So i just read in china when they reopened gyms they did this

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Most of the gyms in China have re-opened excluding Beijing. They have introduced max capacity levels – allowing a max of 50 people in at a time (based on 30,000 sq ft) for a 90 minute period. After the 90 mins is up, the gym does a full clean for half an hour before letting the next 50 people in to work out and so on. People are having to book slots in at the gym rather than just turn up. Working well so far apparently (in that gyms can re-open and people can go) but nowhere near as convenient and flexible.

im guessing whenever social distancing is lifted everywhere else like us and canada they will probably do the same thing here.
 
Sounds like some bureaucrat's guess at what might work while retaining authority over everyone, "we're only going to keep one foot on your neck". That might be fine for communist China, but in the US gyms are privately owned and operated.

This virus is a dud. None of the expert's predictions on infection or death rates have been remotely accurate. All of them predicted at least an order of magnitude more of both, and that was assuming radically more oppressive lock downs than what we ultimately got. And these are the people the politicians based their lock down decisions on. It's time these idiots got out of the way and let the people make their own decisions.
 
Sounds like some bureaucrat's guess at what might work while retaining authority over everyone, "we're only going to keep one foot on your neck". That might be fine for communist China, but in the US gyms are privately owned and operated.

This virus is a dud. None of the expert's predictions on infection or death rates have been remotely accurate. All of them predicted at least an order of magnitude more of both, and that was assuming radically more oppressive lock downs than what we ultimately got. And these are the people the politicians based their lock down decisions on. It's time these idiots got out of the way and let the people make their own decisions.
Yeah but what can we do.... I mean they are overplaying this virus but the only way I see the normal world allowing the gym back anytime soon would be to allow 50 max. Otherwise ppl gunna be scared and gyms will prob stay closed for 6 more months if they don't do that sadly ...
 
Yeah but what can we do.... I mean they are overplaying this virus but the only way I see the normal world allowing the gym back anytime soon would be to allow 50 max. Otherwise ppl gunna be scared and gyms will prob stay closed for 6 more months if they don't do that sadly ...

Well, we could protest.. oh, wait, the government said we can't have large gatherings, so protests are out. We could show our resistance on social media, oh, but then Twitter and FB will just censor our posts and ban us. We'll just have to do what we're told. Have to say I'm pretty disappointed in my fellow Americans these days.
 
This is America. We are getting very impatient with this violation of liberty. Gyms will open up to business as usual. Seeing as how grocery stores are probably the worst place to be, I don’t think gyms will have anyone worried. And we won’t follow China’s lead on anything. Fucking communists can’t be trusted as far as we can throw them.
 
Well, we could protest.. oh, wait, the government said we can't have large gatherings, so protests are out. We could show our resistance on social media, oh, but then Twitter and FB will just censor our posts and ban us. We'll just have to do what we're told. Have to say I'm pretty disappointed in my fellow Americans these days.

That's what I mean like wtf we gotta do something. But more then half the people I talk to think I'm crazy thinking this virus is a plot for something bigger and not as srs as media is making it , yet they look at me and say don't you watch the news
... the news is bs man 6 ppl running all of it...
 
Saw this earlier, not sure I agree with the deep state stuff. Agreed with most of the rest of it

I want you guys to watch this doc , it came out 2 days ago and already at 4millions views. It will show you that you cannot trust the media at all! If you have time please watch and share it too. It looks like more people are starting to realise we've been manipulated and this is actually opening the eyes of many
 
@flenser have you read about ID2020? I'm guessing that's really what they're using this pandemic for.

Yes, that's part of it I'm sure. Who really knows if that is a driving force behind all this, though. I personally try to stay away from specific conspiracies unless I have real proof.

I have proof, for example, that the lock downs were implemented based on completely bogus infection and death rate models That's assuming all those models were not just accidentally way off - a real possibility when talking about publicly funded research. My guess is that models with more realistic and less frightening predictions were out there but simply ignored - no grant money for you!

From there most is just guessing, a.k.a. conspiracy theories. Charles Norman wrote a nice piece which I suspect is more right than wrong, but is of the order of conspiracy theories that link too many facts together without specific coordinating evidence. He also missed pointing out that Gates and friends have extreme views on population control, and have already been implicated in Africa for sterilizing some 40% of women given a (I think) malaria vaccine. Anyway, here's his article below..

