Bicep work

I've always had pretty lanky looking arms. But honestly the times they've grown the best were when I just simply trained them hard and often. I'll usually train them half-ass at least once a week during my regular powerlifting training. But when I've actually tried to out size on them I hit them 2x/week with two exercises and about 6-8 sets per workout with at least two of those sets going beyond regular concentric failure in one way or another. Then I'll usually throw in a third pump day in the middle. So something like M/W/F

That's actually just what I just started doing again and will hopefully keep them above 17" this time when I cut back down after my bulk. Fingers crossed.
 
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Quite a bit. As far I can tell it’s a family name at this point passed down from generation to generation.
Im am asshole? Dick? Okay. I’m honest. There’s no new method or magic trick that is more effective than getting as strong as possible at the movement. Sorry I thought you were talking about it being effective and were looking for something to create growth in the shortest amount of time possible, not “hey this is neat and fun”. Peoples true goals and motivation in the gym are reflected in their physique.


Brother I'm a long fucking way from reaching any of my goals. I'm still getting my diet dialed in and just getting back into the gym after a very long hiatus. I'm old and way past my prime. There is nothing that's going to give me short gain success. That ship has sailed long ago.
 
Brother I'm a long fucking way from reaching any of my goals. I'm still getting my diet dialed in and just getting back into the gym after a very long hiatus. I'm old and way past my prime. There is nothing that's going to give me short gain success. That ship has sailed long ago.
Nothing is fast and you’re never too old get great results. Your ship is never sailed. I think employing weird techniques that create more inroads to recovery is a mistake especially for an older guy. I’m an older guy with a fuck ton of injuries.
 
Nothing is fast and you’re never too old get great results. Your ship is never sailed. I think employing weird techniques that create more inroads to recovery is a mistake especially for an older guy. I’m an older guy with a fuck ton of injuries.
It's hard to beat some heavy ez curls followed by dumbbell work.
 
I'm by far not a competitive bodybuilder but I talk to someone often that is on a pro card. He pretty much told me the same thing about complete soreness. He simply stated you're overdoing it and will not stimulate the growth process any faster. His 2 cents, not mine
 
I'm by far not a competitive bodybuilder but I talk to someone often that is on a pro card. He pretty much told me the same thing about complete soreness. He simply stated you're overdoing it and will not stimulate the growth process any faster. His 2 cents, not mine
I get sore as fuck I really do, but it’s not my intention. I actually do shit to prevent soreness. My legs will hurt yo sit down for a couple days after I train them. But the soreness isn’t indicative of growth. It’s why I fixate so much on peri workout nutrition. I keep my cals and protein and supplement intake the highest around workouts
 
Weighted chin-ups did a lot for my biceps. Nothing overloads a muscle like moving a fuck-ton of weight comparative to the size of the muscle.

Hammering out a few sets of chins to failure strapped up with 90 lbs is going to do more for your biceps than some fancy gimmick curl ever will.

Edit: gimmick curls have their place, but as far as bang-for-your-buck goes, chins and heavy barbell curls can’t be beat IMO.
 
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I get sore as fuck I really do, but it’s not my intention. I actually do shit to prevent soreness. My legs will hurt yo sit down for a couple days after I train them. But the soreness isn’t indicative of growth. It’s why I fixate so much on peri workout nutrition. I keep my cals and protein and supplement intake the highest around workouts
That's last part I have learned is very important. I used to get 50g protein 6x day. Now I consume noodles and 50g protein pre workout meal and 80-100g post workout. Growth has improved and absolutely no increased BF. The body seems to be able to absorb almost endless amounts. I'm sure you all already know this, lol I'm still just a work in progress.
 
Here's a pic of my arms...they still need some work tho.
When is the last time they had actual tissue lean growth? My point was you and others are talking about works for your arms when you and some others honestly don’t know what works for your arms or any body part.
 
I been helping a buddy that was a 140lb heroin addict. He got clean started a test cycle and said he was eating at a 300 cal surplus. I said "NO", told him to eat at 1500 cal surplus. He put 40lbs on in 12 weeks and has a six pack more impressive than I will ever have.
Everything about bodybuilding is so individualized it seems.
 
