JuicePal Scam?

[SponsorJuicePal]

Do you have a link to the eroids thread?

And you think i cant bribe my existing customers to send stuff in for testing "without my knowledge" ? The only true blind test is the kind of thing that scoobs does on aasforum where he buys undercover and sends it off. Not loyal customers sending stuff in for testing. It is not hard to bribe a broke bodybuilder. But my morals wouldnt allow me to do it even though i can get away with it.

Usually the sources failing these test results are the ones that dont do active testing. And you ask me why im still here, but i always have been a MESO member and posted stuff unrelated to my lab. I just got pulled into this thread when people started libel about my brand, of course i am going to post.

With that said i am all for blind testing, and always willing to donate to the good cause to keep members safe. Only forum that has this is AASFourm however. Where 1 trusted member guys undercover.

Also we do have more blind hplc tests done than most sources fyi

 

[SkankHunt]

Do you have a link to the eroids thread?

And you think i cant bribe my existing customers to send stuff in for testing "without my knowledge" ? The only true blind test is the kind of thing that scoobs does on aasforum where he buys undercover and sends it off. Not loyal customers sending stuff in for testing. It is not hard to bribe a broke bodybuilder. But my morals wouldnt allow me to do it even though i can get away with it.

Usually the sources failing these test results are the ones that dont do active testing. And you ask me why im still here, but i always have been a MESO member and posted stuff unrelated to my lab. I just got pulled into this thread when people started libel about my brand, of course i am going to post.

With that said i am all for blind testing, and always willing to donate to the good cause to keep members safe. Only forum that has this is AASFourm however. Where 1 trusted member guys undercover.

Also we do have more blind hplc tests done than most sources fyi

I agree it’s stupid for existing customers to do it, but from what I’ve seen you’re a private source no? So that prevents me or others from doing blind testing. I have a bunch of diff proton accounts I use to buy from sources to stay anonymous.
I’m not trying to discredit you, you test your own products almost every month and that’s great. My opinion is I like to see blind testing done by guys not the source themself.
For Eroids the source was onlythebestaas. Instead of admitting his shit is bunk he’s denying it saying the oil is old and the product is compromised.
Same goes for the source Pharmqo. He’s posted the same results for his last 2 batches of primo that looked good. I’ve got a sample I’m sending out so hopefully it comes back good. If it doesn’t it proves a source testing his own shit means fuck all. To me at least.

 

[Obscured78]

I agree it’s stupid for existing customers to do it, but from what I’ve seen you’re a private source no? So that prevents me or others from doing blind testing. I have a bunch of diff proton accounts I use to buy from sources to stay anonymous.
I’m not trying to discredit you, you test your own products almost every month and that’s great. My opinion is I like to see blind testing done by guys not the source themself.
For Eroids the source was onlythebestaas. Instead of admitting his shit is bunk he’s denying it saying the oil is old and the product is compromised.
Same goes for the source Pharmqo. He’s posted the same results for his last 2 batches of primo that looked good. I’ve got a sample I’m sending out so hopefully it comes back good. If it doesn’t it proves a source testing his own shit means fuck all. To me at least.

He is NOT private. Nothing is preventing you from ordering.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Do you have a link to the eroids thread?

And you think i cant bribe my existing customers to send stuff in for testing "without my knowledge" ? The only true blind test is the kind of thing that scoobs does on aasforum where he buys undercover and sends it off. Not loyal customers sending stuff in for testing. It is not hard to bribe a broke bodybuilder. But my morals wouldnt allow me to do it even though i can get away with it.

Usually the sources failing these test results are the ones that dont do active testing. And you ask me why im still here, but i always have been a MESO member and posted stuff unrelated to my lab. I just got pulled into this thread when people started libel about my brand, of course i am going to post.

With that said i am all for blind testing, and always willing to donate to the good cause to keep members safe. Only forum that has this is AASFourm however. Where 1 trusted member guys undercover.