Go Big or Stay Home

Charles Norman
April 13, 2020

bigstock-188246257.jpg

photo credit: Bigstock

COVID-19 is the coveted excuse the global elite have been looking for to push through their agenda.

Washed-up former leaders sensing a second opportunity to rule, such as Gordon Brown and Mikhail Gorbachev, have already said the crisis means it is time “to create a temporary form of world government,” and to “revise the entire global agenda.”

Our would-be world rulers are on a deadline. Failure to act immediately threatens to give more power to recent populist movements and turn the globalization project into The Tower of Babel: Part Deux. Henry Kissinger articulated this fear recently in The Wall Street Journal:

The (economic) contraction unleashed by the coronavirus is, in its speed and global scale, unlike anything ever known in history…. The pandemic has prompted an anachronism, a revival of the walled city in an age when prosperity depends on global trade and movement of people…. [The] historic challenge for leaders is to manage the crisis while building the future. Failure could set the world on fire.

The elites have attempted to construct world government before. The hope after World War I was in the League of Nations, but it failed. Likewise, the United Nations was the second attempt in the aftermath of World War II, but Joseph Stalin balked at joining what would’ve been world government with America at the helm.

In the decades that followed, the globalists pinned their hopes on campaigns hyping various crises; first overpopulation and then looming ecological disaster (the coming ice age, global warming, and finally climate change). When the globalist Club of Rome think tank released their second book in 1991, they admitted to searching but failing to find that perfect crisis:

In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill….

Those causes moved the ball downfield but failed to score a touchdown. What those doomsday campaigns with their projections and models lacked was a wolf at the door. A threat so imposing that it would justify global governance now.

This is what makes the coronavirus pandemic the ideal vehicle for global government: It is the unprecedented, universal enemy of all nations. The 20th-century political philosopher Carl Schmitt (who is incidentally experiencing a revival amongst China’s intellectuals) observed that “the notion of a world-state is absurd as long as humanity is not at war with an alien force.” Perhaps that is precisely what COVID-19 is now.

Current governments are in a tremendous double bind at this point, which very well may aid the globalists. They don’t know whether to keep people locked inside and start an economic depression or to start the economies up and aggravate the pandemic. The trouble is that we cannot truly open up the economies again until we have the virus contained. Studies are suggesting this cannot be done until there is a vaccine. But then once there is a vaccine, how will we know who has been vaccinated or who has received immunity from the disease?

This is where step 1 for global government—a digital identification system for everybody on the planet—comes in. Bill Gates started a controversy a few weeks ago when he said in a Reddit question-and-answer thread:

Eventually we will have some digital certificates to show who has recovered or been tested recently or when we have a vaccine who has received it.

People soon put together that Gates and Microsoft had already been one of the partners of ID2020, a recent program to “leverage immunization as an opportunity to establish digital identity…a computerized record of who a person is, stored in a registry. It is used, in this case, to keep track of who has received vaccination.”

The totalitarian implications, which had critics quoting the Book of Revelation, were enough to prompt Attorney General William Barr to say he’s very concerned about Gates’ proposal and “the slippery slope in terms of continuing encroachments on personal liberty.” The next attorney general, perhaps one not nominated by a populist Republican president, will likely not be as alarmed.

For many observers this hypothetical world government would in practice mean kowtowing to Chinese rule. The premier advocates for world government, such as former Secretary General of NATO Javier Solana, already believe China has not been given “the degree of influence over global governance structures that it merits.”

This all seems to point to the communist and capitalist elites in China and America finally going public about their relationship, and sharing the famous socialist kiss. No one should be surprised by their entanglement, though at first glance it seems like a political contradiction.

China has the world’s second-largest number of private billionaires (don’t tell Grandpa Bernie). American companies such as Google already work on censored search engines for the communist Chinese, and have given themselves over to working on Chinese military projects (prompting Peter Thiel to accuse Google of treason).

It was Henry Kissinger, the face of the American “deep state” for over fifty years, who went on a secret mission to open up China to the West in 1971. Two years later it was David Rockefeller, accompanied by six members of Chase Bank, who said that “the social experiment in China under Chairman Mao’s leadership is one of the most important and successful in history.”

