Steroids and work

[PikOsyris88]

So people who take Tren, does it affect your ability to be calm and focused at work? I work a very serious and stressful job, that requires me to make tough decisions and work with others under stress and I just wonder how being roided up would affect things. Never personally met a jacked person who worked a very serious job.

 

[PikOsyris88]

What kind of steroid creams?

Yeah I don't trust doctors at all. Especially after the BS my dad dealt with at a renowned heart hospital. Specialists all disagreeing with each other, ones from the same field doing the same, making bogus claims that studied and science clearly disagree with just because it's outside their field of study, yadda yadda. Put my old man through the ringer lol.

Well you can do it all through UGL, and it's cheaper that way. Monitoring your own labs is easy. Cycling is a commitment just like TRT, only difference is one you come off of, the other you don't. Same difference in my book as far as commitment.

Using test boosting herbs if they are at clinically proven dosages should have your levels higher than they are, or maybe they would be worse without it. Personally can't speak on that.

You can try taking clomid (clomiphene) daily to boost testosterone through negative feed back loops. That is proven to work, and is typically the first line to see if it can pick up your natural test levels. Take a natural estrogen modulator with it like DIM & Chrysin. Can get more into that if you'd like.

By the way, I was on corticosteroid creams. I know they affected my hormones, because when I got off I became very lethargic. Big reason I am so addicted to caffeine now.

 

[PikOsyris88]

Fuck bitches, trade crypto

I was a victim of BlockFi. Lol only lost like 2k though. More of a stock guy.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

If you're not an asshole under it all, tren isn't making you one. People make tren this excuse for being a fucking douchebag. Jsut..don't be one.

Worked in a fast paced, stressful, professional setting my entire life. Never been an issue.

 

[PikOsyris88]

If you're not an asshole under it all, tren isn't making you one. People make tren this excuse for being a fucking douchebag. Jsut..don't be one.

Worked in a fast paced, stressful, professional setting my entire life. Never been an issue.

Good to know. Would you say steroids help your cognitive ability? Also, if employers know you're on gear, do they typically care?

 

[SippinCoffee]

Private gym owners, social media, strippers... A guy at my work with huge lats just works a construction type job. I think he's on gear. That job is physically stressful, but not mentally.

I control a large water system, in California. We're running out of water here, have a faulty system and our company is very greedy when it comes to being cost effective. So I can't make a single mistake and I work a rotating shift. One week graveyard, one week day shift. Etc. No weekends off.

Zero weekends off? I hope they pay you well and you enjoy the hell out of your job.

 

[PikOsyris88]

Zero weekends off? I hope they pay you well and you enjoy the hell out of your job.

I love my job and I make 100k with lots of vacation and benefits. It feels like I'm playing a high stakes strategy game at work. But there's a ton of down time too where I just lift weights and chill. Coworkers are great.

I did construction landscaping and waste removal for years. Beats the hell out of that.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Good to know. Would you say steroids help your cognitive ability? Also, if employers know you're on gear, do they typically care?

Nobody has ever even asked or hinted, probably because I keep bodybuilding out of the office and don't act like an idiot. Testing for AAS is expensive.

I don't notice much of anything for AAS these days mentally because it's all kinda just part of the flow. Elevated test I think can for sure help some cognitive ability, but can also be bad for others. I think the best course is trying to maintain the idea that you're in control and the drugs are not. I don't like chalking up abilities to something that isn't "me"; they're there for building muscle and that's it, rest is on me.

 

[kosp]

I would look into possible neurotoxicity and cognitive damage for long term use of AAS.

