Yes I was re-seller for Innovagen like 6-7 years ago and dealt with Teragon/Northern 9-10 years ago when they were good. When you re-sell for multiple brands throughout years then it's obvious what's good and what's bad because you get feedback from real bodybuilders and gym rats. On the forums, you don't know if the guy positing looks like shit or not. Many guys on forums are taking every steroid and if you see them in real life you would not give them time of day.
My point is unless you've done it on the streets for years then you are only exposed to what the forums let you see. That is completely different compared to the street....
Like I say before, if right now some new guy gets shit batch of product from a top lab. They post it on the forum, everybody will harass that guy. And yes that guy could be wrong, but u know what, it's a underground lab lol. They can easily fuck up. It is much more common than u may think or the forums make u believe. But people on the forum act like the fucking underground product is FDA approved, impossible to mess up the dose. Get real man. Chinese man can can rip them off and send 1 shit batch of raw. Lab owner may mess up dose or Lab owner maybe use employee and employee fuck up. So much shits can go wrong. It not fda lab where things are checked over and over. Easily bad produce can slip by....