Simply Shredding!

[meistugh]

Hey all, I'm posting this for feedback and advice, and to keep as accurate of a log as I can as I progress through my journey. Comment away and help me out if you want. I'm really serious about getting peeled as quickly as possible. Thanks for tuning in! Trying to keep things as simple as possible.

Stats:
5'11"
35 years
214lbs
17%bf
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Goals: Shred up
Stay between 205-210lbs at cruise, while cut to 6% or less BF (impossible)?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Cycle:
April
1,500mg test cyp week 1-4
350mg tren ace week 1-4
100mg anadrol ed week 1-4

May:
1,000mg test cyp week 5-8
525mg tren ace week 5-8
10mg halo ed week 7-8

June:
750mg test cyp week 9-12
700mg tren ace week 9-12
100mg anadrol ed week 9-12
10mg halo ed week 9-10

July:
750mg test cyp week 13-14 then drop
1,000mg tren ace week 13-15 then drop
150mg anadrol ed 15-16

Week 15-16 measure BF

August:
30mg test prop ed week 17
240mg test cyp week 17~
No PCT, cruise on 240mg test cyp until bulk (10-12 weeks cruising)?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ancillaries:
.25mg adex eod (dropped to e3d at cruise)
.5mg pramipexole ed (through week 16)
15mg cialis ed indefinitely
375mcg hCG M,W,F indefinitely
200mg doxycycline ed 12 weeks
50mcg t3 ed week 2-13
melanotan 2 year round
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Supplements:
multivitamin
vitamin D3
vitamin K (on order)
zinc
cod liver oil
milk thistle
NAC
magnesium-taurate
potassium-citrate
creatine
melatonin
l-lysine
EAAs (on order)
pre-workout (on order)
nexium/tums
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Diet: Rotate calories/carbs/fats
268g protein 1,072 calories
68g fat 612 calories
257g carbs 1,028 calories
2,712 calories (~500kcal deficit)

7:00am - Cardio (LISS) M-Sat weeks 1-16
-1 sugar free monster
30 min fasted weeks 1-4
40 min fasted weeks 5-8
50 min fasted weeks 9-12

9:00am - Meal 1:
-1C egg whites
-greens/onions/tomatoes
-3 whole eggs
-2 packs instant oats
52g protein, 62g carbs, 16g fat

11:00-11:30: nap time

12:00pm - Meal 2:
-6oz cooked chicken breast
-280g cooked white rice
-steamed/sauteed veggies
-1tbsp cod liver oil
54g protein, 78g carbs, 20g fat

1:30pm - Train
Pre/Intra-workout:
-preworkout + water
-EAAs + 16oz Coconut water
0g protein, 20g carbs, 0g fat

3:00pm - Meal 3: PWO
-16oz orange juice
-170g raspberries
-1 banana
-2 scoops whey protein
54g protein, 97g carbs, 0g fat

6:00pm - Meal 4:
-6oz cooked chicken breast
-steamed/sauteed veggies/salad
-1.5tbsp pesto sauce
54g protein, 0g carbs, 16g fat

8:00pm - Cardio M-Sat weeks 13-16
30 min LISS week 13
40 min LISS week 14
50 min LISS week 15-16

9:00pm - Meal 5:
-6oz cooked chicken breast
-steamed/sauteed veggies/salad
-1.5tbsp pesto sauce
54g protein, 0g carbs, 16g fat

*No pwo shake/intra on rest days (lower carb)
*No carbs during breakfast on rest days (add in extra tbsp cod liver oil or small avocado)
*1 high carb refeed day a week (500g+)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Notes:
Ramipril on hand
Donate blood every 56 days
No sarms, hgh, slin, seo, or peptides (want to keep things simple)
I know doses are high, but i dont use pharm grade
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Training:
Whatever isn't sore, 2-3 on 1 off approach, emphasis on chest/calves/upper lats/triceps
Stretch/foam roll + light abs every morning before/after AM cardio
Utilize straight sets 10-12 rep range/short rest period mainly
Throw in different style sets (failure, density, pyramids) every other workouk/exercise movement dependent

 

[Logan44551]

That's a lot of gear for a cut. Are you on trt or do you PCT?

 

[Jestopherson]

That's a lot of gear for a cut. Are you on trt or do you PCT?

Yeah Jeezus.

Man I don't personally understand why you'd need anywhere near that much. Whole point of gear on a cut is to maintain mass. And at 5'11" 214lbs. Likely close to 20% bf. You don't have a shit ton of mass to find to hang on to.

