Religion, science, or both... Where do you stand?

If you’re 50 years old it’s really more sad and pathetic than anything

Fifty years old used to be some grizzled up man that smoked 2 packs a day and looked like shit, he was dead by 65.

We've got professional skateboarders that are in their 50's today, punk rock singers that are in their 70's.

The world has changed, people are living longer, staying younger(doesn't mean they haven't accumulated some wisdom)

Sure I have an adult aspect to my life, but my maturity doesn't mean I suddenly snap to attention and become fully assimilated into the hive.

My main interests are police state, anti-authority, anti-religion, war on drugs, far right and left politics, nihilism, anti-natalism, anti-consumerism, pessimism, science, and in general the destruction of morality as we know it.

I could sit and explain to you in detail all aspects of blood banking, crossmatching, antibody ID, DAT, elution, maternal fetal cell screening, transfusion reactions. Hematology both automation and manual, coag, clinical chemistry and quality control, how to establish reference ranges, perform normal studies, comparison studies, validations, peer group evaluations for assayed controls, writing procedure manuals, preparing for inspections, trouble shooting and maintaining most forms of analyzers one would find in well equipped laboratories, microbiology, pcr testing....ect. Twenty six years of grinding it out working my ass off.

This idea that you can't have views that veer off from the norm is silly, age has nothing to do with it, you will find many old men with views not that much different than mine. Just because someone arrives at middle age doesn't mean they suddenly buy into the bullshit, look at George Carlin that cranky old guy was fighting the system until the day he died.
 
Many of you younger guys have this idea that as you grow older you must follow the course set by your elders, you must progress through stages that have been laid out for you and any deviation from that course will have you in rough waters with no oars.

It doesn't work like that, you don't have to do anything other than be yourself, you don't have to get married and have children, own a nice car, house, bitching wife, be in debt or be admired by family, friends, and neighbors.

You can just exist, just exist every day until the day you no longer exist.

Trust me it doesn't matter at all, so enjoy your time, don't worry about what others think and you'll be dead soon enough.
 
Sworder seems to be the default for anyone that has an unpopular opinion.

I didn't like that post,....must be Sworder.

Most of the people on this forum that know my troll, also know that I consider myself an anarchist and yes No Gods/No Masters is something I take to heart.

No, you just seem to know a lot about Sworder, and your grammar and vocabulary, attitude and ability to double think are just like Sworder's.

Admittedly I never read many of Sworder's posts. I didn't start watching for you until that hilarious thread where you were psychoanalyzing everyone. I forget that user name, so I just assume everyone is right when they said you were Sworder before.

If you're version 2.0 of Sworder, your developers need some new ideas. You're too easy to spot anymore.
 
No, you just seem to know a lot about Sworder, and your grammar and vocabulary, attitude and ability to double think are just like Sworder's.

Admittedly I never read many of Sworder's posts. I didn't start watching for you until that hilarious thread where you were psychoanalyzing everyone. I forget that user name, so I just assume everyone is right when they said you were Sworder before.

If you're version 2.0 of Sworder, your developers need some new ideas. You're too easy to spot anymore.

The ability to doublethink is an asset. Only a Sith thinks in absolutes.

 
I have carried on conversations with Sworder before he was banned or disappeared.

I got the impression he was from France, was really into psychology.

He was all over the map with his interests, but I don't think he was too political, he did like a debate and didn't give up.

I'm not sure why you guys kicked Sworder out of here, some of his posts were brilliant imo.
 
I have carried on conversations with Sworder before he was banned or disappeared.

I got the impression he was from France, was really into psychology.

He was all over the map with his interests, but I don't think he was too political, he did like a debate and didn't give up.

I'm not sure why you guys kicked Sworder out of here, some of his posts were brilliant imo.
He was banned for being a troll and when he returned, he stepped up to Millard and MB had enough and permabanned his ass.
 
No, you just seem to know a lot about Sworder, and your grammar and vocabulary, attitude and ability to double think are just like Sworder's.

Admittedly I never read many of Sworder's posts. I didn't start watching for you until that hilarious thread where you were psychoanalyzing everyone. I forget that user name, so I just assume everyone is right when they said you were Sworder before.

If you're version 2.0 of Sworder, your developers need some new ideas. You're too easy to spot anymore.
I agree. He just blows up the form, so its impossible to miss any of the posts.


The ideas he preaches about are the same too.
 
Some of the points are valid. I do agree with many of them myself. But as soon as the attacking begins, it gets carried away.

I try my best to present an unpleasent truth. To disturb the balance and comfort we all feel when we are among people we agree.

I never attack the person, only their views, beliefs, patriotism, religion, standards, values, but never the person themselves as that would be evil.
 
I grew up in the church and have had various depths on involvement from traveling the world doing aid work to just being a shadow that darkens the door. I have had many positive experiences and many negative experiences. Since my divorce I don't really participate or believe the same way. The whole area of my life became muddied to say the least.
 
