also going to be taking some time off at the end of next week for a few days.

 

[88general88]

Err.

How many salicylate poisonings have you treated in your life?
I did one (with a supervision) and I can assure you, dantrolene was not mentioned once.

To add a quote to support my stance:
"Theoretically, dantrolene is not expected to be effective for hyperthermia caused by conditions other than muscular hyperactivity, such as increased metabolic rate (eg, salicylate or dinitrophenol poisoning), "

Look at the big brain on Jano !!!

 

[88general88]

Sorry to interrupt, but once again, another successful touch down from our boy. Thank you

 

[88general88]

update to price list t3 just got sold out we should be restocked sometime next week.

Price List:
DNP 200mg - $.40 per cap
DNP 100mg - $.25 per cap
DNP raws - $1.50 per gram
Albuterol 4mg 30 count - $10
Tiromel T3 25mcg - $.50 per tab(SOLD OUT)
AP Clen 40mcg -$.45 per tab
T3 100mcg/mL 30mL - $20

Shipping $10 or free when order over $50



Also going to be taking some time off at the end of next week for a few days.

We always appreciate communication, please make sure to drop a line on the thread. When everyone can expect you to be back up and running, just to bypass any confusion.

 

[Kracken]

After a hiatus from this site, I just saw this thread and read all 21 pages. I did notice that SL never did mention where he sources the DNP, China or otherwise. I would be interested to know because, depending upon the ultimate source, there can be some heavy metals in it.

Lots of great discussion about how to dose it and sides, but I was surprised that no one mentioned the possibility of peripheral neuropathy (PN).

I have never tried SL's product. However, I'm doing a run now, and I have done two others in the past. The first in Jan 2018 was super successful. The second, last july, was 12 days. Each time I dropped about 0.5 pounds per day on average. The second time, however, I quit it early because it felt very different than the first.

The first run, I had all the normally reported symptoms, especially night sweating. The second time, there was none of that, just a lot of nausea, diarrhea, headaches, lots of flu like symptoms, even though I was taking caps from the same order as the prior run.

This time, I started May 1 at 250mg per day. I pretty much feel nothing, but I'm not anxious to double the dosage after last time. I may add a 250mg cap every other day, or I may discontinue for a week and restart. I managed to catch a nasty cold two days ago. Decisions decisions...

Anyhow I'll probably pick up some 200mg caps from SL and see how well those work for me.

 

[88general88]

After a hiatus from this site, I just saw this thread and read all 21 pages. I did notice that SL never did mention where he sources the DNP, China or otherwise. I would be interested to know because, depending upon the ultimate source, there can be some heavy metals in it.

Lots of great discussion about how to dose it and sides, but I was surprised that no one mentioned the possibility of peripheral neuropathy (PN).

I have never tried SL's product. However, I'm doing a run now, and I have done two others in the past. The first in Jan 2018 was super successful. The second, last july, was 12 days. Each time I dropped about 0.5 pounds per day on average. The second time, however, I quit it early because it felt very different than the first.

The first run, I had all the normally reported symptoms, especially night sweating. The second time, there was none of that, just a lot of nausea, diarrhea, headaches, lots of flu like symptoms, even though I was taking caps from the same order as the prior run.

This time, I started May 1 at 250mg per day. I pretty much feel nothing, but I'm not anxious to double the dosage after last time. I may add a 250mg cap every other day, or I may discontinue for a week and restart. I managed to catch a nasty cold two days ago. Decisions decisions...

Anyhow I'll probably pick up some 200mg caps from SL and see how well those work for me.

In no way shape or form is this meant to sound shilling, but I have run SL DNP NOW TWO SEPERATE TIMES , the only thing I get from it is amazing results. None of those nasty side you mentioned. I am sorry that you had that experience. I have found that each time the lethargy has hugely impacted me. But as far as the other stuff, I cannot comment on his source I think that’s a question good for email, but think you will be really happy. Just remember he will be taking days off this week so if you do decide to order make sure you get with him before he takes off. Good luck brother

 

[Eman]

Lots of great discussion about how to dose it and sides, but I was surprised that no one mentioned the possibility of peripheral neuropathy (PN).

I'm not sure if I mentioned it in this thread but there was another DNP supplier thread that I touched on side effects to watch out for.

PN is a big one to be aware of, very good point.

The first run, I had all the normally reported symptoms, especially night sweating. The second time, there was none of that, just a lot of nausea, diarrhea, headaches, lots of flu like symptoms, even though I was taking caps from the same order as the prior run.

If you encounter this again, I suggest adjusting your diet. I've found that even minor adjustments can make a big difference sometimes... I actually experienced a very similar situation. First run felt fine, second felt not so good. Adding electrolytes, sticking with lean red meat, monitoring fiber and making sure I was including fruits were all things that had a positive impact.