For form on deadlifting do you want your shoulders above your hips at the bottom? Or is it ok to go parrelel to the ground? Either my strength or form or flexibility is messing that part up. Maybe i need to go lighter?
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wsmwannabe
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If your torso is parallel to the ground, that sounds like you're doing a straight/stiff leg deadlift, which is a lot of hamstrings and low back but no hips.
A good starting point to learn your starting position would be to roll the bar back into your shins, and bring your ass down until your (fully extended and locked out) arms are perpendicular to the ground
A good starting point to learn your starting position would be to roll the bar back into your shins, and bring your ass down until your (fully extended and locked out) arms are perpendicular to the ground
There are DOZENS of good deadlift videos. Critiquing and cueing deadlift is extremely difficult via text and without a video of your lift.
However....if your shoulders aren’t above your hips at the bottom of a deadlift I don’t even know where to start man. That’s horrendous form.
However....if your shoulders aren’t above your hips at the bottom of a deadlift I don’t even know where to start man. That’s horrendous form.
thanks thats what i thought.
Will have to reteach myself on form.
Dam, i dont even think i can do that without any weight. I was able to before covid. Than i took time off. Couldnt deadlift for a bit. Dammit!
It used to be. Ill take a video next time. Maybe its not as bad i am thinking. I grind my shins all the time. And have basically perfected the form before.
it is a hard exercise. Alot of form critiquing.
I guess i lost more than i thought, from not being able to for a while.
Edit- i was doing 405 for 5 now i got 315 for 8. But slow on tempo of 3-1-3-0
i wasnt able to deadlift for basically a year. I guess it comes down to being patient to get back to where i was.
Btcowboy
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Assuming you are conventional not sumo, I tend to be parallel to the floor taking my grip, then I sit back and drop my hips putting my shoulders over top of my hips, pull the slack out of the bar and initiate with legs. I am now playing with sumo which is completely different and still working on getting form right
Ridethelightningbarefoot
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If your shoulders are too low it becomes a hip hinge and your not using all the muscle you could be. Butt hieght depends on your leverage but it seems torso to legs are always pretty close to a 45 degree angle, flat back. I would lower your weight and find your groove. For me it was weaks points. I ran a hypertrophy block and that fixed it for the most part. Lower back has always been a problem for me
Dam his back really was not straight.
thanks for video. Ill upload a video of my own, when i deadlift next. In 2 days
Test_Subject
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It’s hard to critique deadlift form from a forum post because deadlift setup is so dependent on your body proportions. If you have gorilla arms, you’ll be able to stay a lot more upright than if you have a long torso and short arms.
That said, if your shoulders aren’t above your hips, your leverages are going to be fucked and you’re setting yourself up to go cat-back mode and hurt yourself.
phibrowa
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Imagine you make friends with a colony of ants. These ants are brilliant astrologers, but have yet to discover combustible fuel. Being the scientists that they are, they develop a rocket knowing that you can throw them into outer space. All these ants dream about is going into space, where they can torment other extra terrestrial species in there pursuit of breadcrumbs. So they build this rocket, its maybe a foot tall, and they load up. Now you need to propel this rocket straight into the air, you cant bend over and throw it while bending or you will throw the poor ants backwards behind your head and maybe break your grandmas window, showering ants all over her living room resulting in a fatal heart event. You also cant lean in towards them or they will go up, then back down somewhere in front of you. In order to throw these little motherfuckers into space, you need to get close to the rocket, squat down good and deep(not too deep though), grab the rocket REALLY tight focusing on making sure those ants go STRAIGHT up, pull your head back, chest out to ensure that your focused on your legs. Then propel those mother fuckers as hard and fast as you can through your legs in an aggressive squat, and and at the same time thrust your hips forward for maximum velocity.
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So got my form back well. It was just from being detrained. Now my shoulders are greatly above my hips, did a hood ampunt of weight, with 3-1-3 tempo. 325 lbs for 10
i did have to switch to a alternate grip at 300. But it made the lift so much easier.
i did have to switch to a alternate grip at 300. But it made the lift so much easier.
Trying to post a video on my deadlift to get some critiques. I am 6 foot 1 235 lbs. just need to figure out how. Will do so after my workout.
Well its really clear my hips move first. Which is like the worst way to do a dealdift. Which is good to video stuff, i need to work on it.
Have to think or horizontal movement patterns, not as vertical to bring the hinge movement, because thats what a deadlift is, a hinge.
wsmwannabe
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For me personally, one of the best things I did to help drive my hips forward (and prevent them from shooting up) was to perform front banded deadlifts. This forces you to pull back and up
Good stuff, i feel i need to work on my glute and hamstring mind and muscle connection, because i am EXTREMELY quad dominant.
will look into these for sure.
wsmwannabe
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A setup similar to this should be sufficient. I think sticking to about 40-50% of your 1RM is a good starting place for weight with the front bands. Too little weight and the bar really pulls forward on you, too much weight and it becomes a very quad dominant exercise and will likely pull you hard onto your toes
Thanks.
