Steroids that have a positive effect on mental health!?

[TheBulkerOnTheRoof]

OK thought I'd add another update for anyone interested.

Since adding the masteron and dropping my deca down to 300mg a week I feel absolutely amazing, I feel stronger, have more drive and look a lot better due less bloat.

I front loaded the first week @400mg/wk mast then dropped to 200mg/wk so I'm currently running as follows:

test@350/wk
deca@300/wk
mast@200/wk

What's crazy Is I feel more aggressive now but in the right way, its like I'm balanced out now, its really hard to explain.

I feel like the deca numbed me too much in an emotional way and I had no love for anyone good or bad, i was so easily agitated towards the people I love ie friends and family, I was directing my anger and aggression towards the people that matter the most to me.

Now I feel quite the opposite, its like i feel an overwhelming love for the important people around me, and all my anger and aggression is directed towards the gym or anyone who wishes to bring harm to me or my loved ones, my drive in the gym has increased dramatically I feel like a raging bull when I have to be but a calm loving family member the rest of the time.

It almost feels like something was missing when I was on the higher dose of deca, I've never ran a DHT+19nor before and I must say I'm extremely impressed with mental and physical results so far.

I haven't noticed much in terms of mast lowering my e2 but i still have 3 weeks to go for full saturation, il have bloods taken then, currently im still running aromasin @12.5mg eod.

 

[ludi_janez]

this thread is a bunch of pussies

 

[ludi_janez]

Tren is a beast, if you think mental sides are bad with test and deca you've seen nothing yet

That's so fucking untrue. I love it when i run Tren, zero sides whatso-ever. Just feel amazing and look amazing all the time. I run it at 300mg with 300mg test and 300mg primo.

 

[Maximus014]

That's so fucking untrue. I love it when i run Tren, zero sides whatso-ever. Just feel amazing and look amazing all the time. I run it at 300mg with 300mg test and 300mg primo.

It may be untrue for you but not for.many others, I can't handle the mental sides from tren, or the way it makes me feel like shit 24/7, constant heartburn etc...for what a really fucked up bloodwork profile, while it does incredible things, the compound is just too harsh on the body

Everyone reacts differently to compounds, so good for you that it's one that you dont get many visible sides from

 

[Rido]

What's crazy Is I feel more aggressive now but in the right way, its like I'm balanced out now, its really hard to explain.

I feel like the deca numbed me too much in an emotional way and I had no love for anyone good or bad, i was so easily agitated towards the people I love ie friends and family, I was directing my anger and aggression towards the people that matter the most to me.

Now I feel quite the opposite, its like i feel an overwhelming love for the important people around me, and all my anger and aggression is directed towards the gym or anyone who wishes to bring harm to me or my loved ones, my drive in the gym has increased dramatically I feel like a raging bull when I have to be but a calm loving family member the rest of the time.

It almost feels like something was missing when I was on the higher dose of deca, I've never ran a DHT+19nor before and I must say I'm extremely impressed with mental and physical results so far.

I haven't noticed much in terms of mast lowering my e2 but i still have 3 weeks to go for full saturation, il have bloods taken then, currently im still running aromasin @12.5mg eod.

I feel the same way as you but I'm running npp. I take aromasin every 3 days


Things make me happier, I feel happier than normal. And vice versa..

 

[Palifter]

See this stuff is tricky because anecdotally and on forums, you’ll see the commonality of tren specifically messing with peoples mental state.

The flip side is, some people feel their best when they look their best and for a lot of people, tren brings out their best look.

I feel calm, cool and collected right now on test, tren and mast. Someone could be on the same exact cycle and want to rip their face off…good ol’ clusterfuck for ya.

In the end, you need to experiment and know what works for someone, might not be great for you.

 

[lukiss96]

this thread is a bunch of pussies

Here comes the bad man using Greg Doucette as his pic...

 

[Maximus014]

See this stuff is tricky because anecdotally and on forums, you’ll see the commonality of tren specifically messing with peoples mental state.

The flip side is, some people feel their best when they look their best and for a lot of people, tren brings out their best look.

I feel calm, cool and collected right now of test, tren and mast. Someone could be on the same exact cycle and want to rip their face off…good ol’ clusterfuck for ya.

In the end, you need to experiment and know what works for someone, might not be great for you.

See tren and me don't mix well, I think I did better on tren ace, but my wife would disagree lol, for me that stuff is liquid divorce

Masteron on the other hand I feel amazing, happy, calm etc...

One cycle I'd be curious to try would be test eq and mast, as I get low sides from.both of those compounds and overall feel good on them

I agree 100% in finding the compound ds that make you feel good and still make the gains you want

 

[Palifter]

See tren and me don't mix well, I think I did better on tren ace, but my wife would disagree lol, for me that stuff is liquid divorce

Masteron on the other hand I feel amazing, happy, calm etc...

One cycle I'd be curious to try would be test eq and mast, as I get low sides from.both of those compounds and overall feel good on them

I agree 100% in finding the compound ds that make you feel good and still make the gains you want

Big fan of test + EQ + mast. I’m on that until like 8 weeks out from shows then EQ gets replaced by tren ace.