I was going to cut with literally 200mg test 200mg Primo and 2-3ius of gh..

 

[TrenBolognaSandwich]

Is this one of those if I pin like a PRO's or more than them I will look like them sort of thread?

 

[malfeasance]

5'11"
35 years
214lbs
17%bf
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Goals: Shred up
Stay between 205-210lbs at cruise, while cut to 6% or less BF (impossible)?

I hestitate to say "impossible," but I do not find it likely.

Look at it this way. Assuming your 17% body fat is accurate (and if it is not Dexa Scan or hydrostatic weighing, it is not accurate at all, so post a pic), then you are right now carrying 37 pounds of fat.

Picture 37 pounds of fat for a moment.

177 pounds is lean mass (muscle, bone, brain, etc.)

At 205 pounds and 6%, you would literally be able to win your first bodybuilding competition.

Does that seem realistic for a 17 week goal?

Most guys prep for 16 weeks, and that is after bulking up all off season.

At 205 pounds and 6%, you will have 12 pounds of fat and 193 pounds of lean mass.

So you are asking, in the span of 17 weeks, to grow 16 pounds of muscle (not water, not fat, pure muscle) and lose 25 pounds of fat at the same time.


Now maybe you are some sort of genetic freak. I don't know you or your genetic code.

But most likely, you are not a genetic freak, and, even more likely, you do not know much about diet for bodybuilding (or you would not be 214 at 17%). These are two strikes against you.

So, instead, set a goal of cutting.

You will not be 205 pounds at the end. That is ok. Accept it.

Drop down to 6%.

Then set a goal of growing. You will be shocked how quickly those muscles fill out like balloons when you start a bulk at a real 6% body fat.

Then maybe win that competition next year, after you have added some size and are ready for a 16 week prep to contest day.

 

[malfeasance]

Is this one of those if I pin like a PRO's or more than them I will look like them sort of thread?

Well, in fairness, you aren't going to look like them on 250 mg a week of testosterone, even if you do have the genetic potential to be an IFBB pro.

 

[malfeasance]

I hestitate to say "impossible," but I do not find it likely.

Look at it this way. Assuming your 17% body fat is accurate (and if it is not Dexa Scan or hydrostatic weighing, it is not accurate at all, so post a pic), then you are right now carrying 37 pounds of fat.

Picture 37 pounds of fat for a moment.

177 pounds is lean mass (muscle, bone, brain, etc.)

At 205 pounds and 6%, you would literally be able to win your first bodybuilding competition.

Does that seem realistic for a 17 week goal?

Most guys prep for 16 weeks, and that is after bulking up all off season.

At 205 pounds and 6%, you will have 12 pounds of fat and 193 pounds of lean mass.

So you are asking, in the span of 17 weeks, to grow 16 pounds of muscle (not water, not fat, pure muscle) and lose 25 pounds of fat at the same time.


Now maybe you are some sort of genetic freak. I don't know you or your genetic code.

But most likely, you are not a genetic freak, and, even more likely, you do not know much about diet for bodybuilding (or you would not be 214 at 17%). These are two strikes against you.

So, instead, set a goal of cutting.

You will not be 205 pounds at the end. That is ok. Accept it.

Drop down to 6%.

Then set a goal of growing. You will be shocked how quickly those muscles fill out like balloons when you start a bulk at a real 6% body fat.

Then maybe win that competition next year, after you have added some size and are ready for a 16 week prep to contest day.

Oh, and one more benefit. You get to enjoy this summer with abs instead of a dad bod.

 

[TrenBolognaSandwich]

Well, in fairness, you aren't going to look like them on 250 mg a week of testosterone, even if you do have the genetic potential to be an IFBB pro.

True but I never pinned so much test in my life and don't think i'd ever be tempted to go near 1.5g of test especially with all that tren on top of it

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

Why don’t up tren to 2000mg weekly and anadrol to 500mg ED? I would add 20iu of HGH , 1000mg of DNP ED, some LASIX, something like 400mcg clenbuterol 2 days on 2 days off, 450mcg T3 , 400mcg T4, 1 box of Ephedrine Caffeine Yohimbine Aspirine ED, some Napalm, and I would do 4 hours cardio HIIT daily, would add some Cloprostenol and Methyl Tren too.. and then some skydiving without parachute

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

I guess you’re a 20 yo Bostin Loyd kind of guy... good luck bro...

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

Look at my avatar pic... that was my second cycle and it was a recomp.. pic has been taken on 6th week.. 3500 kcals, 150mg of tren ace weekly, 40mg anadrol pre wo , 200mg boldenone weekly, 600mg test enanth weekly, 450mg Primobolan weekly, 25mg aromasin ETD...

