Getting to the next level

[Isrrike]

I think Tren or DHB instead of primo would be a better cycle. Maybe with some Dbol.

Why do you reccomend T4?

I only didn’t say tren or dhb because when I use those my appetite tanks and if I can’t eat I can’t grow. T4 is a must with 4+iu gh or you’re losing out on a lot of effects of hgh. People that say the fat loss and skin thinning on gh is over exaggerated are people who haven’t run a good growth with a good dose of T4

 

[Isrrike]

I think Tren or DHB instead of primo would be a better cycle. Maybe with some Dbol.

Why do you reccomend T4?

Here’s a good read. I’ve also gotten the same answers from some big names and big names coaches when speaking to them as well they advise t4 usage with gh. Take it with a grain of salt tho because they’re on everything under the sun

Thyroid Hormone + Growth Hormone - If You Aren’t Using T4 with Your GH, You’re Not Doing It Right

Quite some time ago, I wrote a book on Anabolics, and since then, I’ve received quite a bit of feedback on it. Some of the information contained in the

thinksteroids.com

 

[hometeam]

Ok so a bit about me: 32 years old, 6', 215, Mid 400s bench, mid 700s deadlift (haven't tested maxes for safety reasons, but those should be accurate). Been training for 15+ years, 11 natty, the last 4 with gear. I've exclusively stuck to AAS the last 4 years, no GH, no slin, no stimulants. The problem I've run into is that I'm having trouble making gains at this point. My last cycle was Test/Tren/Anadrol, and while I did make some gains and hit PRs, the gains were small and It was absolutely miserable being on those harsh compounds, especially tren. I ended the blast 5 weeks in due to sides. So basically I'm thinking of trying out a bit of GH, with more mild compounds for a long, slow, steady gain phase that will hopefully push my physique to the next level. Also, at this point size is a bigger concern than strength, as much as I like being strong, I just don't think an 800+ pull will improve my quality of life at all.

So basically I've come up with the following to try and push things to the next level, and hopefully not hate my life while blasting. I should mention Test + Adrol are the 2 compounds to which I respond best. I've ran Deca once - zero sides, but minimal gains - It might have been fake, I have a new source now. Tren hates me, other than for very small doses for short periods. I've never run EQ. I'm looking for some input from others that have been at the same place, and have experience with GH.

Test 750mg Week 1-20
Deca - 600mg Week 1-20
EQ - 600mg Week 1-20
GH 2-3 IU/day, 5 days/week Week 1-20
AI/caber/blood donation and all that fun shit

To push things as gains start to slow (this has worked well for me in the past)
Anadrol 50mg/day Week 14-20 - Maybe Dbol instead - EQ+ adrol seems like an HCT disaster
Tren A 150mg/week, Week 18-20

Alternately - No EQ so that I can run more Adrol without HCT issues (I've run like this in the past with 0 liver issues)

Test - 750mg Week 1-20
Deca 600 mg week 1-20
GH 2-3 IU/day, 5 days/week Week 1-20

Anadrol 50mg Weeks 13-16
Anadrol 100mg Weeks 17-20
Tren 150mg Weeks 19-20

TLDR: Me lift long time, me gains slow, me want more, me try GH, what you think?

I'm exactly the same height and weight as you right now, probably bf% too, so I can relate. Your cycles are fine but you're gonna have to eat more. Get some mass gainer shakes if you need to. And then, once you're putting as much food as humanly possible you'll need insulin to get to the next level, and then why not GH? But you probably already know this.

But you're also going to have to figure out what your end goal is. Do you want to be Ronnie Coleman? I'm kind of happy where I am now, ya know any more gains wouldn't be cosmetically pleasing. Some people already look at me like I'm a freak. I'm very commonly asked what I do to get so muscular. Even many, maybe most of the pros especially in classic, don't weigh as much as us. But most of them are shorter too. And maybe you don't do it for others, but will getting any bigger make you happy? It certainly won't be good for your health.

You have to figure out what point you will be happy at and how far you want to push things.