Injectable estradiol (e2) source

[Brave00]

I realize asking for sources is frowned upon but I need what seems to be a pretty rare item and I literally can not find it- Estradiol Cypionate or any other injectable ester. I am on MENT-only replacement therapy (which is great) but at an actual replacement dose so I need to supplement e2. I have been using Estrogel, daily, from India and its costing me ~$30/mo. Pills increase risk of blood clotting so i'm trying to go straight to cheaper, more convenient injections but cant seem to find any except from shady looking transgender websites that I don't really trust.

Anyone got any thoughts (aside from homebrewing which I am trying to not have to do for just e2)? Even a cheap estradiol gel source would be great.

 

[WannaBeBIG]

I have no idea where to look but I'd be curious to hear more about your experience with MENT as hormone replacement therapy. Doctor prescribed? Country of origin? Improvements to symptoms?

Whenever I've read about MENT being estrogenic I thought this would take care of E2, no?

 

[Brave00]

I have no idea where to look but I'd be curious to hear more about your experience with MENT as hormone replacement therapy. Doctor prescribed? Country of origin? Improvements to symptoms?

Whenever I've read about MENT being estrogenic I thought this would take care of E2, no?

Self-prescribed, USA. I have MPB so with MENT not reducing via 5ar in the scalp, its basically test without a concentration of DHT on my hairline. It's less damaging to my hairline than an 800ng/dl test level was with finasteride. Its great. I have been using 1-2mg/day primo as it does make me feel better than just with MENT. Feel good. Bloods good. Hair good.

The HRT studies on MENT show that with 400-700mcg/day there is insufficient methyl e-2 (or 7-methyl e2 i forget which one). Go above 5mg/day and it might be enough but under that most will need exo e2, from the few reports of MENT-only hrt ive seen anyway.

 

[99powerstroke]

I realize asking for sources is frowned upon but I need what seems to be a pretty rare item and I literally can not find it- Estradiol Cypionate or any other injectable ester. I am on MENT-only replacement therapy (which is great) but at an actual replacement dose so I need to supplement e2. I have been using Estrogel, daily, from India and its costing me ~$30/mo. Pills increase risk of blood clotting so i'm trying to go straight to cheaper, more convenient injections but cant seem to find any except from shady looking transgender websites that I don't really trust.

Anyone got any thoughts (aside from homebrewing which I am trying to not have to do for just e2)? Even a cheap estradiol gel source would be great.

Estradiol Cypionate is not rare lmfao. Literally every raw supplier on planet earth carries it, You can buy it practically anywhere on the internet. You are just too fucking lazy to spend 15 minutes looking

 

[Brave00]

Estradiol Cypionate is not rare lmfao. Literally every raw supplier on planet earth carries it, You can buy it practically anywhere on the internet. You are just too fucking lazy to spend 15 minutes looking

I have a solid raws supplier but I explicitly stated that I did not want to homebrew. I could also experiment with making a topical but i'd rather not.

 

[1229838]

You can get it from india. It’s called Progynon Depot. Just google it

 

[99powerstroke]

I have a solid raws supplier but I explicitly stated that I did not want to homebrew. I could also experiment with making a topical but i'd rather not.

Here you go, took a whole 4 minute to find.

https://www.dragonordnance.com/goods?code=09116213236

 

[Alphalfa]

Here you go, took a whole 4 minute to find.

https://www.dragonordnance.com/goods?code=09116213236

Did you even spend a minute reading the title and the original post?

I N J E C T A B L E

 

[Brave00]

You can get it from india. It’s called Progynon Depot. Just google it

This helps a lot. Thanks bro

 

[Canine]

Why are you doing MENT only? Extremely curious.

 

[Brave00]

Why are you doing MENT only? Extremely curious.

Answered that up above, see here:

Injectable estradiol (e2) source

I realize asking for sources is frowned upon but I need what seems to be a pretty rare item and I literally can not find it- Estradiol Cypionate or any other injectable ester. I am on MENT-only replacement therapy (which is great) but at an actual replacement dose so I need to supplement e2. I...

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[Canine]

Answered that up above, see here:

Injectable estradiol (e2) source

I realize asking for sources is frowned upon but I need what seems to be a pretty rare item and I literally can not find it- Estradiol Cypionate or any other injectable ester. I am on MENT-only replacement therapy (which is great) but at an actual replacement dose so I need to supplement e2. I...

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I missed it my bad, but brother, you do know that just because something does not go through 5-ar, doesn't mean it wont cause hairloss. Doing MENT only for hairloss is just as stupid as a [insert any other androgenic compound here] only cycle, granted not as detrimental on the hair as others but still, you're adding primo on top too. Androgen's bind to the ANDROGEN receptor in the hair follicles, 5-ar just takes one androgen, and turns it into another androgen to put it simply.

MPMD even did a whole documentation of nandrolone only as well as MENT, where he did bloodwork and everything. Came to the conclusion, that its a dumb idea.

Why do you think its rare to see someone completely getting rid of testosterone in their body? Probably because it's a dumb fucking idea.

 

[Brave00]

I missed it my bad, but brother, you do know that just because something does not go through 5-ar, doesn't mean it wont cause hairloss. Doing MENT only for hairloss is just as stupid as a [insert any other androgenic compound here] only cycle, granted not as detrimental on the hair as others but still, you're adding primo on top too. Androgen's bind to the ANDROGEN receptor in the hair follicles, 5-ar just takes one androgen, and turns it into another androgen to put it simply.

MPMD even did a whole documentation of nandrolone only as well as MENT, where he did bloodwork and everything. Came to the conclusion, that its a dumb idea.

