Getting to the next level

[Juicedhead]

no you dont lol. you need GH and insulin if you want real size not test. what is this kindergarten?

Yea dude with a bunch of test bro… how big are u? Or should I say how small?

 

[Sampei]

I don't understand ppl try a dangerous and very expensive combo like HGH insulin before trying high test lol. Makes no sense.

Test is cheap, test is strong, test is fucking awesome.

 

[Juicedhead]

i dont recommend it but you can make gains in a deficit on that much gear and if you can't, you're buying straight trash. OP is 6 foot 215... that's not that big he doesn't need a gram of test.

U can’t grow in a deficit I’m so tired of hearing people say this. It’s impossible

 

[Juicedhead]

I don't understand ppl try a dangerous and very expensive combo like HGH insulin before trying high test lol. Makes no sense.

Test is cheap, test is strong, test is fucking awesome.

Test is king in my eyes. There’s not feeling like 1.2 grams of test and the strength and size are better then anything else IMO. I was stuck around 230 for a while and I decided to push my test up to 1.2 grams and I got up to 250 on that amount. After that I truly believe you hit a point where u need to go high in test to see big big size/. I know guys who cruise on 750 test and they’re big guys. It’s these men’s physique guys who don’t use high test cuz they’re going for a certain look and classic guys too.

 

[steckdose0]

this is the post of a new age tick tocker and Brandon Hardingler gym shark wearing dangling cross ear ring having can’t stop staring at themselves fingers through the hair running, new age fuck boy.

hahahaha! but brandon harding looks pretty good. i don't like the guy but he's fucking huge so he's doing something right. at least i'm not the one on here posting about tiktokers

i still think it's an unhealthy and outdated approach to using gear. hopefully someday i'll be as tough a you and have the ballz to take 2 grams of test EOD

 

[steckdose0]

U can’t grow in a deficit I’m so tired of hearing people say this. It’s impossible

then you have some shit genetics. i've grown in a deficit on 350 test 400 tren

 

[Juicedhead]

then you have some shit genetics. i've grown in a deficit on 350 test 400 tren

Lol that’s impossible! To gain muscle you need excess calories man come on. I’ve never tried it cuz I eat like a man not a gym shark girly boy

 

[steckdose0]

Yea dude with a bunch of test bro… how big are u? Or should I say how small?

let me know what your blood markers look like after a couple months of your retarded protocol. i bet you're the kind of guy who thinks a 2000 calorie surplus is necessary to gain muscle because you really just wanna stuff your fatass

 

[Juicedhead]

let me know what your blood markers look like after a couple months of your retarded protocol. i bet you're the kind of guy who thinks a 2000 calorie surplus is necessary to gain muscle because you really just wanna stuff your fatass

My blood markers are good I’m a lucky person when it comes to gear I can run grams without much changing on my blood work. I eat 500 over maintenance to grow. I also have people help me retard so before u say anything else everything I do is advised by someone who is very knowledgeable. Edit I just noticed ur older then me… what’s ur weight ? Edit: and we’ve all ate 2000 cal surplus to stuff our faces hahah

 

[steckdose0]

My blood markers are good I’m a lucky person when it comes to gear I can run grams without much changing on my blood work. I eat 500 over maintenance to grow. I also have people help me retard so before u say anything else everything I do is advised by someone who is very knowledgeable. Edit I just noticed ur older then me… what’s ur weight ? Edit: and we’ve all ate 2000 cal surplus to stuff our faces hahah

i'm around 205-210 15% @ 5'10 but i've been out of the gym for quite a while now. just getting back into the swing of things after a long leave.

that's cool that you have buddies who help you -- i did a lot of that too in the past and i've found what works for me. personally i start feeling like shit on higher doses and i realized i don't even need to go that high in order to grow. i'm actually surprised that you only eat 500 over maintenance to gain because that's what i do and apparently i'm a no good gym shark wearing tiktok watching dangly cross earring having fuckboy lol

 

[Juicedhead]

i'm around 205-210 15% @ 5'10 but i've been out of the gym for quite a while now. just getting back into the swing of things after a long leave.

that's cool that you have buddies who help you -- i did a lot of that too in the past and i've found what works for me. personally i start feeling like shit on higher doses and i realized i don't even need to go that high in order to grow. i'm actually surprised that you only eat 500 over maintenance to gain because that's what i do and apparently i'm a no good gym shark wearing tiktok watching dangly cross earring having fuckboy lol

It depends I mean if I’m being honest I got way over some days maybe like 1500 cals but that’s not what I’d recommend to do. Dude im just giving u shit about the gym shark thing. If u don’t feel good in it then don’t do it. And there’s nothing wrong with being a fuckboy shit I was a fuckboy most my 20s and loved it.
Sorry OP for the hijack.