The fact is everyone is different and not one thing will work for everyone. What work for you may not work for someone else.
With that said, all tips can be taken into consideration.

Regarding weight:
"Resistance exercise load does not determine training-mediated hypertrophic gains in young men."
Resistance exercise load does not determine training-mediated hypertrophic gains in young men/
"heavier loading [usually expressed as percentage of a person's maximal strength or single repetition maximum (1RM)] is often recommended as the optimal way to maximize muscle hypertrophy with resistance training (1). However, there is very little empirical evidence to support this supposition and it is unclear as to the physiological mechanisms by which heavier training loads would provide a signal for greater muscle hypertrophy compared with, for example, a lighter load lifted to the point of fatigue; both conditions would result in a large amount of muscle fibers being recruited. As proof-of-principle, we recently tested this idea and demonstrated (9) that a single bout of resistance exercise performed at 30% of 1RM to the point of momentary muscle fatigue (failure) was equally as effective in stimulating myofibrillar protein synthesis rates (MPS) as loads lifted at 90% of 1RM (also lifted to fatigue)."

However, many times real life and studies don't match 100%. You have a very broad range of Trained vs Untrained. Other variables.

Using heavy to light weight works, so why not use a mixture. Then add in all of the various intensification methods you can use, and the possibilities are endless.

The real question is: What works for you?

So fire away with what worked for you. Just be aware some may be parroting what someone else said, not what actually gave them results.

What worked for me?
Rest Pause with Lighter and Heavier Loads
A weight that can be lifted between 15 and 20 times. One set actually contains 2 sets/blocks. 1st block(pre-exhaust block) is between 15 and 20 reps, then rest 20 seconds(10 breaths) 2nd block lifted 1 or 2 reps shy of failure(2RIR of RPE8). Rest 1.5 to 2 minutes. Repeat 5 times.

At least one exercise with heavier loading. Weight that can be lifted 8-12 reps. Do same pre-exhaust scheme.

Every now and then at the end, throw in heavy weight that can be lifted between 5-8 reps.
Do 5-8 reps, rest 5 breaths (10 seconds) do 2-3 reps, rest 10 breaths (20 seconds) do reps.
Rest 2 minutes, do that again. Done

This pre-exhaust/rest pause/cluster type stuff, is the only thing that worked for me.

I started only doing 2 movements. Extra volume movement through week was reverse ez bar curls.

My arms were stubborn. Took consistency and 2 years to get what I feel were respectable looking arms. However to the average human, they were awesome at 1 year of this type of training.

I had an issue with not being able to feel like my left bicep was getting a good contraction, so I would get my Triceps pumped up a little before Biceps and that worked wonders.

Then you have Tempo, which will determine load as well for a given rep range. A change in tempo will change load needed.
 
Well mine are 20 and bench 400 but still not experienced enough to give much advice but if you are lean I would say eat, eat, eat. You might need that 2g/lb of protein and carbs to get where you want. Just a suggestion
There is a big difference between 20 when lean and 20 when not lean.

Not trying to be rude, but try hitting 8-10% body fat in 2022 and then come tell us your arm measurement.
 
Very happy with my arm growth and I know the bicep isn't a huge muscle like pecs, lats, and quads. The bicep gets worked during back and curls. Here's the question, a curl is a curl is a curl for the most part, looking for info to liven up the bicep workout where it doesn't feel so monotonous all the time
So I like to superset different types of curls, and do sets of 30 (10 each variation). Really gets an awesome pump and super fun! Spider curls are great, and if you're looking for machines you can do cable curls in a lot of ways. One great way is to cable curl in the front double bicep position. Also I think Preachers of any type are absolute GOAT for biceps, so I always throw a preacher variation in there. What keeps arm day interesting for me is doing lots of supersets & drop sets to get a really solid pump (which I find easier to get in my arms than other parts of the body). Also, I tend to rest less with the small muscles like bis & tris, drop the weight, and go for the really high rep work. Hope that helps break up the monotony of biceps!
 
Arm size is mainly genetics. I don't think exercises and variety mean as much as guys think. You are either pushing yourself and recovering or you aren't
 
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