Yes 150mg tren weekly... do what the fuck do you wanna , you’re just a clueless idiot... and I bet we won’t lose one of the brightest mind ever in this world... 6% body fat as soon as possible...

shivers... I just have shivers... it’s thanks to idiots like you that bodybuilding scene sucks.. really I would kick you badly in your ass, you’re fuckin disrespecting body building and pharmacology..

you don’t deserve to be peeled, you just deserve to stay natty and gettin fat .. I think the tren j started Monday had really kicked in... but you kno... reading such bullshit makes me feel so fuckin angry...

 

[TrenBolognaSandwich]

I guess you’re a 20 yo Bostin Loyd kind of guy... good luck bro...

Didn't realize he made same thread twice as that's basically what I've said myself trying to out pin the pro's with the amount of gear

 

[meistugh]

Thanks for the feedback gents. Yeah I know my goals are lofty, and I don't think I'm a genetic freak at all, but I'm still going to give it my all. As far as my diet is concerned, do you see anywhere I can improve what I have laid out? I know it's not super detailed and pretty generic, but I'm trying to keep things simple and balance my life with meeting my goals.

I'm on a TRT regimen and I stopped working out for a while due to life circumstances and COVID-19.

I know I made a duplicate thread, but I'll be posting in this one from now on, so thanks for taking the time to chime in and give some insight.

Update: Yesterday was a cardio only day, as I donated blood and didn't want to exert myself afterwards. I also ate less carbs, and my caloric intake was lower due to not having a PWO shake.

Today, stretch/cardio/abs this morning as scheduled, was a breeze. Did cycling and kept my heart rate between 125-135 bpm. I really enjoy waking up early and getting this out of the way as it allows me to clear my mind and ponder my day. Also, I get a chance to listen to new music and add songs to my playlist while I'm doing the cardio. I'm big into music while exercising, as it really gets me pumped and sets a certain tone.

I was a little behind schedule today but I managed to get into the gym about 1:45pm and hit chest/tris. To be honest, I didn't have the greatest lift session, as I was pretty depleted, and I also felt decently winded during most of my straight sets. I warmed up 10 minutes cycling before lifting, which I only normally do on leg day to get things in motion, and I think that set my heart rate up a little high going into things. So, I took a little extra time between sets to make sure I had enough oxygen to actually finish my working sets.

Even though I was a little depleted and tired today, I still felt really strong in the gym. My pumps weren't insane due to low glycogen stores from eating low carb yesterday, however I still felt like I could life all day, my endurance was through the roof. I can only attribute this to the drol/tren. It's a really interesting combination, and coupled with the high test, strength is pretty unreal. I have to make sure to pace myself as not to acquire injuries.

My left bicep has had a little tingle/tightness to it for the past month or so, due to, I think, holding my baby son on that one side consistently for long periods of time. I'm considering ordering some TB-500/BPC 157 to aid in recovery. However, I'm not certain about doing this, as some days it doesn't bother me at all.

I will post a picture when I get the chance to. I'm probably between 17-20% roughly. So yes, not a lot of mass, but even if I could stay between 195-200lbs by the end and be shredded, I'd be very pleased with this cycle. Is maingaining a real thing, and if so, wouldn't I need to eat slightly more calories than I currently am to attempt such? Honestly, I just want to be shredded, no matter the weight at the end.

Until tomorrow.

 

[eery]

is this a joke?

 

[TrennedOutLunatic]

Test
Tren
Mast
Eat
Train
Zyzz
Sleep

Test/tren/Mast total<1000mg
Eat maintenance
Train till you vomit
Sleep 8h ed.
Don't do recreational drugs.


Keep it bovine. Don't complicate shit.
Complicating is the recipe for failure.

Good luck.

 

[Jet Labs]

Hey all, I'm posting this for feedback and advice, and to keep as accurate of a log as I can as I progress through my journey. Comment away and help me out if you want. I'm really serious about getting peeled as quickly as possible. Thanks for tuning in! Trying to keep things as simple as possible.

