JuicePal Scam?

[kastro]

I still would never give out my board handle to someone that also has a name and address. Regardless of why the UGL asks for it. These boards are anonymous. You’re risking your anonymity for no reason.

Selective scamming happens.Send vets and mods good gear gets them gtg's.

 

[lifter6973]

nobody cares if he thinks hes tom cruise. he has great gear. he test it.. some of you little pussies always have something to cry about. some of you need to GET LAID

You seem to think being ignorant and disrespectful makes you a tough guy, it doesn't you simple cunt.

 

[SponsorJuicePal]

Couple of things. There are solid members of the Community using jp and enjoying the product. That doesn't mean he isn't a ugl and we've seen popular ugl's fall off and have bad batches. Its why one of the quotes we see around here is "Ugl's are only as good as their last batch"...or similar. Meaning what's good today may not be good tomorrow.

A ugl testing finished product before selling to the public is how things should be done. Its how ALP and karius has done things for years before jp and anyone else was doing it.

If I was jp I wouldn't reimburse for individual blood tests to test levels in the users blood. To mean anything the user has to have baseline results(bloodwork with no gear in his system) and then results on genuine pharmacy grade testosterone and finally results on the same mg of ugl Testosterone as he was taking when he had bloods done on the pharmacy grade test. Then results mean something,,,to that individual.

HPLC testing is what benefits the Community. I would like to see jp reimburse for HPLC testing. JP said this testing costs him $80. That is @janoshik's discounted price for labs or individuals who test often. Regular folks who send a product in once in a while or before starting their cycle will pay a bit more, $100 I believe with Jano. The other labs are a little more but just as good.

Another benefit of using Jano's service is that Jano is always around and can be tracked down without much of a problem. The other labs aren't posting actively....as far as I know.
More testing is always a good thing, in meso's opinion.(yes, I'm speaking for the board).

It would show that jp supports the members of the Community if he was to reimburse with store credit for HPLC testing. It would get more product out there and it isn't going to be a financial burden. How many guys actually send out to test? A very small %. But then, its easy for me to spend jp's money for him.

Jp used the word "transparent". Reimbursing would show that he is being as transparent as possible. He feels he is doing enough, obviously? He hasn't used the word "Overkill' but it appears that it may fit as an answer as to WHY he won't reimburse for the test?

As far as members giving jp their board handle when placing an order...It really has nothing to do with an "Invasion of privacy" as he suggests that it does...I don't understand what he means by that?

I don't understand the members he says are concerned about being "selectively scammed" by giving their handle, either? How exactly would that happen? I can see it being "Targeted Scamming" if he doesn't happen to like a certain member he knows who is ordering from him. But selective doesn't wash.

The real issue with a source/ugl knowing which handles are associated with the orders the ugl takes is what a ugl owner might do if he was angry enough at a member and he knew that members real name and address.

Some members carry more weight than others when it comes to negative posts about a ugl. There isn't anything that matters more to a drug dealer than his money. Jp,,,you should really work on getting over your problem with being labeled a drug dealer. Not all drug dealers are bad guys. You also don't ease concerns that you're a hothead who comes across, at times, as a guy abusing his preworkout supps.

Its a good thing that you don't require handles and longer. You would be the example of a guy who could possibly get worked up enough to lash out and do so with a feeling of being right for doing so.
We had a source here who was also on Bostin Loyd's board who threatened 2 of our members with giving their personal info to the FBI for not keeping their issue with receiving counterfeit Humatrope off the open board. He threw in a threat of sending one guy a Hot Pack for good measure. Adnan sanat is the source.

Every source will say they are above such wickedness...until they aren't. A source on a successful run will also say that $$ isn't the most important thing to them. This is also easy to say when times are good. In lean times or when a series of less than favorable posts by members with influence take a bite out of his cash flow, its funny how priorities change and how money regains the top spot on the list of importance. Money is why these guys start selling online in the first place.

Lastly, I'm wondering if being on the radar of LE is ever going to be a concern? With each month that goes by the odds of meeting a not so nice ending become more of a real issue, does it not?
I hope you, jp, aren't implying that you are in some way, protected by members of LE? Please don't suggest that you have a following among LE who will look the other way or give you the "Heads Up"?