Also we do have more blind hplc tests done than most sources fyi

@justanoob asked if you would reimburse testing. That’s blind testing. You said you wouldn’t reimburse that. You only do that with the “body builders that regularly buy from you”.

 

[SkankHunt]

He is NOT private. Nothing is preventing you from ordering.

This is why we need to stop having threads with 30 pages of arguing. Could’ve sworn someone said he wasn’t looking to source here and he’s comfortable with his customers. I could very well be wrong, but I’m no re-reading this thread again lol.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

This is why we need to stop having threads with 30 pages of arguing. Could’ve sworn someone said he wasn’t looking to source here and he’s comfortable with his customers. I could very well be wrong, but I’m no re-reading this thread again lol.

He’s not looking to source here but he’s a source open to the public on a few other forums.

 

[SkankHunt]

He’s not looking to source here but he’s a source open to the public on a few other forums.

Ah gotcha. Thanks bro.

 

[justanoob]

With that said i am all for blind testing, and always willing to donate to the good cause to keep members safe. Only forum that has this is AASFourm however. Where 1 trusted member guys undercover.

I do agree that it would be quite easy for you to bribe some of your friends to send in stuff for “blind testing” that is why a lot of us here on Meso push for blind testing credit for anybody, not just covering it when it’s bodybuilding pros getting ready for a comp or if they’re worried.

Having true blind testing means I, or anyone who has never ordered from you before could place an order and send some stuff out for testing and feel confident knowing that there is a testing credit.

You have said a few times that currently you do not want to source here, and I get and respect that. I also respect how much testing you have done, I think it is great for the community. I’m just saying that personally I feel it would be nice having a standing credit like that, even if the credit was only for someone who place an order at x amount. Not that it matters, this was just my 2 cents.

 

[Cashton]

What wild claims are you talking about Cashton? Please be specific. I already called out the forum owner to private message me to verify my claims. Zero private messages received from him.

You really think i never had anyone use me that has beaten Phil health? i dont understand what claims you are calling wild of me.







And SkankHunt which sources have more recent test results than me?? Here are my test results, now show me your "sources here that had more testing done recently" than me.

We are also sending more stuff in for testing next week so we will have even more stuff tested in just 2 weeks.

Test results past 3 months. We are sending more stuff for testing in a week so will have may test results...

What sources on here have more recent testing done than me???



FEBRUARY 2021.
TEST ENANTHATE 250 — 244.39 mg
Janoshik Analytical
TEST ENANTHATE 400 —414.06 mg
Janoshik Analytical
TREN ACETATE 100 —– 108.43 mg
Janoshik Analytical
TREN ENANTHATE 200 — 216 mg
Janoshik Analytical
MAST PROP 100 — 104.32 mg
Janoshik Analytical
EQ 500 — 546.32 mg
Janoshik Analytical
NPP 150 — 159.80
Janoshik Analytical
PRIMO E 200 — 203.3
Janoshik Analytical
ANADROL 50 injectable —- 50.03 mg
Janoshik Analytical
DBOL 50 injectable —- 53.78
Janoshik Analytical
MAST E 200 —- 195.02
Janoshik Analytical
ANAVAR 10mg — 12.11 mg
Janoshik Analytical
ANAVAR 50 mg — 56.26
Janoshik Analytical
AROMASIN 25 mg — 26.88mg
Janoshik Analytical
HALOTESTIN 10 mg — 11.21 mg
Janoshik Analytical
Clen 40 mcg —–39.19 mcg (New item. With this test result, i can now release it to the public as clen is a delicate compound.)
https://janoshik.com/tests/10177-Pill_"18"_6J56D9MSVCNG
UPDATES
Primo-E 200 – 208 mg (new batch late february)

https://janoshik.com/tests/10401-AAS_oil_"2"_1FYDX6NLVLBD

EQ 500- 619 mg (New batch of EQ after other one sold out from just a few weeks ago)

https://janoshik.com/tests/10402-AAS_oil_"3"_875RCC9SS1QB


MARCH 2021

Mast E 200mg —- 209.43mg
Janoshik Analytical
Test E 250 mg — 284.86 mg
Janoshik Analytical
Mast Prop 100 mg — 106.48 mg
Janoshik Analytical
NPP 150 mg — 154.9 mg
Janoshik Analytical
Test Cypionate 250 — 256.9 mg
Janoshik Analytical
Halo 10 mg — 11.81
Janoshik Analytical




