Wait, the hack that your boss claimed never happened?
Or the one that never happened before that?
Sorry, help me out here a tiny bit here, Rob, would you?
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Or the one that never happened before that?
Sorry, help me out here a tiny bit here, Rob, would you?
So, where's those results and clients? Why don't you have them post over here?
Because I mean, why in the earth would you withhold information and evidence that would help your business and ruin mine and have NEVER posted it?
It's because you don't have none and you are bullshitting.
You're a fucking liar Rob and it'll come back to haunt you and your boss.
Don't you ever dare talk shit back to me and lie like that again Rob.
Xenophon178
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I answered that. I’ll do it again. The results I expected were approx 2k or so because the math jives. I’d even be cool with approx 1800 but, 500-600 ng/dL is a large difference.
It pisses me off enough to have to repeat myself in a conversation but to have to do it in writing where you can just scroll back up and read it drives me through the fucking roof.
The main goal here is to let people know.
Nice job trying to discredit Jano. I think Meso members are perfectly capable of making up their own mind for themselves.
Infidel141
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@PandaRep boy you sure are a fuckin cocksucker son, that attitude gonna get you in some shit one day and you'll find yourself in a shallow grave
TonyTwoPosts
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That does not even make sense. Are you implying that Jano does this sort of thing? You have no right to come on this forum and makes such claims.
I guess ill steer clear from their domestic HCG...
PandaRep
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Go find the post from Mands and his GH testing. Jano isn't the upstanding citizen you think.
Oh right, the one where I was paid off to provide a result... Oh wait, it has nothing to do with anything like that, so why would you mention that as if it was related to your claim in any way?
If the best thing you can pull on me is unrelated stuff from 2016, man...
Anyway, by all means, please, do continue.
TrennedOutLunatic
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It is not unrelated if it is related to the quality and the integrity of your testing.
I have had zero issues with you regarding both matters.
I know about the mands fuck up also.
Fair enough
TrennedOutLunatic
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TrennedOutLunatic
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Fuck ups are inevitable in this game man.
Doesn't mean they don't have good HCG.
But my opinion is,that for hcg in particular, I would be going pharma. And I am.
Yeah regardless of mostly from what I've read PPL has been good to go. But with HCG that was my debate spend $160 on a couple of bottles of ACG or spend $110 I'm seven bottles of HCG
notanothersnake
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These threads are almost funny any more... panda is like walmart. Some good shit, some bad shit, and they are big enough to not give a fuck about a few unhappy clients. There will always be more clients to take advantage of. They always have a comeback response, whether its plausible or not. I wouldnt give them my money, I'll take it somewhere else. I just read this shit for entertainment
Damn, this thread is HEATED. It's fucking -20 outside but it is hot as shit in here!
I just came to say that 3x response is not genetics, it is not I have seen studies (like this one) where people measure a 4x response to test injections AT THE LOWEST, however that was with WEEKLY injections of test E and the blood test was done 7 days after the previous injection (so at trough).
This means that their actual response was much, much higher, and if they were doing 2x or 3x per week injections, they certainly would have had a higher total test and thus that 4x response would've been 6x or 7x or perhaps even higher.
Broderick Chavez is fucking wrong, maybe yeah he sees a 3x response, but that would only be because the people he sees that in are using underdosed gear LOL
Personally, I get a 9x response to pharma test. 180 mg puts me at 1630 ng/dL. 500 mg puts me at 4,000-4,500. There are two explanations for a measly 3x response to test injections:
1. The test is underdosed
2. OP completely messed up their dose measurements and were taking half of what they thought they were (for example, someone accidentally would measured out .5 mL instead of 1 mL of 250mg/mL test E, meaning they are actually taking 250 mg per week instead of 500 like they thought they were). This DOES happen to people. I'll even admit that it happened to me with some NPP when I first started blasting years ago LOL, for some reason I thought the NPP was 200 mg/mL and it was really the standard 100, so I was only taking 175 mg per week instead of 350.
However, based off the OPs post where they say that they're taking 250 mg Test C on top of their 200 mg of pharma Test C, to me it looks like that UGL test C is basically just oil and they pretty much forgot to add the active ingredient to it.
@Xenophon178 here is a "fun" experiment for you to really figure this shit out:
Stop taking the UGL test C altogether and see what level your 200 mg of pharma TRT puts you at. Did you have pre-bloods where you were just on TRT? Like I said, 180 mg puts me at 1630. I wasn't clear as to whether you have pre-bloods, as you said you got on the UGL stuff at the same time you got on the TRT. If not, I highly recommend you just stop the UGL shit now, wait about 6 weeks for your bloods to stabilize fully, then get another test to see what your TRT has you at. If you're still at 1400, then you know you were injecting literal carrier oil with no test at all.
Another reason to do this is that getting stabilized on TRT is not an easy thing to do. It is a process and can be a long one. It took be a solid 9-10 months to get my protocol dialed in. Trying different injection frequencies, different AI dosing frequencies, playing with when I took my HCG, etc. It'd be good for you to get that dialed in before starting a blast. Plus, if you were truly low T before this, you are going to see really amazing gains just from the TRT alone. My suggestion would be to milk those gains for a year or so before doing a full fledged blast, or maybe if you want to do a cycle, throw 250 mg of NPP on top your TRT--I say NPP because it hardly aromatizes so it really won't affect your TRT protocol and you'll still be able to use that time to dial in.
Just some things to think about. Hopefully it helps. The science is out on this, a 3x response is bullshit. My doc says he normally sees 5x-9x response and the main driver is how much body fat the person has, as higher body fat means more aromatization.
Anyway, good luck to you bro. Let me know if you have any questions!
TonyTwoPosts
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If he is a fraud, then it would be easy for a company with as many resources as yours to expose him, but you are making yourself less trustworthy with every post. My advice next time would be to just shut the fuck up and not respond to anything.
For shits and giggle if i decided to throw some money out on the line and try us domestic hcg.
The Pregnacy test pick up as low as 20mcg of hcg correct. Id dilute it all the down to 50mcg and test it. Yoy giys think its worth giving it a test
The Pregnacy test pick up as low as 20mcg of hcg correct. Id dilute it all the down to 50mcg and test it. Yoy giys think its worth giving it a test
TrennedOutLunatic
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You gonna dilute it down to increased concentration?
Edit: mistake. I understood wrong.
You could try it yes
Edit: mistake. I understood wrong.
You could try it yes
rasengan
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He has done it in the past with hgh lol
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