Let's see...someone in this thread mentioned Vis Vires. Owner of this ugl is a retired police officer out of Oklahoma serving 9 years for steroid distribution and money laundering.
Dynasty Labs. The owner of this ugl was first indicted for steroid distribution while being on active duty as a Philadelphia Police Officer, He was fired and then indicted a second time by the feds after a mass email at musclechemistry.co* was sent to members....one who was a Maryland Police Officer who after receiving the unsolicited email placed an order in an undercover capacity. He paid and received that first of 2 orders he placed.

The owner of Dynasty, had a release date of 3/15/2021. He was sentenced in Jan of 2020. He was out on pretrial release up until his sentencing day when he was given a # of weeks to turn himself into the federal facility he was designated to which was an FCI in Maryland.
He very well may not have spent any time behind bars. Depending on how helpful he was he may have been able to serve his ridiculously short sentence in a halfway house.
If not he spent a few months in protective custody. Former police officers aren't usually welcomed with complimentary coffee and a tour of the facility by inmates.

It sounds as if jp would have us believe that LE doesn't consider steroids as issue and that there isn't much to worry about? From distributor to the end user, LE has bigger fish to fry?

Minimizing the dangers may help you get through the day, jp, but its a reckless position to take if you are implying that you and your customers don't have anything to worry about. Should I list the ugl's that have been busted since you hit the scene? Federal and local busts are not in short supply.

I don't have to ask as I can tell by his "Blue Lives Matter" tone that jp is a supporter of LE and would be lobbying for their use of PED's to combat the real criminals...which he is of course not(He doesn't consider himself a criminal)...but he's too busy brewing gear for them.
He believes himself to be that unique(only in his own eyes) kind of guy who engages in all kinds of criminal activity but will have us all believe that he has friends in LE who, if he's progressed to a level of denial that is beyond delusional, would keep him safe should they hear he has become a focus of an investigation by a branch of LE.

I've seen this kind of narcissism in some folks before. Its not healthy and not reality. Jp may not admit to believing all I just laid out...but I'm closer than he likes to admit.

At some point domestic ugl's have to switch things up. Go dark and come back rebranded. I don't know how long jp has been up and running but it doesn't sound like there are any plans to protect himself. He likes his minor celebrity way to much and his ego has him believing he's something he's not...untouchable.

Whats wrong with being a supporter of LE? you guys want to defund them so you can break into stores and rob merchandise... You guys want to defund them because you expect them to use a stun gun on someone walking towards them with a knife....or a criminal suspect that has their hands in their pockets not obeying orders. ITs very simple, obey LE and everything will be fine.


And you say money is why sources go on here on the first place, of course but it doesnt mean you cant make great money while keeping your morals. Look at gorilla pharma, had the opportunity to probably scam 100k+ usd worth of orders before people caught on . And instead he retired and all customers were taken care of, he didnt accept new orders to pocket their money. Not every source is out to fuck you over. Majority are yes. Majority are pieces of shits. But good thing is karma is real and usually catches up to them sooner or later.


And you dont think someone's long thousand post history + on a forum tied their name is not an invasion of privacy? Some guys post shit that they are police officers on the forum, or post about cheating on their wife, some guys use the forums to vent and post a lot of personal things... You dont see how it could be an invasion of their privacy to have their name attached to their forum username in my email????


And for the last time, ALP and karius DO NOT test ALL their products. Look at their hplc reports and look at mine.

And you mention Adana? Yes i know Adana, bostin loyd kicked him off the forums.

He told me in a email that he does not credit people for testing. He said “why would I pay people to have testing done when I do all my own testing. Which, who the fuck is going to trust that statement ” BTW, Why would he ask you to send a sample in? Sounds premeditated by him to me. That is not considered blind testing. He sends you products he knows is on point or 10% higher, tells you I will credit you on testing these specific products. Sounds like bait and switch to me.

your mistake is that you think i care about your trust. I dont.

Answer me this, if money was my only concern, why dont i source on BOP ,eroids ,hardcore obdybuilding anabolicsteriods, rippedmass, muscleguros, anasci ,saradas, musclechemistry ,anabolic architech, eroids anabolicboard etc.
if money is my #1 priority why am i not on these forums like my competitors? to make as much money as i can? money is not everything i will always have my morals.

Also, your post "He sends you products he knows is on point or 10% higher, tells you I will credit you on testing these specific products."