I was just in a thread where a member was trying to justify pharmacom's expensive prices saying he never heard anything bad about them giving them a g2g..... yet there are many bad hplc test results on them.... And there sister company had amphetamine found in their product and they never issued a recall to warn any of the other members... The member on ASF failed his probation test because of them....


And You mention bloodwork, but for the last time bloodwork does not mean anything. Why cant you understand this simple fact

You could get 1500 levels on 250 mg of test e a week. Then Suddenly get 700 levels due to scar tissue and other variables effecting on the same dosage .

The same person... Bloodwork doesnt mean anything . It can varry.
And especially with sources overdosing their testosterone so much. Some of you will say who cares. But like i said this is what is killing people. People are supposed to be cruising but they are ordering from sources that overdose their testosterone so much that they are blasting year round due to the overdosing.

Bloodwork does not mean anything.

just Carbs before BEd do not make you fat

These are all outdated information. You want to see quality, send your stuff in for hplc testing. Labmax is also bullshit and will give you false positives. Bloodwork varies.

I feel bad for any honest sources on here if a member actually gets "low bloodwork "and some of you think that source had bad test raws......

The Phil Heath, Boston Lloyd, hollywood actors, I’m not saying it’s not true brother; because from what I’ve heard you’re a pretty standup guy with good gear to match, so many be your claims and stories are real, it’s entirely possible, you’ve just gotta think about it from our point of view, it could seem these claims are for sure a little out there, because they are regardless if they’re true or not.

if I told you I sell gear to all these ifbb pros, and Ryan Reynolds, or mark whallburger and I know these guys, and they come to me for gear because I’m one of the top guys in Hollywood or whatever, the claim sounds pretty crazy though right? Now maybe it’s true, maybe it’s not, but there’s no way we’re going to verify that, do you just have to accept that some people will think these things you say might just be wild claims, doesn’t mean your juice isn’t good, or that you’re not a good business man, this is all just my opinion though.

 

[Cashton]

Do you have a link to the eroids thread?

And you think i cant bribe my existing customers to send stuff in for testing "without my knowledge" ? The only true blind test is the kind of thing that scoobs does on aasforum where he buys undercover and sends it off. Not loyal customers sending stuff in for testing. It is not hard to bribe a broke bodybuilder. But my morals wouldnt allow me to do it even though i can get away with it.

Usually the sources failing these test results are the ones that dont do active testing. And you ask me why im still here, but i always have been a MESO member and posted stuff unrelated to my lab. I just got pulled into this thread when people started libel about my brand, of course i am going to post.

With that said i am all for blind testing, and always willing to donate to the good cause to keep members safe. Only forum that has this is AASFourm however. Where 1 trusted member guys undercover.

Also we do have more blind hplc tests done than most sources fyi

You think our members don’t do blind testing?

 

[biggerben69]

He’s not looking to source here but he’s a source open to the public on a few other forums.

Jp isn't the first source not up for the challenge of sourcing here but doing all he can to enjoy the exposure that sources here have because of the traffic meso generates being google indexed and meso just being meso.

Couple of days ago @mugsy made a couple of posts in this thread. He commented on the downward trend, overall, as far as traffic is concerned on bodybuilding/Steroid forums.
He said the exception was eroids and Meso(meso was behind eroids).

Mugsy would know. He owns theironden.co* and ugbodybuilding.co*, among others, and has been around since the beginning.