Lean gains, little sides, vascular af, good head space, great endurance/strength in gym. Can’t go wrong.

 

[lukiss96]

Big fan of test + EQ + mast. I’m on that until like 8 weeks out from shows then EQ gets replaced by tren ace.

Lean gains, little sides, vascular af, good head space, great endurance/strength in gym. Can’t go wrong.

My unpopular opinion is that equipoise is the king of cosmetics, in your case using of course higher dosages it gives you insane vascularity and veins on top of veins.

When you do replace it with tren ace, perhaps eq is still giving it's effect looks wise, plus tren and masteron works synergistically amplify this effect.

 

[Albozz]

OK thought I'd add another update for anyone interested.

Since adding the masteron and dropping my deca down to 300mg a week I feel absolutely amazing, I feel stronger, have more drive and look a lot better due less bloat.

I front loaded the first week @400mg/wk mast then dropped to 200mg/wk so I'm currently running as follows:

test@350/wk
deca@300/wk
mast@200/wk

What's crazy Is I feel more aggressive now but in the right way, its like I'm balanced out now, its really hard to explain.

I feel like the deca numbed me too much in an emotional way and I had no love for anyone good or bad, i was so easily agitated towards the people I love ie friends and family, I was directing my anger and aggression towards the people that matter the most to me.

Now I feel quite the opposite, its like i feel an overwhelming love for the important people around me, and all my anger and aggression is directed towards the gym or anyone who wishes to bring harm to me or my loved ones, my drive in the gym has increased dramatically I feel like a raging bull when I have to be but a calm loving family member the rest of the time.

It almost feels like something was missing when I was on the higher dose of deca, I've never ran a DHT+19nor before and I must say I'm extremely impressed with mental and physical results so far.

I haven't noticed much in terms of mast lowering my e2 but i still have 3 weeks to go for full saturation, il have bloods taken then, currently im still running aromasin @12.5mg eod.

Glad that it worked out for you but dont forget that masteron is only masking the problem.Once you run out of mast or you catch a bunk batch you will have the same problems again.Gaba as daily supp before bed reduces unnecessary aggression dramatically and improved sleep quality for me,maybe have that as a backup plan.Masteron doesn't lower E2 directly,its a bro myth from the 90s/2000s that keeps getting repeated alot.People back then thought its lowering E2 because their High E2 symptoms went away when they added mast but in reality it just masked high e2 symptoms. And its always funny to see how People react differently to compounds,what you described with deca and mast is the complete opposite for me.Deca makes me more empathic and a better performer in bed while Masteron makes me a giant asshole lol .

 

[Palifter]

My unpopular opinion is that equipoise is the king of cosmetics, in your case using of course higher dosages it gives you insane vascularity and veins on top of veins.

When you do replace it with tren ace, perhaps eq is still giving it's effect looks wise, plus tren and masteron works synergistically amplify this effect.

Oh absolutely. You gotta think EQ having a longer half life, it’s still having some residual effect effect even after discontinuation.

I agree EQ is a very good aesthetic/cosmetic compound. Unfortunately most will only run EQ in the off-season so it’s hard to see what you’re working with under the “fluff”. I’ve used it sub 8% many times and it’s a winner in my book; bulking or cutting. I think EQ needs to be ran higher than other compounds and RBC needs to be monitored.

 

[lukiss96]

Oh absolutely. You gotta think EQ having a longer half life, it’s still having some residual effect effect even after discontinuation.

I agree EQ is a very good aesthetic/cosmetic compound. Unfortunately most will only run EQ in the off-season so it’s hard to see what you’re working with under the “fluff”. I’ve used it sub 8% many times and it’s a winner in my book; bulking or cutting. I think EQ needs to be ran higher than other compounds and RBC needs to be monitored.

Very good point. Also talking about regular gym rats like myself most are not lean enough >15% body fat and they expect equipoise to slam on weight like test or deca.

Someone my size, could perhaps get away with less? I never took more than 600mg and usually it's sub 400mg and right now I have added it to my protocol. With mini frontload, it gives me the effects in couple weeks max.

 

[Palifter]

Very good point. Also talking about regular gym rats like myself most are not lean enough >15% body fat and they expect equipoise to slam on weight like test or deca.

Someone my size, could perhaps get away with less? I never took more than 600mg and usually it's sub 400mg and right now I have added it to my protocol. With mini frontload, it gives me the effects in couple weeks max.

I’m never a huge fan of telling people online what dosages to run but I do feel EQ shines at 600mg and up. I’ve ran it at 800mg and 1200mg most recently. I liked 1200mg most. I donated blood every few months and had no RBC or high blood pressure issues.

 

[lukiss96]

I’m never a huge fan of telling people online what dosages to run but I do feel EQ shines at 600mg and up. I’ve ran it at 800mg and 1200mg most recently. I liked 1200mg most. I donated blood every few months and had no RBC or high blood pressure issues.

It's all good, I was just saying maybe us gym rats could get away with less. As most regular people, not competitors run grams of gear while many of them are ~200 pounds and not that lean. As a side note I don't get hematocrit, hemoglobin or rbc issues whatever I run, it's always in range.