Stats:
5'11"
35 years
214lbs
17%bf
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Goals: Shred up
Stay between 205-210lbs at cruise, while cut to 6% or less BF (impossible)?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Cycle:
April
1,500mg test cyp week 1-4
350mg tren ace week 1-4
100mg anadrol ed week 1-4

May:
1,000mg test cyp week 5-8
525mg tren ace week 5-8
10mg halo ed week 7-8

June:
750mg test cyp week 9-12
700mg tren ace week 9-12
100mg anadrol ed week 9-12
10mg halo ed week 9-10

July:
750mg test cyp week 13-14 then drop
1,000mg tren ace week 13-15 then drop
150mg anadrol ed 15-16

Week 15-16 measure BF

August:
30mg test prop ed week 17
240mg test cyp week 17~
No PCT, cruise on 240mg test cyp until bulk (10-12 weeks cruising)?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ancillaries:
.25mg adex eod (dropped to e3d at cruise)
.5mg pramipexole ed (through week 16)
15mg cialis ed indefinitely
375mcg hCG M,W,F indefinitely
200mg doxycycline ed 12 weeks
50mcg t3 ed week 2-13
melanotan 2 year round
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Supplements:
multivitamin
vitamin D3
vitamin K (on order)
zinc
cod liver oil
milk thistle
NAC
magnesium-taurate
potassium-citrate
creatine
melatonin
l-lysine
EAAs (on order)
pre-workout (on order)
nexium/tums
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Diet: Rotate calories/carbs/fats
268g protein 1,072 calories
68g fat 612 calories
257g carbs 1,028 calories
2,712 calories (~500kcal deficit)

7:00am - Cardio (LISS) M-Sat weeks 1-16
-1 sugar free monster
30 min fasted weeks 1-4
40 min fasted weeks 5-8
50 min fasted weeks 9-12

9:00am - Meal 1:
-1C egg whites
-greens/onions/tomatoes
-3 whole eggs
-2 packs instant oats
52g protein, 62g carbs, 16g fat

11:00-11:30: nap time

12:00pm - Meal 2:
-6oz cooked chicken breast
-280g cooked white rice
-steamed/sauteed veggies
-1tbsp cod liver oil
54g protein, 78g carbs, 20g fat

1:30pm - Train
Pre/Intra-workout:
-preworkout + water
-EAAs + 16oz Coconut water
0g protein, 20g carbs, 0g fat

3:00pm - Meal 3: PWO
-16oz orange juice
-170g raspberries
-1 banana
-2 scoops whey protein
54g protein, 97g carbs, 0g fat

6:00pm - Meal 4:
-6oz cooked chicken breast
-steamed/sauteed veggies/salad
-1.5tbsp pesto sauce
54g protein, 0g carbs, 16g fat

8:00pm - Cardio M-Sat weeks 13-16
30 min LISS week 13
40 min LISS week 14
50 min LISS week 15-16

9:00pm - Meal 5:
-6oz cooked chicken breast
-steamed/sauteed veggies/salad
-1.5tbsp pesto sauce
54g protein, 0g carbs, 16g fat

*No pwo shake/intra on rest days (lower carb)
*No carbs during breakfast on rest days (add in extra tbsp cod liver oil or small avocado)
*1 high carb refeed day a week (500g+)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Notes:
Ramipril on hand
Donate blood every 56 days
No sarms, hgh, slin, seo, or peptides (want to keep things simple)
I know doses are high, but i dont use pharm grade
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Training:
Whatever isn't sore, 2-3 on 1 off approach, emphasis on chest/calves/upper lats/triceps
Stretch/foam roll + light abs every morning before/after AM cardio
Utilize straight sets 10-12 rep range/short rest period mainly
Throw in different style sets (failure, density, pyramids) every other workouk/exercise movement dependent

How much crack did you smoke before you typed this out? 1 gram of tren a week......fucking idiot!

 

[Jet Labs]

Why 2 different threads about the same ridiculous cycle?

Simply Shredding!

Hey all, I'm posting this for feedback and advice, and to keep as accurate of a log as I can as I progress through my journey. Comment away and help me out if you want. I'm really serious about getting peeled as quickly as possible. Thanks for tuning in! Trying to keep things as simple as...

thinksteroids.com

 

[meistugh]

It was a mistake on my part. Please ignore the other thread.

Anyway, here are some before shots. I'm pretty depleted in these.

 

[Jet Labs]

Please explain to me why the fuck you think you need 1500mgs of test per week and 1000mgs of tren per week? You really need to give your head a shake and think about your future health. Seriously you don't need more than 600mgs/ew of combined gear. Less drugs, more effort and more knowledge!

 

[TrenBolognaSandwich]

It was a mistake on my part. Please ignore the other thread.

Anyway, here are some before shots. I'm pretty depleted in these.

You can look like that without touching a single dose of gear, never mind the crazy doses you lined out just saying. Better fix your diet instead