As China’s reward for its incompetence regarding COVID-19, the global elite may soon run a world government through them. Although China has sparked illness and financial ruin for millions if not billions of people, why would politicians let a crisis of this magnitude go to waste?
 
Yes, that's part of it I'm sure. Who really knows if that is a driving force behind all this, though. I personally try to stay away from specific conspiracies unless I have real proof.

I have proof, for example, that the lock downs were implemented based on completely bogus infection and death rate models That's assuming all those models were not just accidentally way off - a real possibility when talking about publicly funded research. My guess is that models with more realistic and less frightening predictions were out there but simply ignored - no grant money for you!

From there most is just guessing, a.k.a. conspiracy theories. Charles Norman wrote a nice piece which I suspect is more right than wrong, but is of the order of conspiracy theories that link too many facts together without specific coordinating evidence. He also missed pointing out that Gates and friends have extreme views on population control, and have already been implicated in Africa for sterilizing some 40% of women given a (I think) malaria vaccine. Anyway, here's his article below..

Go Big or Stay Home

Charles Norman
April 13, 2020

bigstock-188246257.jpg

photo credit: Bigstock

COVID-19 is the coveted excuse the global elite have been looking for to push through their agenda.

Washed-up former leaders sensing a second opportunity to rule, such as Gordon Brown and Mikhail Gorbachev, have already said the crisis means it is time “to create a temporary form of world government,” and to “revise the entire global agenda.”

Our would-be world rulers are on a deadline. Failure to act immediately threatens to give more power to recent populist movements and turn the globalization project into The Tower of Babel: Part Deux. Henry Kissinger articulated this fear recently in The Wall Street Journal:

The (economic) contraction unleashed by the coronavirus is, in its speed and global scale, unlike anything ever known in history…. The pandemic has prompted an anachronism, a revival of the walled city in an age when prosperity depends on global trade and movement of people…. [The] historic challenge for leaders is to manage the crisis while building the future. Failure could set the world on fire.

The elites have attempted to construct world government before. The hope after World War I was in the League of Nations, but it failed. Likewise, the United Nations was the second attempt in the aftermath of World War II, but Joseph Stalin balked at joining what would’ve been world government with America at the helm.

In the decades that followed, the globalists pinned their hopes on campaigns hyping various crises; first overpopulation and then looming ecological disaster (the coming ice age, global warming, and finally climate change). When the globalist Club of Rome think tank released their second book in 1991, they admitted to searching but failing to find that perfect crisis:

In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill….

Those causes moved the ball downfield but failed to score a touchdown. What those doomsday campaigns with their projections and models lacked was a wolf at the door. A threat so imposing that it would justify global governance now.

This is what makes the coronavirus pandemic the ideal vehicle for global government: It is the unprecedented, universal enemy of all nations. The 20th-century political philosopher Carl Schmitt (who is incidentally experiencing a revival amongst China’s intellectuals) observed that “the notion of a world-state is absurd as long as humanity is not at war with an alien force.” Perhaps that is precisely what COVID-19 is now.

Current governments are in a tremendous double bind at this point, which very well may aid the globalists. They don’t know whether to keep people locked inside and start an economic depression or to start the economies up and aggravate the pandemic. The trouble is that we cannot truly open up the economies again until we have the virus contained. Studies are suggesting this cannot be done until there is a vaccine. But then once there is a vaccine, how will we know who has been vaccinated or who has received immunity from the disease?

This is where step 1 for global government—a digital identification system for everybody on the planet—comes in. Bill Gates started a controversy a few weeks ago when he said in a Reddit question-and-answer thread:

Eventually we will have some digital certificates to show who has recovered or been tested recently or when we have a vaccine who has received it.

People soon put together that Gates and Microsoft had already been one of the partners of ID2020, a recent program to “leverage immunization as an opportunity to establish digital identity…a computerized record of who a person is, stored in a registry. It is used, in this case, to keep track of who has received vaccination.”

The totalitarian implications, which had critics quoting the Book of Revelation, were enough to prompt Attorney General William Barr to say he’s very concerned about Gates’ proposal and “the slippery slope in terms of continuing encroachments on personal liberty.” The next attorney general, perhaps one not nominated by a populist Republican president, will likely not be as alarmed.