I first met mugs on elitefitness.co* back in 1998 or so. Very smart guy who is also an executive for a Fortune 500 type company.

The owner of meso, @Millard , isn't ever going to contact jp. He would never be part of jp's charade to use meso to further his criminal enterprise. Because that's exactly what jp is doing and having a good laugh while doing so.

He most likely is paying his lapdog @Athlete127 by the post to keep this thread at the top for awhile and generate some new biz.

Jp coule pay to have a banner here at meso? We'll set you up alongside the other paying sponsors if you care to do things the right way, jp?

I would think this underhanded attempt to profit off the back of another mans hard work to be beneath you? You're successful. You believe yourself to be the best, why not pay your way? Be the businessman you say you are and not the lowlife drug dealer you're behaving like.

You've got your hypeman, Athlete127, who's holding the work and running up with his rag when cars stop at the red light trying to make a sale while washing windshields?

UndegroundFreak(think thats it?) Did it a few years ago. Evolutionary(the board) had its entire staff of grifters and ex Kirby salesmen register here under different handles than the ones they use at evo. They attempted to have as many of us register at evo as they could convince. It ended badly for both of those plans.

Jp has certainly grabbed some sales he wouldn't have otherwise had. You like owing another man?

I read a post here where a member said jp ships from the UK? Someone please lend a hand? Jp does ship to his usa customers from inside the usa, correct?

 

[lifter6973]

@justanoob asked if you would reimburse testing. That’s blind testing. You said you wouldn’t reimburse that. You only do that with the “body builders that have beaten Phil Heath and regularly buy from you. For example, @Athlete127.”.

Fixed

 

[biggerben69]

Have to ask @SponsorJuicePal or @Athlete127 a question; I was over to ASF and was checking out your reviews etc when I came across the real name(according to jp or whomever authored the rant thats blasted across pages where reviews are) of the Admin of gh15.org as well as current and past addresses of the admin who you say lives in Canada.

Then you also have the names, addresses, IP Addresses, of folks gh15 supposedly employs as receivers where you and other sponsors send board fees to.

You say that gh15 scammed you? The people you Doxxed work for gh15, correct?
See here...this is why we don't want hopped up lunatics such as yourself having our board handles.

You made a lot of money on that board and for many years you were thick as thieves(literally) with the admim, gh15, and gladly sent those receivers money.

You say gh15 scammed you out f $15k...which is a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things. Losing that money isn't going to cause your kids to go hungry or freeze cuz you can't pay the electric bill, correct? Its the principal I've heard you say?

So what if you were convinced that a product a customer sent to test and that came back dosed at half label claims was not your gear or was a product tampered with by the guy who sent it?
You go back and forth. He swears its what he was sent by your people and he tells his story on e every board you frequent?
I have no doubts we would read that customers real life info that you would post in retaliation even though you aren' t going to start driving a Prius. It would be the principal.
I'm glad you forced me to look at how you conduct yourself. You gonna dox me you fucking punk?

 

[justanoob]

Have to ask @SponsorJuicePal or @Athlete127 a question; I was over to ASF and was checking out your reviews etc when I came across the real name(according to jp or whomever authored the rant thats blasted across pages where reviews are) of the Admin of gh15.org as well as current and past addresses of the admin who you say lives in Canada.

Then you also have the names, addresses, IP Addresses, of folks gh15 supposedly employs as receivers where you and other sponsors send board fees to.

You say that gh15 scammed you? The people you Doxxed work for gh15, correct?
See here...this is why we don't want hopped up lunatics such as yourself having our board handles.

You made a lot of money on that board and for many years you were thick as thieves(literally) with the admim, gh15, and gladly sent those receivers money.

You say gh15 scammed you out f $15k...which is a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things. Losing that money isn't going to cause your kids to go hungry or freeze cuz you can't pay the electric bill, correct? Its the principal I've heard you say?

