There are certainly different feels to different strains so how would you explain that it they're all the same?
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You must like arguing and be one of those "one upper" type people who always has to have a cooler story than the one just told.Ah okay, thanks for letting me know. I have been in the industry for about 8 years, I thought I could give you guys some insider info.
How many times have you been over there talking to the farmers?
Like, "oh man, that's cool but (insert slightly cooler story here)"
Sworder
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I mean yes that is the behavior that you are seeing. And yes, I do enjoy "debating"
My point isn't to be the coolest. My point is, I know more than he does. Why can't he just listen?
We all think that we are smarter than each other and he is thinking the same thing I am. "I know more than you." That's the phenomena that you are seeing.
So I ask a question and that will make him realize, "wait, maybe I don't know more than Sworder about this topic."
This process is called learning. To me it is at least, we all have different personal truths.
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Sworder
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There are always variances in products, bananas don't taste the exact same. The different effects from kratom are based on how strong the product is. Stronger is more sedative, weaker is more energetic. Opiates are like that.
Gymjitsu
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I'm not saying I'm entirely right. I could very possibly be wrong, I just know the different strains I've taken have had different effects to me
Sworder
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Yes there are different levels of alkaloids in different batches. There is only one "mitragyna speciosa."
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Here we go again...
True. Found this out today.
The guy described it like weed... It's always THC, but there's so many different "feels".
You're right!! Ding ding ding lol
Sworder
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You are funny
Ankle pick
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Using Kratom daily for just a few months if the dose is high is going down the same road as painkillers. Head shop Kratom
Is full of adulterants and sprayed mitangyine 7 concentrate and evening various opiates .
It will jam you up like Vicodin, and you cannot be taking any psych drugs , even Benzos, you will start losing your memory. If you must take this or need to titrate. Find a good source that tests for no adulterants . You will use the tip of a knife , not a scale for dosing and because it is pure from a source that ensures no adulterants , you’ll be taking real Kratom at least and get all the other stuff out of your system . It’s like anything, once in a while , with a real product, , sure. But daily use is really fucking bad . Withdrawals from headshot Kratom can be as bad as oxy.
trust me when I say it will jam you up.
And will start to suck out your energy just like any addiction. Not recommended
Is full of adulterants and sprayed mitangyine 7 concentrate and evening various opiates .
It will jam you up like Vicodin, and you cannot be taking any psych drugs , even Benzos, you will start losing your memory. If you must take this or need to titrate. Find a good source that tests for no adulterants . You will use the tip of a knife , not a scale for dosing and because it is pure from a source that ensures no adulterants , you’ll be taking real Kratom at least and get all the other stuff out of your system . It’s like anything, once in a while , with a real product, , sure. But daily use is really fucking bad . Withdrawals from headshot Kratom can be as bad as oxy.
trust me when I say it will jam you up.
And will start to suck out your energy just like any addiction. Not recommended
Sworder
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Be careful with kratom extracts, the extracts are extremely unprofitable to make and there was OPMS that put dope in their extracts
Regular kratom is dirt cheap and safe, you can buy it for $10-15/kilo. To be honest the biggest thing with kratom is the heavy metals, because the soil is beat up from the rice harvesting. I am not saying you should be worry about it, but if you are going to worry about something. It should be the heavy metals.
But yes, it is an opiate, your body will get dependent on it if you consume it for too long.
Gymjitsu
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I used to take OPMS a couple years ago when they were still around. I had no idea they adulterated there stuff but it makes sense nowBe careful with kratom extracts, the extracts are extremely unprofitable to make and there was OPMS that put dope in their extracts
Regular kratom is dirt cheap and safe, you can buy it for $10-15/kilo. To be honest the biggest thing with kratom is the heavy metals, because the soil is beat up from the rice harvesting. I am not saying you should be worry about it, but if you are going to worry about something. It should be the heavy metals.
But yes, it is an opiate, your body will get dependent on it if you consume it for too long.
Gymjitsu
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I use wonderland gardens now, not sure if anyone here has heard of them
I use it occasionally. For me it acts as a mild stimulant/appetite suppressor. I've never felt any real "opiate" like effects. Other than taking away small aches and pains, and some mood enhancement/feel good effects.
I like it more for cardio than pre-workout.
I make kratom coffee. Kratom tea, into cold brew coffee for the morning.
And all "strains" seem to work the same, for me.
I like it more for cardio than pre-workout.
I make kratom coffee. Kratom tea, into cold brew coffee for the morning.
And all "strains" seem to work the same, for me.
DescartesBreh
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Personally, I don't like the effects and I've sampled Kratom from multiple Canadian and American sources. It's made me sick multiple times from small doses
That can happen.
Starting dose is 1 teaspoon, or less.
Too much makes me feel sick as well. Never got any sedative or real opiate like effects.
Rumpwrangler
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I use white maeng da for preworkout 5 days a week alongside my regular preworkout. I prefer the white and yellow strains for preworkout. Greens for whenever. And reds when I just wanna chill and relax. Big fan of kratom. Stuff gets expensive though.
Most drug habits do.
Never felt much didference between strains. Or concentrates for that matter.
The most active ingredient is the same. Just like marijuana.
Duuude you better be careful. If you haven't experienced "the wobbles" yet, google it. My fucking god it is something from hell.
Kratom is nearly impossible to overdose on. The primary active chemicals (mitragynine and 7-hydroxy-mitragynine, aka M and 7OHM henceforth, respectively) are both only partial agonists at the mu-opioid receptor (MOR). This is similar to buprenorphine, a.k.a., suboxone or subutex, which is used to help get addicts off of heroin and other opioids. If memory serves me correctly, research estimates one would need to eat roughly 4 kg to overdose on kratom leaf. Your stomach would burst before you could consume that much kratom.
Regardless, when you take too much kratom, you experience The Wobbles. Basically, there are several symptoms that make up The Wobbles:
1. Your eyes are shaky. Yep, the muscles that hold your eyes in place start to shake, making your entire vision wobbly. This is where The Wobbles gets its name from.
2. You get super nauseous and feel like you're going to throw up.
3. You get a really bad and weird headache
4. You feel weak, your whole body feels shaky. Almost like pre-seizure-ish.
It lasts basically the whole day. Usually the next morning you'll feel fine.
There might be some others I've missed, it's been years since I've had it and I believe I only had it once. All I can say is it fucking SUCKS. So just be careful.
Also, as I have said before. Kratom withdrawals fucking suck dick too. It is addictive and your body will become dependent on it after several weeks/a couple months of regular use. The glow lasts a few months, then goes away. Then you just get weird, spotty effects where sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't do a damned thing. It sucks. Intermittent use is the best way to go to avoid tolerance and dependence.
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