I'm curious why you would want to?
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I'm curious why you would want to?
For one, if you are running tren, adding var will do minimal if anything. Two, just let the DNP do its job. You would be wasting the tren. Have you ran DNP and understand how it works? The only other thing I would take with DNP is a test base and t3. DNP has proven to lower t3 just like tren does. With any orals, eat grapefruit with it. Grapefruit prevent metabolization in the intestines increasing the bioavailability
TacoTuesday
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DNP does not lower t3.
But you do you.
Maybe it's YOU that should understand how DNP works a little bit more.
And how do you get that running Var with Tren will deem it useless.
Honestly I dont have catchy responses but these statements are pretty much borderline ignorant of yours.
Please post a study that proves this.
TacoTuesday
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Same reason people run shit with anything else...
I just know supplementing T3 while on DNP will inhibit T4 conversion tp T3 and ultimately you're just in a vicious cycle of not stabilizing T3 by supplementing it. Since DNP doesnt fuck with it to begin with why add it?
I have a full understanding how DNP blocks ATP. Also, you’re the one suggesting throwing compound after compound to get a desired result. Give me one reason why you would need to add var to a test/tren cycle. Let alone throw DNP into the mix. You can’t just keep throwing drugs in because your diet is shit and train like a 2 year old.
I sure hope you get bloods done every six months with your mentality.
The Chemical Uncoupler 2,4-Dinitrophenol (DNP) Protects against Diet-induced Obesity and Improves Energy Homeostasis in Mice at Thermoneutrality
Or you could just blast tren and DNP, then get bloods done if you don’t die first. Free t3 and t4 will be diminished. Mine has never crashed nor have I heard anyone else’s crash but free circulation is diminished.
I for one would never suggest recklessness like taco dude. There could be little shits I high school taking his advice and end up dead
BroScientist
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I know some people like to cut on tren, but I'd be wary of mixing the two. Save the tren for a bulk, and run DNP on cruise to cut. If you really want to run something with DNP, find some phentermine. At least you will feel mostly human when you run DNP. DNP is very hard on you, don't go overboard.
Venom Chadwich
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DNP is already ludicrously effective. why would you want to run anything other than a stimulant with it?
Okay. Generally, you're going to want to run some sort of AAS to preserve muscle while entering into a caloric deficit... I assume that's what you're getting at. However, DNP is already protein sparing and focuses almost entirely on fat.
Harper JA, Dickinson K and Brand MD (2001) Mitochondrial uncoupling as a target for drug development for the treatment of obesity. Obesity Rev, 2, 255–265
"In contrast to the use of thyroid extract (also in common use at the time to treat obesity), DNP did not promote urinary nitrogen excretion, so the assumption was made that weight loss could be attributed to a specific loss of fat (47)."
Bell, Jacques. 1939. Etude biologique des produits dinitres chez l'homme. Medecine. 19:749-54.
"2. This increase of the metabolism is due mostly to an increase in the combustion of the fat and a little to combustion of carbohydrates.
3. Dinitrophenol does not attack cell tissue albumin and does not determine the fat loss to the expense of the muscles, contrary to thyroxine.
Additionally, tren commonly gives side effects for most users such as night sweats and increased body temperature. Why would anyone combine the two when there is essentially nothing to be gained from it?
I sure hope it doesn't block ATP, otherwise you and I are dead and just don't know it yet...
To my knowledge, there's only one human case study that showed thyroid impairment and it's a Norwegian case study.
DNP can affect serum T3/T4 but it doesn't impair thyroid function. Through DNP's MOA it could lower the total hormone concentration but should not have effect on thyroid function. I've never seen anyone with any actual evidence of diminished T3, just claims that it does.
Eman, what I should have said was reduces the production of ATP. Which the body then increases metabolism to make up for the energy loss. To be honest I really can’t remember where I read this stuff a few years back. I try to research as much as possible before I start loading everything under the sun. Most of these guys aren’t at their genetic limit, yet run grams of gear.
The way I read it explained is that dnp constantly clears the cells of atp thereby requiring the mitochondria to continuously attempt to replenish the cells with atp thus boosting metabolism and burning calories
ounick28
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Just want to jump in here and say that Anavar would probably be my one of my first addition to a Test/Tren cycle for cutting or possibly Masteron or even Winstrol if you take the right support.
You would want to add a compound that isn’t very estrogenic so that you don’t add water weight and defeat one of the great benefit of low dose Tren.
We know that AAS can be very synergistic; hence why AAS are almost always stacked. Dylangemelli will be the first to tell you that you should always add at least cardarine to ever cycle.
I agree on the DNP addition though. Unless you’ve taken both of these drugs before on their own, I wouldn’t stack them until you are sure you can handle/manage their side effects. However, at this point if your stack is this heavy... you better be prepping for a competition.
Cardarine combats a lot of the negative sides from tren. If it was safe to run year round I’d take it like a multivitaminJust want to jump in here and say that Anavar would probably be my one of my first addition to a Test/Tren cycle for cutting or possibly Masteron or even Winstrol if you take the right support.
You would want to add a compound that isn’t very estrogenic so that you don’t add water weight and defeat one of the great benefit of low dose Tren.
We know that AAS can be very synergistic; hence why AAS are almost always stacked. Dylangemelli will be the first to tell you that you should always add at least cardarine to ever cycle.
I agree on the DNP addition though. Unless you’ve taken both of these drugs before on their own, I wouldn’t stack them until you are sure you can handle/manage their side effects. However, at this point if your stack is this heavy... you better be prepping for a competition.
ounick28
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I know... I was also trying to make a joke about this guy on another forum that is notorious for pushing SARMs for everything and giving out his discount code
TxPrisonNurse
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Gymjitsu
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Why?
Gbro
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Because he wants to do Western Union
This.
Pretty much all that needs to be said
Run DNP in your cruise or off time.
Run Gear on cycle
I'm not a fan of cutting cycles.
Cutting is done with nutrition
Wasting a perfectly good muscle biulding opportunity makes zero sense to me.
A nice recomp on cycle at 200 cals over maintenance, sure...
But at a deficit?
Nope
Never
People run tren with dnp because it helps keep muscle while doing the long cycles of dnp
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