So what if you were convinced that a product a customer sent to test and that came back dosed at half label claims was not your gear or was a product tampered with by the guy who sent it?
You go back and forth. He swears its what he was sent by your people and he tells his story on e every board you frequent?
I have no doubts we would read that customers real life info that you would post in retaliation even though you aren' t going to start driving a Prius. It would be the principal.
I'm glad you forced me to look at how you conduct yourself. You gonna dox me you fucking punk?

I’m glad you brought this point up. I also was wondering something similar. Especially after seeing how defensive he got a few pages back when I simply asked “what if a customer would send in gear and the test would come back off”

Not to mention, if I remember correctly on ASF there was a complaint thread that had to get removed, then “cleaned up” before being visible again because JP and the customer both doxxed each other. The customer put JP shipping guys name out there, so JP retaliated.

Edit: Not sure if I’m allowed to post the thread over here but it was pretty recent.

 

[Cashton]

Have to ask @SponsorJuicePal or @Athlete127 a question; I was over to ASF and was checking out your reviews etc when I came across the real name(according to jp or whomever authored the rant thats blasted across pages where reviews are) of the Admin of gh15.org as well as current and past addresses of the admin who you say lives in Canada.

Then you also have the names, addresses, IP Addresses, of folks gh15 supposedly employs as receivers where you and other sponsors send board fees to.

You say that gh15 scammed you? The people you Doxxed work for gh15, correct?
See here...this is why we don't want hopped up lunatics such as yourself having our board handles.

You made a lot of money on that board and for many years you were thick as thieves(literally) with the admim, gh15, and gladly sent those receivers money.

You say gh15 scammed you out f $15k...which is a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things. Losing that money isn't going to cause your kids to go hungry or freeze cuz you can't pay the electric bill, correct? Its the principal I've heard you say?

So what if you were convinced that a product a customer sent to test and that came back dosed at half label claims was not your gear or was a product tampered with by the guy who sent it?
You go back and forth. He swears its what he was sent by your people and he tells his story on e every board you frequent?
I have no doubts we would read that customers real life info that you would post in retaliation even though you aren' t going to start driving a Prius. It would be the principal.
I'm glad you forced me to look at how you conduct yourself. You gonna dox me you fucking punk?

Juicepal isn’t the kind of guy I would want to buy my gear off of, I get perfectly good gear at a fair price with great customer service, I couldn’t imagine ever running into any kind of error or have to address something that maybe he messed up because I don’t think he would handle it well, maybe Boston and those Hollywood guys like buying their juice from douchebags though. Who knows..

 

[Cashton]

I’m glad you brought this point up. I also was wondering something similar. Especially after seeing how defensive he got a few pages back when I simply asked “what if a customer would send in gear and the test would come back off”

Not to mention, if I remember correctly on ASF there was a complaint thread that had to get removed, then “cleaned up” before being visible again because JP and the customer both doxxed each other. The customer put JP shipping guys name out there, so JP retaliated.

Edit: Not sure if I’m allowed to post the thread over here but it was pretty recent.

You can hit link it, just add it as a link with with the button up there and name it .

edit Like this, click here.

 

[justanoob]

The thread

 

[justanoob]

The thread was taken down, cleaned up then put visible again. I'm not saying the customer was right or wrong, and the customer definitly should NOT have put any names out there, but still, that would worry me him having my personal information should I have a negative review or show testing was bad.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Doxing and putting names out there is fucked no matter what.
Some guys could get readily FUCKED by having their shit put out on the laundry line.
It isnt cool, no matter what's up.

Especially some guys live in countries where gear is a problem.
Or even worse, getting exposed at their place of work/ getting looked st by LE.

 

[SkankHunt]

Doxing and putting names out there is fucked no matter what.
Some guys could get readily FUCKED by having their shit put out on the laundry line.
It isnt cool, no matter what's up.

Especially some guys live in countries where gear is a problem.
Or even worse, getting exposed at their place of work/ getting looked st by LE.

Pretty sure doxing will get you banned here. As it should.