 

[NBE]

i'm around 205-210 15% @ 5'10 but i've been out of the gym for quite a while now. just getting back into the swing of things after a long leave.

that's cool that you have buddies who help you -- i did a lot of that too in the past and i've found what works for me. personally i start feeling like shit on higher doses and i realized i don't even need to go that high in order to grow. i'm actually surprised that you only eat 500 over maintenance to gain because that's what i do and apparently i'm a no good gym shark wearing tiktok watching dangly cross earring having fuckboy lol

I crack myself up

I’m definitely not denying it’s unhealthy asf, and the way your speaking of it’s definitely healthier. I forget not everyone is trying to be a mass monster when I read on here lol

just aware of the sacrifices and that it’s individual, I fukin wish I could look the way I do on a 2g gear and peptides on just 250 test and some primo it just isn’t happening :/

Sorry for assuming your fuckboyness. I recently switched to a commercial gym and it’s wrecked with that type and I always hear and imagine them speaking the way you did in that initial post I commented on. Srry srry

But I still say up the juices

 

[Habib]

Up the Test dosage to 1,2+ G
Sides are minimal if non existent (at least for me) and the results are fantastic.

I'm doing 1,2g test and 600deca and it's fucking great. I just feel good and I'm really seeing nice gain. All the markers are great too.

Before going the HGH insulin route (I don't suggest you do), just up the test dosage.

HGH at 2-3IU taken 5 days a week is meh... Especially the 5 days a week. If you don't have the money to waste don't use HGH simple as that

Food and more gear is your problem. Or maybe you topped up your genetic potential.

If your boneframe is super small you must look huge at 215lbs 6'
Enjoy it and don't stress over it.

he wont regret the anti-aging effect in 20 years though

 

[Habib]

Exactly. All these new young fucking bitch ass gym shark boys who don’t know test is king get out of here with your girly ass cycles.

@Connor 25257 says test is the worst muscle builder and is useless and only good for making sure you have estrogen in your system while on cycle. wonder if he cares for a debate? Ill grab the popcorn

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Next level?!
Ramp up to
2g testo
500 deca
500 tren
100-200 drol
10iu gh Ed or eod

 

[jJjburton]

@Connor 25257 says test is the worst muscle builder and is useless and only good for making sure you have estrogen in your system while on cycle. wonder if he cares for a debate? Ill grab the popcorn

Dont listen to that gut, he is wrong.

 

[Connor 25257]

@Connor 25257 says test is the worst muscle builder and is useless and only good for making sure you have estrogen in your system while on cycle. wonder if he cares for a debate? Ill grab the popcorn

After watching a ton of Victor Black and John Jewett videos over the last few weeks, I have to say my stance on testosterone was incorrect. It should always be a base in any cycle. Stick to safe doses, and safe compounds such as Mast, Primo, test, maybe GH, clen and that’s really all you need. I’m only on 350 test, 300 mast and 40 mcg of Clen and I’ve been making really great progress. I also take Telmesartian, Metformin and ezentime as there isn’t really a risk in taking these. Tons of benefits. Even if you don’t bodybuild you can still benefit from these drugs. I’m loving getting down to a lower body fat. The best part is instead of abusing drugs, I’m using them safely and getting good results. I highly suggest checking out Victor and John. Thanks to them, I’ve learned smarter practices, as well as staying off forums where guys spit 90-95% horse shit and just give flat out bad advice. Im still around sometimes tho

 

[Habib]

After watching a ton of Victor Black and John Jewett videos over the last few weeks, I have to say my stance on testosterone was incorrect. It should always be a base in any cycle. Stick to safe doses, and safe compounds such as Mast, Primo, test, maybe GH, clen and that’s really all you need. I’m only on 350 test, 300 mast and 40 mcg of Clen and I’ve been making really great progress. I also take Telmesartian, Metformin and ezentime as there isn’t really a risk in taking these. Tons of benefits. Even if you don’t bodybuild you can still benefit from these drugs. I’m loving getting down to a lower body fat. The best part is instead of abusing drugs, I’m using them safely and getting good results. I highly suggest checking out Victor and John. Thanks to them, I’ve learned smarter practices, as well as staying off forums where guys spit 90-95% horse shit and just give flat out bad advice. Im still around sometimes tho

Well your physique is insane so I'm gonna listen to you lol. Honest mistake!

 

[Isrrike]

For bulking GH either 4-6 iu ed or 10-15 iu m w f
Humalog pre / post
Test; 1000-1500mg
Primo 600-800mg
Npp 350-700mg
Mast e 200mg
T4 50-100mcg

Can swap npp for 1200mg eq If it doesn’t make you crazy and donate blood
A nice mass cycle that won’t make you feel like complete shit

 

[Habib]

For bulking GH either 4-6 iu ed or 10-15 iu m w f
Humalog pre / post
Test; 1000-1500mg
Primo 600-800mg
Npp 350-700mg
T4 50-100mcg

A nice mass cycle that won’t make you feel like complete shit

I think Tren or DHB instead of primo would be a better cycle. Maybe with some Dbol.

Why do you reccomend T4?