 

[pornlando]

TRT thru a doctor is a great way to
get your feet wet and stay safe , as they will monitor your blood work , time out your blasts appropriately and you blood work is taken care of…

This requires a lifetime commitment, or at least TRT is not just prescribed for a few months and that’s it …although you could hop Off if you didn’t respond how you anticipated…

 

[PikOsyris88]

TRT thru a doctor is a great way to
get your feet wet and stay safe , as they will monitor your blood work , time out your blasts appropriately and you blood work is taken care of…

This requires a lifetime commitment, or at least TRT is not just prescribed for a few months and that’s it …although you could hop Off if you didn’t respond how you anticipated…

Would that mean I have to drive to their office multiple times a week to get my injections?

 

[tuffie]

I would look into possible neurotoxicity and cognitive damage for long term use of AAS.

Which is why your first cycle should not be "500mg blast it" although people do it and tend to not report perm side effects, some do. Neuro Toxicity and cognitive damage has so much to do with "over-dosing" or High-High doses. inb4 you cant overdose on test. Its not what i mean. Over saturating your organism with aas metabolites exogenously whether bio-identical or synthetic carries a high risk of not returning to base-line and hormones is something that will fuck you up perm. if you are that person who is sensitive to those side effects. //fear posting done.

Long term use of high doses i can agree.

Several threads created talking about how peds has changed an individual and its 50/50 imo.

For me? PEDS allow me to focus more on my life than the gym so im much more focused with work than "i cant skip gym today" because peds gives me that advantage.

So if you are fat.. genetically inferiour... then you have work to do which peds will help and you get to that point of , "i dont need to go to the gym today..."

If you are making money off PEDS.. then read between the lines. many resellers and shills..

 

[pornlando]

Would that mean I have to drive to their office multiple times a week to get my injections?

Not necessarily, I’m on prescribed TRT and I do my own injections…talk to your doctor and let them know your comfortable doing it yourself because you won’t be able to make it to his office every week…

for me my doctor got me to do my injection in front of him just so he could confirm I had proper technique / cleanliness and after that I was doing my own shots

 

[kosp]

Over saturating your organism with aas metabolites exogenously whether bio-identical or synthetic carries a high risk of not returning to base-line and hormones is something that will fuck you up perm. if you are that person who is sensitive to those side effects. //fear posting done.

Sure, but it rarely happens for a few normal 8 - 12 weeks cycles with no 19-nors or boldenone.

Ofc if you don't rest between cycles and you hop on on another cycle just after a few weeks, you are not really allowing recovery so it is not like one cycle will permanently shut you down, tell me one example of this happening that had a pre-cycle bloodwork, because maybe that people had low t beforehand.

 

[Resurgence]

I'm definitely into natural supplements. If you recommend some, id probably order on Amazon right now. Got a dozen I take daily. Looks like Chysin is an aromatase inhibiter. I've heard of athletes doing that. That's as far as I know about it. Is it safe? Please go more into it.

Chrysin and DIM work as estrogen modulator and anti estrogen to an extent, and can bump natural test production through negative feedback loops. Vitacost Synergy, Horbaach, MRM, all are good companies. Yes they are very safe, made from natural ingredients.

Clomiphene can be obtained through a doc, or board sponsors. Pct247 is the cheapest for india pharm grade if you're cool to wait a bit. 25-50mg a day, go from there. Will work to increase natural testosterone via HPTA negative feedback.

Funny thing is, if you look at PCT protocols, this is a light one from back in the day when Andro and 1-Test was still legal. Just the dosages would be higher, and you would have an AI like nolvadex or anastrazole to handle estrogen side effects if they came about.

 

[LowDoseNatty]

For me personally, tren doesn’t seem to make me angry, but instead it makes me a massive risk taker which I usually am not.

This could be beneficial or detrimental to work, if you’re the type that has to negotiate business deals, you’ll probably be more assertive and confident. However, this could backfire and lead to some dumb decisions.

 

[Resurgence]

Good to know. Would you say steroids help your cognitive ability? Also, if employers know you're on gear, do they typically care?

