When should I increase Testosterone dose

I'm a whore drunk, I'm a whore sober.
Yet because we're dude's we just have "strong libedo's" or whatever...a woman who also has a strong libedo is called slut or whore??? Shits f'd perspectively speaking!
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HIPPO-CRITICAL!!:rolleyes:
fair point, i probably am still scarred from highschool..i fucked a girl then drove an hour to drop her off at her "aunts apartment".. a couple days later i hear about how she got fucked by like 5 dudes in a row after i dropped her off that night LOL
 
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Seriously, is that last statement a cry for attention, anger or help. I don't like you and think ur a young punk but you should care of you live. Talk to someone if you feel you may harm yourself or others. I'll answer a PM if you need help.
 
This dude seriously used BigNattyDaddy or NattyBigDaddy or BigDaddyNatty or wtf his name to explain why AAS at age of 17 is smart ?

Dear lord, please help this child.
 
He's kinda right though, you can't get girls now unless you look like a fitness model because there are just already too many guys doing this shit. High stakes game, and you're in or you're out, and if you don't make it to the top 1% it never began really. I guarantee he's not trolling.

Anyway, OP this is not a good forum for this kind of discussion, the guys here are very knowledgeable about steroid use for bodybuilding but trying to use them for facial masculinisation and bone growth in your teens is a very new concept (born of the desperation and misery of the age of Tinder) and there are no studies, no previous experiences: you are the pioneers / guinea pigs.

I'm too old (28) to really care because my growth plates are closed but you can bet if I knew at 17 what I know now I'd have been all over this shit.
 
I have been blasting since mid November 2021 (400mg a week)

Is it time that I increase the Testosterone dose to 500mg or should I wait a couple months longer

also Admin @Millard I am 18 years old now and turned 18 early January 2022 so no ban this time please

Also how tall are you and are you taking AI? High estrogen will stunt your growth. Then the only person you'll be fucking is yourself if you end up sub-6ft.
 
He's kinda right though, you can't get girls now unless you look like a fitness model because there are just already too many guys doing this shit. High stakes game, and you're in or you're out, and if you don't make it to the top 1% it never began really. I guarantee he's not trolling.

Anyway, OP this is not a good forum for this kind of discussion, the guys here are very knowledgeable about steroid use for bodybuilding but trying to use them for facial masculinisation and bone growth in your teens is a very new concept (born of the desperation and misery of the age of Tinder) and there are no studies, no previous experiences: you are the pioneers / guinea pigs.

I'm too old (28) to really care because my growth plates are closed but you can bet if I knew at 17 what I know now I'd have been all over this shit.
yeah I am not using for muscle I am using for inducing bone growth and facial masculinization. and I am 6ft1-6ft2 barefoot

I think it is going to work take a look at this for example

Testosterone affects sexually dimorphic facial morphology [20] [21]. In pubertal males, high T levels facilitate the lateral growth of the cheekbones, mandibles, and chin, the forward growth of the bones of the eyebrow ridges and the lengthening of the lower face leading to a more robust face shape

Face can only be influenced during puberty by Test because that is when the main facial masculinization is being done. I believe bone growth ends at 22-23 with most being done by 20.

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Left = Average to High Levels of Androgens during puberty
Right = Low levels of androgens during puberty

look at the eye area, rounding jaw, brow ridge area causing rounding eyebrow etc. u can only influence this during puberty

Now Look at frame for example and the importance
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Right = Very Levels of Testosterone during puberty
Left = Low levels of testosterone during puberty

u notice the left guy has decent amounts of muscle but a terrible frame makes him look narrow. He can never fix that because it is only influenced during puberty. having low androgens during puberty = over. right guy has massive rib cage, shoulders and natural frame. even comparing faces u can see the difference
 
I agree if I had ur genetics Duke Nukem but i dont

never forget I have the worst genetics on earth but I will still win in the end

guys with my genetics jump off bridges but instead i am doing anything it takes to win

i aint retarded i am just trying to get the best looking girls and live the best life i can

u will understand me when i post before and after pics when i get decent physique then u will agree with me.

i am not saying what i am doing is smart because its not at all and i would never do it if i had good genetics like u but i have no choice. either i take a risk or its over and i get a fat wife and annoying kids like every other guy that is miserable with their life
Do you know what fucking a lot of girls increases your chances of getting?

A fat wife and annoying kids.


Have you even had sex before ? It genuinely sounds like you haven’t.
 
yeah I am not using for muscle I am using for inducing bone growth and facial masculinization. and I am 6ft1-6ft2 barefoot

I think it is going to work take a look at this for example

Testosterone affects sexually dimorphic facial morphology [20] [21]. In pubertal males, high T levels facilitate the lateral growth of the cheekbones, mandibles, and chin, the forward growth of the bones of the eyebrow ridges and the lengthening of the lower face leading to a more robust face shape

Face can only be influenced during puberty by Test because that is when the main facial masculinization is being done. I believe bone growth ends at 22-23 with most being done by 20.

View attachment 159049
Left = Average to High Levels of Androgens during puberty
Right = Low levels of androgens during puberty

look at the eye area, rounding jaw, brow ridge area causing rounding eyebrow etc. u can only influence this during puberty

Now Look at frame for example and the importance
View attachment 159048
Right = Very Levels of Testosterone during puberty
Left = Low levels of testosterone during puberty

u notice the left guy has decent amounts of muscle but a terrible frame makes him look narrow. He can never fix that because it is only influenced during puberty. having low androgens during puberty = over. right guy has massive rib cage, shoulders and natural frame. even comparing faces u can see the difference
Then do it! Stop being a bitch. Pussy. Start pinning 500 mg test. Get moving. Your wasting time.
 
