HGH for bulking

[jJjburton]

I might of even made this thread already. I know I asked this alot. But does anybody use HGH for bulking and not cutting? How has it worked for you?

 

[jJjburton]

Another question would be, do you need to increase your calories even more with the addition of HGH?

If I bulk on 4000 cals without HGH, If I add 4000 cals with hgh would I get the same results for adding mass? Or would I need to eat even more. Sort of like when you add more AAS you actually need to eat more then when you use less.

 

[T&H]

Arent u having lethargy at 5iu? Why ask if you cant use that per day?

 

[jJjburton]

Arent u having lethargy at 5iu? Why ask if you cant use that per day?

Yes I dropped the HGH for 5 days. Lethargy is gone SO, I just started back up yesterday at 2 iu. I am going try and start there and work my way up. I hope its not as bad this time.

I will be doing 2 iu PM. Either before bed or Pre workout if I workout at night. Every month upping by 1 iu.

 

[T&H]

Yes I dropped the HGH for 5 days. Lethargy is gone SO, I just started back up yesterday at 2 iu. I am going try and start there and work my way up. I hope its not as bad this time.

I will be doing 2 iu PM. Either before bed or Pre workout if I workout at night. Every month upping by 1 iu.

Bulking requires more than 2iu. Maybe others can chime in.

 

[T&H]

I think @bolder mentioned bulking????

 

[gearwolf]

while hgh has many indirect benefits for a bulk, it's not anabolic by itself, so you should add insulin, which poses very little danger & cost if done correctly while yielding amazing results

 

[Logan44551]

The Most Effective Growth Hormone Protocol for Hypertrophy - MESO-Rx

 

[Mac11wildcat]

gHs benefit in “bulking” is the resultant IGF spike.

bulking protocols vary from source to source, but most common I have seen are:
-taking your weekly ED total and dividing it by 3 and only using it 3 day a week at the larger dose
-3 on 1 off

Combining with insulin is where gH gets its real legs for bulking purposes.

 

[gearwolf]

bulking protocols vary from source to source, but most common I have seen are:
-taking your weekly ED total and dividing it by 3 and only using it 3 day a week at the larger dose
-3 on 1 off

do you know why, per this protocol, high enough igf-1 levels would eventually result in hypertrophy when they won't at already supraphysiological levels? I've not come across high hgh / no insulin protocols myself at all

 

[Mac11wildcat]

do you know why, per this protocol, high enough igf-1 levels would eventually result in hypertrophy when they won't at already supraphysiological levels? I've not come across high hgh / no insulin protocols myself at all

I believe the link @Logan44551 posted explains it around page 14.

 

[jJjburton]

gHs benefit in “bulking” is the resultant IGF spike.

bulking protocols vary from source to source, but most common I have seen are:
-taking your weekly ED total and dividing it by 3 and only using it 3 day a week at the larger dose
-3 on 1 off

Combining with insulin is where gH gets its real legs for bulking purposes.

So if I took 9 iu a week ed. Your saying make that 3 iu but use only MWF.

or

a realistic value of 3 iu a day ed which is 21 iu a week. Then using 7 iu MWF.

is that right?

would you want to use the peak MWF on lifting days.

i have read the whole article of hyperteophy hgh use. 2x.

 

[jJjburton]

while hgh has many indirect benefits for a bulk, it's not anabolic by itself, so you should add insulin, which poses very little danger & cost if done correctly while yielding amazing results

Dam I really do not want to use insulin at all. I know nothing about it.

 

[jJjburton]

Would using a time released insulin with hgh better then a short/instant release?

 

[Mac11wildcat]

My undetsnding is, unless offsetting insulin resistance, fast acting near gH use is best.

 

[Logan44551]

Dam I really do not want to use insulin at all. I know nothing about it.

I wouldn't go anywhere near it if that's the case. Also no offense, but you seemed all over the place with doses and training in your old log. Unless a lot has changed since then you really need to get back to basics. I don't think you are anywhere near the level of needing to add insulin for bulking purposes. I know I'm certainly not, also that shit is dangerous if you don't know what your doing

 

[jJjburton]

I wouldn't go anywhere near it if that's the case. Also no offense, but you seemed all over the place with doses and training in your old log. Unless a lot has changed since then you really need to get back to basics. I don't think you are anywhere near the level of needing to add insulin for bulking purposes. I know I'm certainly not, also that shit is dangerous if you don't know what your doing

Yes I really am not looking to.

you are right though. I need to hone in on my skills and perfect them. I have a decent knowledge and phsique but I can do better, much better using the basic AAS and even gh. I am really no where close to what I want to look like. But I am 10x in the shape I used to be.

 

[jJjburton]

I wouldn't go anywhere near it if that's the case. Also no offense, but you seemed all over the place with doses and training in your old log. Unless a lot has changed since then you really need to get back to basics. I don't think you are anywhere near the level of needing to add insulin for bulking purposes. I know I'm certainly not, also that shit is dangerous if you don't know what your doing

I am still under 30 yrs old. So i dont want to fuck with anything else especially insulin stuff. I dont think I ever will. But I want to bulk up bad. I have really hit the diet differently and trying to gain.

 

[lilhawk]

If you're going to use GH for bulking, then you need to get up to at least 8iu or more, and insulin will be needed with it. As far as what type of insulin, Lantus is best, and humalog can be used as bolus doses with it if you are somewhat sensible about it. Since you said you know nothing about insulin do a lot of reading before you try using it. Lantus has no peak, and is pretty much impossible to go hypo with. Humalog is a different story, and if using the 2 together if you don't know what you are doing, then you can run into some problems. Please do a lot of research if you're planning on using insulin, and before you do it buy a glucometer. If anyone has been using GH for an extended period of time, they will make immediate gains in size, and fullness by adding metformin, and/or Lantus because it corrects the insulin resistance GH causes, and allows your muscle cells to store more nutrients/glycogen.

 

[jJjburton]

If you're going to use GH for bulking, then you need to get up to at least 8iu or more, and insulin will be needed with it. As far as what type of insulin, Lantus is best, and humalog can be used as bolus doses with it if you are somewhat sensible about it. Since you said you know nothing about insulin do a lot of reading before you try using it. Lantus has no peak, and is pretty much impossible to go hypo with. Humalog is a different story, and if using the 2 together if you don't know what you are doing, then you can run into some problems. Please do a lot of research if you're planning on using insulin, and before you do it buy a glucometer. If anyone has been using GH for an extended period of time, they will make immediate gains in size, and fullness by adding metformin, and/or Lantus because it corrects the insulin resistance GH causes, and allows your muscle cells to store more nutrients/glycogen.

How could you function and deal with the sides? that seems unrealistic.