There are numerous studies proving low T has negative effects on cognitive ability, mood, etc. Proving the other way around (high T, bad cognitive function) has not been studied much, if at all, and the studies were conducted pretty poorly. But there has been some decently ran with TRT in older men (40-50+) improving brain function (to put it simply)

"Optimized" hormone levels are what anti-aging clinics/alternative clinics shoot for, to "optimize" your well being, memory, life, and length of life, yadda yadda. Signs of aging including decaying mental health are obviously correlated to sub-optimal/decreasing good hormone levels (test, GH, IGF, etc).

If you'd noticed though I centered the cognitive functions around testosterone, and HRT (HGH, etc) which is only naturally occurring hormones in your system you'd be replacing. Not Tren, deca, oral compounds, etc.

As far as employers go. I've never had anyone care that you're in shape, workout, big, etc.TRT is legal obviously. Just don't tout illegal or "steroid" use. Usually you can get an insurance discount for being healthy AAS tests albeit not terribly expensive, would be pointless for an employer as it doesn't alter/impair your judgement mentally to do your job.

 

[Juggy3838]

Did you think I meant to say that people who take steroids can’t work stressful jobs? Because I really just wanted to know how it might affect that situation. Just questions.

I watched a video of a guy that mentioned how anabolic steroids affected his marriage, seems perfectly reasonable to ask how it would affect someone’s job.

For the last 8 years, my job was to keep 4-5 people alive for 12 hours at a time. No lunch breaks, 10,000-14,000 steps a day, sometimes eating twice in that period, and one was usually 3 quest bars swallowed whole. 1/2 the shifts people
Died.

Can you be on anabolics and have a stressful job? Yea.

 

[pornlando]

I work at a homeless shelter where there’s a lot of drug use and fights and sometimes you have clients who view you as like a jail guard or something and antagonist attitudes
I’ve literally had issues like people trying to steal shelter property or threatening me whilst I’ve been on test /mast/tren cycles - I was able to keep my composure…

but like many others here have said roids just magnify what’s already there …

If you have a temper or whatever and you add roids to that there is defo potential for trouble …
If your mellow and laid back your gonna be ok …..

If your your an asshole your gonna be a super asshole on steroids

 

[PikOsyris88]

Which is why your first cycle should not be "500mg blast it" although people do it and tend to not report perm side effects, some do. Neuro Toxicity and cognitive damage has so much to do with "over-dosing" or High-High doses. inb4 you cant overdose on test. Its not what i mean. Over saturating your organism with aas metabolites exogenously whether bio-identical or synthetic carries a high risk of not returning to base-line and hormones is something that will fuck you up perm. if you are that person who is sensitive to those side effects. //fear posting done.

Long term use of high doses i can agree.

Several threads created talking about how peds has changed an individual and its 50/50 imo.

For me? PEDS allow me to focus more on my life than the gym so im much more focused with work than "i cant skip gym today" because peds gives me that advantage.

So if you are fat.. genetically inferiour... then you have work to do which peds will help and you get to that point of , "i dont need to go to the gym today..."

If you are making money off PEDS.. then read between the lines. many resellers and shills..

I'm either genetically inferior or just fucked up from all the corticosteroids and immunosuppressants doctors had me on. But I'm a skinny "hardgainer". Which, I know is sort of a myth because they say I just need to eat more.

Anyways. I wanna heal up my skin, my gut, maybe my teeth enamel, with some peptides... Then mess around with test when it feels right and go from there. Not too worried about my mood changing after seeing what everyone said. I'm really chill.

 

[PikOsyris88]

Not necessarily, I’m on prescribed TRT and I do my own injections…talk to your doctor and let them know your comfortable doing it yourself because you won’t be able to make it to his office every week…

for me my doctor got me to do my injection in front of him just so he could confirm I had proper technique / cleanliness and after that I was doing my own shots

My doctor is a clown. Won't prescribe me shit. I'll have to go to a clinic and just ask them questions. Hoping insurance can cover some part of it. Gonna start with peptides and herbs and go from there. I feel not ready to commit to TRT yet.