Wtf? I told him i am sending him untested batches since they are fresh,and offered him to send it in for testing so he knows exactly what he is getting as he is a competitor. OTherwise i would send in my new batches for testing myself. Regardless they need to be tested as they are new batches let it be or him. so i offered him the opportunity. And after he tests the name on the report will be JUICEPAL. not ATHLETE. I actually do this for some of my existing high level customers .

And i dont need to test my finished deca product. I tested the RAW and i weighed the product correctly with the tested raws i know the deca is dosed accurately.

 

[muscletrain]

You seem to think being ignorant and disrespectful makes you a tough guy, it doesn't you simple cunt.

edit wrong thread/reply.

 

[Athlete127]

You seem to think being ignorant and disrespectful makes you a tough guy, it doesn't you simple cunt.

Lmao shutup pussy. Meso is nothing but disrespectful people nothing new

 

[lifter6973]

Lmao shutup pussy. Meso is nothing but disrespectful people nothing new

I'd like to see you try to make me shut up you mealy mouthed bitch.

 

[justanoob]

And i dont need to test my finished deca product. I tested the RAW and i weighed the product correctly with the tested raws i know the deca is dosed accurately.

Not saying it’s not dosed accurately, but what if someone were to purchase the Deca and send it in for testing and the testing came back poor or underdosed?

Again, not saying that it would since you said the RAW was tested, I’m just asking for hypotheticals. I know you do not source here, but I spend more time on these boards then others like ASF, so while you’re here I’m just trying ask what I can.

 

[Athlete127]

I'd like to see you try to make me shut up you mealy mouthed bitch.

Little skinny bitch I bet you are. You probably play on tik tok too

 

[lifter6973]

Little skinny bitch I bet you are. You probably play on tik tok too

What is tik tok bitch?

 

[Athlete127]

What is tik tok bitch?

Post some progress pics of yourself master gear

 

[lifter6973]

Post some progress pics of yourself master gear

Oh, so you are a fag too. You first bitch.
Oh fuck it, here you go loverboy. This is from my last show. I thought I was somewhat flat but you know, overall, I was pretty pleased with how I did.

 

[T-roy]

Whats wrong with being a supporter of LE? you guys want to defund them so you can break into stores and rob merchandise... You guys want to defund them because you expect them to use a stun gun on someone walking towards them with a knife....or a criminal suspect that has their hands in their pockets not obeying orders. ITs very simple, obey LE and everything will be fine.


And you say money is why sources go on here on the first place, of course but it doesnt mean you cant make great money while keeping your morals. Look at gorilla pharma, had the opportunity to probably scam 100k+ usd worth of orders before people caught on . And instead he retired and all customers were taken care of, he didnt accept new orders to pocket their money. Not every source is out to fuck you over. Majority are yes. Majority are pieces of shits. But good thing is karma is real and usually catches up to them sooner or later.


And you dont think someone's long thousand post history + on a forum tied their name is not an invasion of privacy? Some guys post shit that they are police officers on the forum, or post about cheating on their wife, some guys use the forums to vent and post a lot of personal things... You dont see how it could be an invasion of their privacy to have their name attached to their forum username in my email????


And for the last time, ALP and karius DO NOT test ALL their products. Look at their hplc reports and look at mine.

And you mention Adana? Yes i know Adana, bostin loyd kicked him off the forums.

your mistake is that you think i care about your trust. I dont.

Answer me this, if money was my only concern, why dont i source on BOP ,eroids ,hardcore obdybuilding anabolicsteriods, rippedmass, muscleguros, anasci ,saradas, musclechemistry ,anabolic architech, eroids anabolicboard etc.
if money is my #1 priority why am i not on these forums like my competitors? to make as much money as i can? money is not everything i will always have my morals.

Also, your post "He sends you products he knows is on point or 10% higher, tells you I will credit you on testing these specific products."

Wtf? I told him i am sending him untested batches since they are fresh,and offered him to send it in for testing so he knows exactly what he is getting as he is a competitor. OTherwise i would send in my new batches for testing myself. Regardless they need to be tested as they are new batches let it be or him. so i offered him the opportunity. And after he tests the name on the report will be JUICEPAL. not ATHLETE. I actually do this for some of my existing high level customers .

And i dont need to test my finished deca product. I tested the RAW and i weighed the product correctly with the tested raws i know the deca is dosed accurately.