I grew up in the church as well, I was kicked out of sunday school for making fun and laughing at the stories from a very young age. I was forced to sit with the adults and I eventually figured out how to sneak out of the church running all over town for 3hrs and when the church would let out I would hide behind a bush and jump out to blend with the crowd exiting the church pretending I was there all along.

The worst experience of my life was being sent to church camp when I was in grade school. These kids were F'n fruitcakes. They would have bible debate, play make out games in the bushes at night and go to church and be on their knees crying out to god and talking in tongues. The pastor asked me what is wrong and why I wasn't participating, I just looked at all these kids and thought how the hell am I gonna get out of this place.

Once I was 12 years old it was no longer possible to physically force me to go to church, I would grab my skateboard and jump out my bedroom window every sunday morning as soon as I heard my parents getting up.

Been a sworn enemy of the the church ever since.
 
I try my best to present an unpleasent truth. To disturb the balance and comfort we all feel when we are among people we agree.

I never attack the person, only their views, beliefs, patriotism, religion, standards, values, but never the person themselves as that would be evil.

Come on, you're a troll, a good one, but a troll none the less. I would say the psychoanalysis stuff you did on different members qualifies as attacks. They definitely saw it that way, lol.
 
The worst experience of my life was being sent to church camp when I was in grade school.

The first time I got laid was in church camp. The second was with the same girl, in church. Talk about a religious experience..
 
The first time I got laid was in church camp. The second was with the same girl, in church. Talk about a religious experience..

You're not kidding. The church camp kids were all horn dogs. I was more in horror of the place I had been sent. I felt like Hogan in Hogans Hero's trying to figure out how to escape. The compound was fenced in with razor wire with a locked gate that let us in and I had no clue where I was. I arrive in a white van, today we would call that kidnapping and child abuse, I still remember the experience vividly almost 40 years later.

 
I try my best to present an unpleasent truth. To disturb the balance and comfort we all feel when we are among people we agree.

I never attack the person, only their views, beliefs, patriotism, religion, standards, values, but never the person themselves as that would be evil.

Sworder LITERALLY said almost the exact same thing to me.

He truly thought he was doing everyone a favor by attacking them.

Silliness
 
Sworder LITERALLY said almost the exact same thing to me.

He truly thought he was doing everyone a favor by attacking them.

Silliness

It's never an attack on you personally, all these silly beliefs and values you've been indoctrinated with, they aren't yours by default. If you had been raised by cannibals you'd have no problem killing and eating humans.

Our long adolescence gives society and our parents plenty of time to mold us into what is viewed acceptable.

I'd love to see a human raised completely on his own in the wild with plenty of food and water to see what he would become naturally without any outside influence.
 
You're not kidding. The church camp kids were all horn dogs. I was more in horror of the place I had been sent. I felt like Hogan in Hogans Hero's trying to figure out how to escape. The compound was fenced in with razor wire with a locked gate that let us in and I had no clue where I was. I arrive in a white van, today we would call that kidnapping and child abuse, I still remember the experience vividly almost 40 years later.

There was no horror for me getting laid. The closest I came to horror was when we were in church and I tried to get her to switch from saying, "oh gosh", to, "fuck me". She got really mad, and it took almost 10 minutes to talk her back into the store room.
 
It's never an attack on you personally, all these silly beliefs and values you've been indoctrinated with, they aren't yours by default. If you had been raised by cannibals you'd have no problem killing and eating humans.

Our long adolescence gives society and our parents plenty of time to mold us into what is viewed acceptable.

I'd love to see a human raised completely on his own in the wild with plenty of food and water to see what he would become naturally without any outside influence.
You have some very weird sense of self importance and a very unhealthy narcissism. You’re not as smart or as deep as you think either. You just parrot what others have said and display the same amount of cognitive dissonance as those you criticize. You honestly don’t have an original or brilliant thought it’s all copied.
I’ve seen the same documentary that you’re claiming that you experienced as a child. I’d imagine you never felt like you were good enough growing up so you created some useless online persona that exudes a bravado that you could never muster the courage to in real life. You’re a sad pathetic failed troll with a savior complex fighting the imaginary enemy that simply does not exist.
 
There was no horror for me getting laid. The closest I came to horror was when we were in church and I tried to get her to switch from saying, "oh gosh", to, "fuck me". She got really mad, and it took almost 10 minutes to talk her back into the store room.

The church I attended was loaded with hot girls.

However I was an outcast in the church, they knew I made fun of religion, smirking and laughing and getting my ass beat because of it, they knew I didn't take it seriously, they did lots of outreach coming to my house to talk to me, trying to save the lost kid that couldn't see the light.

This is where I learned my rage towards religion, as bad as it is in this country, I can't imagine what those poor lads do to tolerate Islam.

That's when I turned onto 80's punk music and got my education from Jello Biafro, Bad Religion, Ian Mackaye, Henry Rollins...ect.
I'm thankful for punkrock because it was the only thing back then that seemed to vocalize what was going on in my mind, complete anti-authority in every aspect of life, work, play, and most importantly the atheism, the relentless mocking of religious leaders we had on TV all the time back in this era of Church Ladies with megaphones.
 
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