Then do it! Stop being a bitch. Pussy. Start pinning 500 mg test. Get moving. Your wasting time.
500mg is over kill.

i am lowering dose to 250mg and i am going to do it for way longer maybe for an entire year.

250mg is more than enough to induce frame growth and face changes plus u need to cruise for long periods to see drastic changes it doesnt change overnight or even in 18 weeks

and im already pinning u mad u never though about this when u were young?
 
He's kinda right though, you can't get girls now unless you look like a fitness model because there are just already too many guys doing this shit. High stakes game, and you're in or you're out, and if you don't make it to the top 1% it never began really. I guarantee he's not trolling.

Anyway, OP this is not a good forum for this kind of discussion, the guys here are very knowledgeable about steroid use for bodybuilding but trying to use them for facial masculinisation and bone growth in your teens is a very new concept (born of the desperation and misery of the age of Tinder) and there are no studies, no previous experiences: you are the pioneers / guinea pigs.

I'm too old (28) to really care because my growth plates are closed but you can bet if I knew at 17 what I know now I'd have been all over this shit.
I agree but I disagree because all the girls I see are with skinny tall dudes. Girls definitely notice muscle, the girls who live next to me call me “big —-“ they came up and said hi blah blah, I went to the gym once here and and heard someone in a group of girls say ooo that boy is ripped. But does it just automatically make them fuck u ? No and u don’t have to be muscular. It just helps u get noticed. Really the best thing is charisma and a pretty face.
 
Do you know what fucking a lot of girls increases your chances of getting?

A fat wife and annoying kids.


Have you even had sex before ? It genuinely sounds like you haven’t.
So based on this have you lowered ur desire to sleep with lots of women I definitely don’t want kids like ever

I kinda fuckin hate them after this recent relationship experience.

Now that I’ve witnessed the diapers the middle night crying the whining the first the needing food having to do literally everything for them

I’m sorry but fuck no. Besides it’s a fucked up world so I can use that to justify my not bringing a person into this world
 
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yeah I am not using for muscle I am using for inducing bone growth and facial masculinization. and I am 6ft1-6ft2 barefoot

I think it is going to work take a look at this for example

Testosterone affects sexually dimorphic facial morphology [20] [21]. In pubertal males, high T levels facilitate the lateral growth of the cheekbones, mandibles, and chin, the forward growth of the bones of the eyebrow ridges and the lengthening of the lower face leading to a more robust face shape

Face can only be influenced during puberty by Test because that is when the main facial masculinization is being done. I believe bone growth ends at 22-23 with most being done by 20.

View attachment 159049
Left = Average to High Levels of Androgens during puberty
Right = Low levels of androgens during puberty

look at the eye area, rounding jaw, brow ridge area causing rounding eyebrow etc. u can only influence this during puberty

Now Look at frame for example and the importance
View attachment 159048
Right = Very Levels of Testosterone during puberty
Left = Low levels of testosterone during puberty

u notice the left guy has decent amounts of muscle but a terrible frame makes him look narrow. He can never fix that because it is only influenced during puberty. having low androgens during puberty = over. right guy has massive rib cage, shoulders and natural frame. even comparing faces u can see the difference
Do u think the difference in either of these pictures makes a significant difference or something? The only thing that will make u look better is more muscle and being leaner in regards to bodybuilding. I’m gonna stop giving advice this is tiring
 
So based on this have you lowered ur desire to sleep with lots of women I definitely don’t want kids like ever
I mean I like having sex 12 times a week but it doesn’t have to be a lot of chicks. I’ve banged maybe 12 chicks in the last 4 months. Which is a lot relatively speaking.

I’m over it. I’d rather have someone I get along with and can hangout with while having nasty sex. Out of the 12 there was 1 I’d actually enjoy a conversation with or want to be around which I’ve been banging for a month or two and it’s way better.

I do miss my 3 am porkers though….
 
I mean I like having sex 12 times a week but it doesn’t have to be a lot of chicks. I’ve banged maybe 12 chicks in the last 4 months. Which is a lot relatively speaking.

I’m over it. I’d rather have someone I get along with and can hangout with while having nasty sex. Out of the 12 there was 1 I’d actually enjoy a conversation with or want to be around which I’ve been banging for a month or two and it’s way better.

I do miss my 3 am porkers though….
Sex takes a ton of time and energy for me it’s
almost not worth it
 
I agree but I disagree because all the girls I see are with skinny tall dudes. Girls definitely notice muscle, the girls who live next to me call me “big —-“ they came up and said hi blah blah, I went to the gym once here and and heard someone in a group of girls say ooo that boy is ripped. But does it just automatically make them fuck u ? No and u don’t have to be muscular. It just helps u get noticed. Really the best thing is charisma and a pretty face.

The best thing is muscles and charisma and a pretty face. As a tall skinny guy I don't doubt that you get the impression that's who most girls are with - I'm always seen as "boyfriend material" - but the guys who actually slay in hookups which you DON'T see are definitely very muscular and hyper masculine.

With the state of women now they are not worth relationships in 99.9% of cases so it's a very strong goal of mine to put myself into that second category.
 
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