Do you actually listen yourself? You talk out both sides of your mouth. You say you don’t give two shits about anybody’s trust, unless there Famous, LE and or Competitors. Then you have the balls to admit You’ve hand picked a specific Athlete /competitor to send in your New Batch of finished products in for testing, WTF! Talk about being selective. Makes sense why you want members handles, to see if they carry any weight. Here’s the deal J.P, you don’t know who I am or anybody else for that matter and just how much weight we carry. With that being said, It’s common practice to treat all your customer’s equally. You should try this, instead of being a Hothead constantly stepping on your dick!

 

[Athlete127]

Oh, so you are a fag too. You first bitch.
Oh fuck it, here you go loverboy. This is from my last show. I thought I was somewhat flat but you know, overall, I was pretty pleased with how I did.

thats not you loser

 

[biggerben69]

Lmao shutup pussy. Meso is nothing but disrespectful people nothing new

No wonder you fit in nicely. You've passed around a good number of insults. Me? I'd rather post thick walls of useless text and bore folks to death. Maybe have them fall out at their computer reading my drivel and have the wife creep up behind then and catch them with a window open to their last Tinder hook up. I have the power to do these things.

 

[Athlete127]

No wonder you fit in nicely. You've passed around a good number of insults. Me? I'd rather post thick walls of useless text and bore folks to death. Maybe have them fall out at their computer reading my drivel and have the wife creep up behind then and catch them with a window open to their last Tinder hook up. I have the power to do these things.

do you take shrooms?

 

[SponsorJuicePal]

Do you actually listen yourself? You talk out both sides of your mouth. You say you don’t give two shits about anybody’s trust, unless there Famous, LE and or Competitors. Then you have the balls to admit You’ve hand picked a specific Athlete /competitor to send in your New Batch of finished products in for testing, WTF! Talk about being selective. Makes sense why you want members handles, to see if they carry any weight. Here’s the deal J.P, you don’t know who I am or anybody else for that matter and just how much weight we carry. With that being said, It’s common practice to treat all your customer’s equally. You should try this, instead of being a Hothead constantly stepping on your dick!

What do you mean i have the balls to admit? What part cant you understand, IT IS NOT A BLIND TEST. I OFFER HIM TO SEND IT IN FOR TESTING AND THE NAME ON THE REPORT WOULD HAVE BEEN JUICEPAL NOT ATHLETE. He is purchasing multiple fresh batch compounds therefore i offer him the opportunity because i need to send them in for testing regardless let it be him or me.

You want blind testing but you dont think i can bribe one of the many existing customers and say hey bro want to send this in for testing i can offer you $700 store credit(which is about $75 of my actual cost depending on the compound) and then fool you all into thinking it was blind test.

The tests are what they are, i can easisly bribe customers to start sending in some stuff for testing without my knowledge. its really not hard to do. But i dont.


Instead of talking shit to me, why dont you go after your other meso sources? One of them is using a gmail to host his website! So that means LE goes to gmail and demands a warrant for his email, then they see all orders going through so everyone importing stuff to the USA they know your full details justb y going through his gmail.

another source EDITED THE HPLC REPORT AND WAS CAUGHT. But still is sourcing on MESO and you arent talking shit to him.


Where are the lab pictures of your meso sources? I dont see them. Last sourcei almost pissed my pants when i saw the plastic crap in the mold infected basement...


You guys have sources on here that have had amphetamine found in their product with no recall issued, swept under the rug...


other source hair in vial...... mislabeled raws?


actually i cant think of any other forum thath as more bad sources than meso. kind of ironic. where you talk shit to the one source with active testing and pics of his labsetup but not any of your other shitty sources on here!

 

[SponsorJuicePal]

Not saying it’s not dosed accurately, but what if someone were to purchase the Deca and send it in for testing and the testing came back poor or underdosed?

Again, not saying that it would since you said the RAW was tested, I’m just asking for hypotheticals. I know you do not source here, but I spend more time on these boards then others like ASF, so while you’re here I’m just trying ask what I can.

If it came back underdosed then anyone who purchased deca would receive free testing on their product. Then hopefully when all the members have correctly dosed deca then people can see how far some jealously and hate can go with people needing to attempt to sabotage me....

 

[biggerben69]

Whats wrong with being a supporter of LE? you guys want to defund them so you can break into stores and rob merchandise... You guys want to defund them because you expect them to use a stun gun on someone walking towards them with a knife....or a criminal suspect that has their hands in their pockets not obeying orders. ITs very simple, obey LE and everything will be fine.