Why do you think its rare to see someone completely getting rid of testosterone in their body? Probably because it's a dumb fucking idea.

You think using drugs to build muscle or attempt to correct other psychological issues are more noble of uses than for hair loss? How about stimulants to study for 8 years of med school or birth control for every 15 year old in the West? How about just alcohol to get fucked up like most people?

My HRT is really quite benign, all things considered. MPMD bloods on deca-only were near perfect as well. I appreciate your concern bro, but its a little misguided.

I am aware that androgens cause hair loss but I have found that MENT+ primo at replacement levels are way easier on my hair than TRT was even with finasteride. I'd argue that finasteride was much, much more detrimental to me and most men than switching from TRT to MENT+Primo is. Obviously there are no direct comparisons but finasteride is objectively unhealthy; see the following:

The Dark Side of 5α-Reductase Inhibitors' Therapy: Sexual Dysfunction, High Gleason Grade Prostate Cancer and Depression - PMC

With aging, abnormal benign growth of the prostate results in benign prostate hyperplasia (BPH) with concomitant lower urinary tract symptoms (LUTS). Because the prostate is an androgen target tissue, and transforms testosterone into ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Canine]

I appreciate your concern bro, but its a little misguided.

Misguided? Give me a study that advocates for complete removal of testosterone as a safe and healthy method of hair-loss prevention, let alone MENT. We at least have some data on 5-ar reducers, but MENT? we barely know shit. There's a reason TRT has stayed TRT, because nothing is better at doing testosterones original job, than testosterone itself. Not to mention, MENT will not convert downstream to the same stuff testosterone does, even with adding in estrogen, you are potentially seriously messing something else up downstream, and you don't even know about it.

 

[Brave00]

Misguided? Give me a study that advocates for complete removal of testosterone as a safe and healthy method of hair-loss prevention, let alone MENT. We at least have some data on 5-ar reducers, but MENT? we barely know shit. There's a reason TRT has stayed TRT, because nothing is better at doing testosterones original job, than testosterone itself. Not to mention, MENT will not convert downstream to the same stuff testosterone does, even with adding in estrogen, you are potentially seriously messing something else up downstream, and you don't even know about it.

TRT is almost certainly more healthy than MENTRT but its a choice I am okay with. Its also my choice to fast regularly, meditate, eat organ meats, avoid seed oils, sugar, wheat, and alcohol. I also do cardio. Big picture is that im pretty healthy, and if you dont do all that other shit i do for health, I dont really care about your myopic views on health.

 

[HydrillaGorilla]

TRT is almost certainly more healthy than MENTRT but its a choice I am okay with. Its also my choice to fast regularly, meditate, eat organ meats, avoid seed oils, sugar, wheat, and alcohol. I also do cardio. Big picture is that im pretty healthy, and if you dont do all that other shit i do for health, I dont really care about your myopic views on health.

Did you ever find injectable Estradiol? I too am looking for ready made multi-use vials for my wife's HRT. Doctors are an absolute pain in the ass and the indian stuff linked above are 10mg amps which are useless for HRT.

 

[Brave00]

Did you ever find injectable Estradiol? I too am looking for ready made multi-use vials for my wife's HRT. Doctors are an absolute pain in the ass and the indian stuff linked above are 10mg amps which are useless for HRT.

Googling “Progynon” I found a bunch of Indian pharmacies that had it but nothing special. I will end up just picking one that has stock when I run out of e2 pills.

What’s wrong with a 10mg amp? Can’t you just transfer it into a vial?

 

[Type-IIx]

A man should never take exogenous estrogens unless he is committed to transitioning to female or is intent, for some reason, on destroying sexual function. MENT already aromatizes to a potent 17α-methylestradiol. I understand wanting a T replacement for your hair loss, but this is misguided in many ways. I don't think you're dumb, but perhaps you've been poking around a particular subreddit a bit too frequently.

 

[Brave00]

A man should never take exogenous estrogens unless he is committed to transitioning to female or is intent, for some reason, on destroying sexual function. MENT already aromatizes to a potent 17α-methylestradiol. I understand wanting a T replacement for your hair loss, but this is misguided in many ways. I don't think you're dumb, but perhaps you've been poking around a particular subreddit a bit too frequently.

MENT was developed as a testosterone replacement, so what’s misguided is claiming it can not be used as such.

According to the studies, and my own experience it doesn’t provide sufficient methyl e2, so some supplementary e2 is necessary, at least for the majority of users, and at least at the dose I am taking.

Nandrolone-only hrt is available in the US, has been written about in journals as an alternative to TRT, and is currently used by some men, seemingly without issue. MENT is just another option.

 

[Type-IIx]

MENT was developed as a testosterone replacement, so what’s misguided is claiming it can not be used as such.

According to the studies, and my own experience it doesn’t provide sufficient methyl e2, so some supplementary e2 is necessary, at least for the majority of users, and at least at the dose I am taking.

Nandrolone-only hrt is available in the US, has been written about in journals as an alternative to TRT, and is currently used by some men, seemingly without issue. MENT is just another option.

MENT was not "developed" as a T replacement, it was investigated for this use and never approved.

The studies show that MENT produces a highly potent aromatic product, despite your interpretation. I am rather familiar with the matter, see: MENT Profile

Nandrolone, unlike MENT, has actually been approved for this use (it's used successfully by women as well).

The important point is this: while aromatizing androgen can be used to modulate T/E2 ratio with all the benefits of in situ aromatization, there is no justification for consuming exogenous estrogens in your case. Go ahead, though, you seem very experienced.