 

[Maximus014]

I’m never a huge fan of telling people online what dosages to run but I do feel EQ shines at 600mg and up. I’ve ran it at 800mg and 1200mg most recently. I liked 1200mg most. I donated blood every few months and had no RBC or high blood pressure issues.

I've never been that lean before, but running it at 600 with deca and test was my absolute best strength stack, almost anything above max effort could be pushed to 30+ reps easily, at one point I was doing 110 dumbell oh press for like 25-30 reps, felt like I had zero lactic acid build up and could just hammer reps on everything, and vascular for a fat fuck, which is rare for me outside of the forearms, quads shoulders calves were all road maps (relative) at 20% bodyfat

This winter I'll be "bulking" using a cyclical keto approach, using carbs in the form a cluster dextrine just around my workouts, and plain keto on my off days with test deca eq, but once I do a full on cut again I think test eq mast will be what I go for

 

[Palifter]

I've never been that lean before, but running it at 600 with deca and test was my absolute best strength stack, almost anything above max effort could be pushed to 30+ reps easily, at one point I was doing 110 dumbell oh press for like 25-30 reps, felt like I had zero lactic acid build up and could just hammer reps on everything, and vascular for a fat fuck, which is rare for me outside of the forearms, quads shoulders calves were all road maps (relative) at 20% bodyfat

This winter I'll be "bulking" using a cyclical keto approach, using carbs in the form a cluster dextrine just around my workouts, and plain keto on my off days with test deca eq, but once I do a full on cut again I think test eq mast will be what I go for

Never done true cyclical keto, only high/low carb days depending on training or non training days.

Have you ever dabbled in HGH or slin? The two have allowed me to reduce my overall AAS use and achieve a look that AAS alone can’t touch.

 

[Maximus014]

Never done true cyclical keto, only high/low carb days depending on training or non training days.

Have you ever dabbled in HGH or slin? The two have allowed me to reduce my overall AAS use and achieve a look that AAS alone can’t touch.

I just started hgh at 3iu per day before fasted cardio (3 months)

And I have noticed same thing I'm running 200 test and 200 masteron right now with 20mg anadrol with true keto, and I'm actually making great progress (although I do carb up once per week)

This winter I've been contemplating some low dose pre workout insulin (humalog) on my training days and possibly upping the gh to 5 per day split am and pre slin (mutant slin protocol) but my aas doses will be higher than I'm running now just unsure on exact doses just yet

 

[Palifter]

I just started hgh at 3iu per day before fasted cardio (3 months)

And I have noticed same thing I'm running 200 test and 200 masteron right now with 20mg anadrol with true keto, and I'm actually making great progress (although I do carb up once per week)

This winter I've been contemplating some low dose pre workout insulin (humalog) on my training days and possibly upping the gh to 5 per day split am and pre slin (mutant slin protocol) but my aas doses will be higher than I'm running now just unsure on exact doses just yet

I like the sound of that plan!

 

[Live_Evil]

Some times life requires it. At work I'm better at not being a push over yes man and it makes my life better. I use my androgen anger for defense not to attack lol. It's just about knowing your worth and being willing to stand up for it.

Man, I have to be very careful about this. I manage a national level program, and I work with a ton of women. The only man I really work with is my CEO, and he isn't the type of guy you need to be pushy with at all. In fact, I'm known as the "warm and fuzzy" guy, and lead with a very gentle approach, which is why I was given the position I'm in. My CEO has been pretty close to a father figure for me, and he's probably the single biggest name in our industry.

I can't show frustration with anyone at any given moment, honestly, which basically limits my AAS usage to relatively low dosages, and only a few, select compounds. Even too much primo isn't an option, as it makes me quite aggressive.

I fucking love my job and work environment though. It's amazing being able to be such a positive influence and be rewarded for it.

OK thought I'd add another update for anyone interested.

Since adding the masteron and dropping my deca down to 300mg a week I feel absolutely amazing, I feel stronger, have more drive and look a lot better due less bloat.

I front loaded the first week @400mg/wk mast then dropped to 200mg/wk so I'm currently running as follows:

test@350/wk
deca@300/wk
mast@200/wk

What's crazy Is I feel more aggressive now but in the right way, its like I'm balanced out now, its really hard to explain.

I feel like the deca numbed me too much in an emotional way and I had no love for anyone good or bad, i was so easily agitated towards the people I love ie friends and family, I was directing my anger and aggression towards the people that matter the most to me.

Now I feel quite the opposite, its like i feel an overwhelming love for the important people around me, and all my anger and aggression is directed towards the gym or anyone who wishes to bring harm to me or my loved ones, my drive in the gym has increased dramatically I feel like a raging bull when I have to be but a calm loving family member the rest of the time.

It almost feels like something was missing when I was on the higher dose of deca, I've never ran a DHT+19nor before and I must say I'm extremely impressed with mental and physical results so far.

I haven't noticed much in terms of mast lowering my e2 but i still have 3 weeks to go for full saturation, il have bloods taken then, currently im still running aromasin @12.5mg eod.

Believe it or not, it's actually quite common for people to feel like shit, mentally, on a 19nor.

I'm glad you're doing better brother!