For many observers this hypothetical world government would in practice mean kowtowing to Chinese rule. The premier advocates for world government, such as former Secretary General of NATO Javier Solana, already believe China has not been given “the degree of influence over global governance structures that it merits.”

This all seems to point to the communist and capitalist elites in China and America finally going public about their relationship, and sharing the famous socialist kiss. No one should be surprised by their entanglement, though at first glance it seems like a political contradiction.

China has the world’s second-largest number of private billionaires (don’t tell Grandpa Bernie). American companies such as Google already work on censored search engines for the communist Chinese, and have given themselves over to working on Chinese military projects (prompting Peter Thiel to accuse Google of treason).

It was Henry Kissinger, the face of the American “deep state” for over fifty years, who went on a secret mission to open up China to the West in 1971. Two years later it was David Rockefeller, accompanied by six members of Chase Bank, who said that “the social experiment in China under Chairman Mao’s leadership is one of the most important and successful in history.”

As China’s reward for its incompetence regarding COVID-19, the global elite may soon run a world government through them. Although China has sparked illness and financial ruin for millions if not billions of people, why would politicians let a crisis of this magnitude go to waste?
ID2020 has a website where they have their manifesto and list the partners
 
ID2020 has a website where they have their manifesto and list the partners

Yes, but they don't claim to be pushing bogus virus statistics and predictive models for the purpose of achieving their goals. They would be fools to not take advantage of the situation, but it doesn't necessarily follow that they are a primary or even significant force in the mass deception. There are plenty of powerful organizations and individuals just as motivated and far less transparent than Gates and friends have been over the years with their evil plans.
 
Most of the gyms in China have re-opened excluding Beijing. They have introduced max capacity levels – allowing a max of 50 people in at a time (based on 30,000 sq ft) for a 90 minute period. After the 90 mins is up, the gym does a full clean for half an hour before letting the next 50 people in to work out and so on. People are having to book slots in at the gym rather than just turn up. Working well so far apparently (in that gyms can re-open and people can go) but nowhere near as convenient and flexible.

im guessing whenever social distancing is lifted everywhere else like us and canada they will probably do the same thing here.
That's just chinese communist propaganda.
Remember how fucked up the world became the last time the chinese said "we're fine"?

The world is NOT coming back to normal anytime soon.
Just face it and accept it.

Most people would remain too scared of public places and most won't be spending any money on nonessential things, like gyms, restaurants, going out, dining, clubs, etc.
Just accept it and get over it.
 
That's just chinese communist propaganda.
Remember how fucked up the world became the last time the chinese said "we're fine"?

The world is NOT coming back to normal anytime soon.
Just face it and accept it.

Most people would remain too scared of public places and most won't be spending any money on nonessential things, like gyms, restaurants, going out, dining, clubs, etc.
Just accept it and get over it.
I think it's going to be exactly the opposite when places reopen. I think ppl are gonna go fucking apeshit! Gyms will be packed, the bars will be slammed full, and ppl will be like junkies who finally got a fix after coming down. We are social creatures, living in isolation isn't normal unless you're a die hard monk
 
That's just chinese communist propaganda.
Remember how fucked up the world became the last time the chinese said "we're fine"?

The world is NOT coming back to normal anytime soon.
Just face it and accept it.

Most people would remain too scared of public places and most won't be spending any money on nonessential things, like gyms, restaurants, going out, dining, clubs, etc.
Just accept it and get over it.
Nah man your crazy to think the world can even afford more then 2 more months... its not gunna happen. We wont be back to normal but most places will open with some restrictions. I doubt there will be any night clubs,raves ,marathons , and anything of a huge gathering of ppl but the rest will have to open.
 
I think it's going to be exactly the opposite when places reopen. I think ppl are gonna go fucking apeshit! Gyms will be packed, the bars will be slammed full, and ppl will be like junkies who finally got a fix after coming down. We are social creatures, living in isolation isn't normal unless you're a die hard monk

Nah man your crazy to think the world can even afford more then 2 more months... its not gunna happen. We wont be back to normal but most places will open with some restrictions. I doubt there will be any night clubs,raves ,marathons , and anything of a huge gathering of ppl but the rest will have to open.
Reopening will take about a year

...and when take finally reopen, boom a reinfection second wave, even worse than the first one.

Viruses don't care about your feelings or the economy.
 

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