Deca home brew help

[StillMind]

Hey guys, first time brewing deca. Followed a recipe I found on here of

BA 1%
BB 15%
Deca 300mg
10% over

It came out cloudy and suspected moisture so I filtered it twice with whatman .22. Then heated on a hot plate and it was clear. This morning it looked crashed so I vented and did the 10 sec microwave trick I found on here. Worked for one but made the other dark. Both are still not on par with my test E home brew quality.

A picture with my last Test E brew for clarity reference on the left.

Let me know what you guys think. Should I toss the dark middle one?

Powder also came melted and then solidified to a wax.

 

[penche]

Your BB in my opinion should’ve been a bit higher. Around 18% for 300mg plus your 10%. I don’t believe the middle dark one is bad if you filtered it. Could be oxidized? The cloudyness I suspect moisture as well.

 

[Monstar]

Agree with Penche.

Also...I haven't had deca melt and resolidfy on me. I think melting point is well over 100c. Test E...sure...Equipose...yeah. Anyone else find that odd?

 

[StillMind]

Thanks for the response guys. I put them on a hot plate and vented them last night. The one on the far right looks great today. The middle has a better color but still cloudy. Going to throw it in the oven later and see if I can get rid of the rest of the moisture.

Your BB in my opinion should’ve been a bit higher. Around 18% for 300mg plus your 10%. I don’t believe the middle dark one is bad if you filtered it. Could be oxidized? The cloudyness I suspect moisture as well.

Would you recommend brewing the cloudy vial again and add a little BB? Wonder if that would kill two birds with one stone, regarding the moisture and suspension.

 

[Robfromga]

For first brewers 18/2 is a good starting point. IMO.
It's don't going to cause any injection pain and it makes pretty much everything hold.

Where'd you get that recipe from? Seems a little low in solvent for 300mg

 

[Iron Vett]

For first brewers 18/2 is a good starting point. IMO.
It's don't going to cause any injection pain and it makes pretty much everything hold.

Where'd you get that recipe from? Seems a little low in solvent for 300mg

It’s sctually not that low in bb. I make deca at 300mg using 1/10. So 15 or 18%bb would hold for sure.

 

[AASraw]

Agree with Penche.

Also...I haven't had deca melt and resolidfy on me. I think melting point is well over 100c. Test E...sure...Equipose...yeah. Anyone else find that odd?

Melting point:
Test E 34-39C
Nandro deca 33-37C
EQ liquid character

As some friends' saying, it is better to control the temperature at no more 10% when to heat the oil. For example, to heat the Testo E oil at no more than 40C, EQ just at around room temperature or very little heat(35-40C). That can protect the Testo e from being damaged.

Edit: For moisture issue, try to open the vial when to heat it, to let the moisture out of the oil. A friend did not open the vial and it came back to cloudy after a night. LOL

 

[Robfromga]

It’s sctually not that low in bb. I make deca at 300mg using 1/10. So 15 or 18%bb would hold for sure.

Right. I'm saying as a new brewer start higher and work your way down to eliminate other variables.

 

[Monstar]

Melting point:
Test E 34-39C
Nandro deca 33-37C
EQ liquid character

As some friends' saying, it is better to control the temperature at no more 10% when to heat the oil. For example, to heat the Testo E oil at no more than 40C, EQ just at around room temperature or very little heat(35-40C). That can protect the Testo e from being damaged.

Edit: For moisture issue, try to open the vial when to heat it, to let the moisture out of the oil. A friend did not open the vial and it came back to cloudy after a night. LOL

Pubchem and chemspider have ND well above 100c. Some links below. I've also anecdotally seen shipments of ND in perfect fine powder where test e was liquid mash on arrival. Never did my own melt test but that source, chemicalbook.com listing your range, is likely wrong all the others are 112 and 118C

Nandrolone decanoate

Nandrolone | C18H26O2 | ChemSpider

Nandrolone decanoate - DrugBank

 

[Robfromga]

Pubchem and chemspider have ND well above 100c. Some links below. I've also anecdotally seen shipments of ND in perfect fine powder where test e was liquid mash on arrival. Never did my own melt test but that source, chemicalbook.com listing your range, is likely wrong all the others are 112 and 118C

Nandrolone decanoate

Nandrolone | C18H26O2 | ChemSpider

Nandrolone decanoate - DrugBank

"Tom" is more full of shit than a Christmas goose anyway.

I've never seen nandro melt at room temps. But that's is just me. Looks like 100°ish F melts it.

 

[Murho]

I just received what was supposed to be Nandrolone decanoate raw powder and it came as a liquid. The supplier said it was from heat during shipping, but that seems strange, and not sure why it wouldn't have turned solid again - it is 21C here.

 

[Mbaku53]

I just received my first order of raws and my ND was liquid just like the EQ. Haven't checked it again to see if it resolidified. I do live in a hot environment, though.

 

[Murho]

Mine has stayed liquid. I am going to brew what I need, and then put the rest in the freezer and see what happens to it.

 

[Euricomiranda]

@Murho , mine is also liquid looking deca. did you put it in the freezer? did it return to normal "hardened, stoned"?

 

[ickyrica]

@Murho , mine is also liquid looking deca. did you put it in the freezer? did it return to normal "hardened, stoned"?

ND isn't a liquid in raw form. It can be waxy though. I've brewed it more than my fair share of times and it's always been this way, even after shipping in the dead of summer. If I received liquid ND I might question what it is, purity etc.

 

[ickyrica]

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Nandrolone-decanoate

118c is the melting point. Apparently we're brewing on the sun

 

[Murho]

@Murho , mine is also liquid looking deca. did you put it in the freezer? did it return to normal "hardened, stoned"?

I put it in the refrigerator and it returned to a waxy state, and has remained that way even at room temperature.

 

[LooneyTuned]

Is deca 300ml pip free?

 

[Murho]

Is deca 300ml pip free?

It is for me

 

[Euricomiranda]

test - e, 300mg / 15% bb has anyone been successful?