Spoken like a confederate flag flying white man.....not a person of color. Are you really going to tell me you and I experience the same levels of prejudice over the years? I've pretty much am resigned to the belief that I'll meet my maker courtesy of LE.

Follow instructions and I'll be fine? I'm pretty well spoken but am judged by the color of my skin. I don't have my diplomas hanging in the back window of my car,,,which by the way, I've been accused of selling drugs to purchase. I've barely uttered a sound when I've been told to "shut the fuck up" as well as had several of your people draw down on me while having my hands at 10 and 2 oclock.

I don't buy into "Roid Rage" but I do believe that if you're an asshole gear will amplify the asshole in you. When I was a kid, bad cops were the exception. These days its the good ones that are the exception.

 

[biggerben69]

What do you mean i have the balls to admit? What part cant you understand, IT IS NOT A BLIND TEST. I OFFER HIM TO SEND IT IN FOR TESTING AND THE NAME ON THE REPORT WOULD HAVE BEEN JUICEPAL NOT ATHLETE. He is purchasing multiple fresh batch compounds therefore i offer him the opportunity because i need to send them in for testing regardless let it be him or me.

You want blind testing but you dont think i can bribe one of the many existing customers and say hey bro want to send this in for testing i can offer you $700 store credit(which is about $75 of my actual cost depending on the compound) and then fool you all into thinking it was blind test.

The tests are what they are, i can easisly bribe customers to start sending in some stuff for testing without my knowledge. its really not hard to do. But i dont.


Instead of talking shit to me, why dont you go after your other meso sources? One of them is using a gmail to host his website! So that means LE goes to gmail and demands a warrant for his email, then they see all orders going through so everyone importing stuff to the USA they know your full details justb y going through his gmail.

another source EDITED THE HPLC REPORT AND WAS CAUGHT. But still is sourcing on MESO and you arent talking shit to him.


Where are the lab pictures of your meso sources? I dont see them. Last sourcei almost pissed my pants when i saw the plastic crap in the mold infected basement...


You guys have sources on here that have had amphetamine found in their product with no recall issued, swept under the rug...


other source hair in vial...... mislabeled raws?


actually i cant think of any other forum thath as more bad sources than meso. kind of ironic. where you talk shit to the one source with active testing and pics of his labsetup but not any of your other shitty sources on here!

Meso isn't a source board. A guy could open up selling snow globes in the Underground?

 

[Sp2.0]

What do you mean i have the balls to admit? What part cant you understand, IT IS NOT A BLIND TEST. I OFFER HIM TO SEND IT IN FOR TESTING AND THE NAME ON THE REPORT WOULD HAVE BEEN JUICEPAL NOT ATHLETE. He is purchasing multiple fresh batch compounds therefore i offer him the opportunity because i need to send them in for testing regardless let it be him or me.

You want blind testing but you dont think i can bribe one of the many existing customers and say hey bro want to send this in for testing i can offer you $700 store credit(which is about $75 of my actual cost depending on the compound) and then fool you all into thinking it was blind test.

The tests are what they are, i can easisly bribe customers to start sending in some stuff for testing without my knowledge. its really not hard to do. But i dont.


Instead of talking shit to me, why dont you go after your other meso sources? One of them is using a gmail to host his website! So that means LE goes to gmail and demands a warrant for his email, then they see all orders going through so everyone importing stuff to the USA they know your full details justb y going through his gmail.

another source EDITED THE HPLC REPORT AND WAS CAUGHT. But still is sourcing on MESO and you arent talking shit to him.


Where are the lab pictures of your meso sources? I dont see them. Last sourcei almost pissed my pants when i saw the plastic crap in the mold infected basement...


You guys have sources on here that have had amphetamine found in their product with no recall issued, swept under the rug...


other source hair in vial...... mislabeled raws?


actually i cant think of any other forum thath as more bad sources than meso. kind of ironic. where you talk shit to the one source with active testing and pics of his labsetup but not any of your other shitty sources on here!

This isn't the first time you've tried to shit on the way things are done here and what's allowed without backing up your claims. Psl isn't here so who edited the hplc tests? Who's sweeping shit under the rug and not being called on it?

I don't expect an answer. You seem to want to lash out and fling shit because everyone's not fluffing you saying how great you are. You're a legend in your own mind and seem to have enough g2g enablers to make you believe it. Since you don't want to be here and Meso's so shitty why do you continue to come back and try and pimp your label seeing how you're doing so well.