I urge all source stop selling designer Benzo Drugs !! (Canada)

[Theyedoctor]

I am not gonna come on here and put Innovagen or the sites that sell his products on blast. But the truth is that there is blood on the brand's hands.

This isn't what our industry is about. If you're going to sell approved Benzos It's one thing. But these guys are putting out designer benzos that have NOT been studied and approved for human use, made with Chinese API, from sketchy Chinese suppliers. Most reputable chinese sources won't supply these, so yes they are def dealing with sketchy suppliers.

So like I said I not gonna come on here and publicly list the name of those brands that sell Innovagen and these products but i strongly suggest anyone that deals with innovagen or those sites to ask them to STOP making these products.

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6869577

 

[3ml]

Well I guess 3 posts about this should be sufficient....wtf

 

[bornSkinny]

My understanding is sources that offer benzos aren’t allowed here.

So…. Am I missing something?

What do you want from Meso?

 

[marco11]

Not sure why Inno is making all this garbage.

 

[EmYYY]

wise suggestions coming from a clen dnp user
anyways im not sure how meso and benzos are related

 

[3ml]

Not sure why Inno is making all this garbage.

Alot of stupidity in this industry. Greed. Like fuck me, hard drugs, t-shirts, open websites, etransfers, accepting credit cards, charging sales tax? LoL using instagram to sell drugs. Several labs have seemingly forgotten that this is illegal.

 

[unclebob]

Well If Inno was looking to have a special RCMP task force aimed at busting them then mission accomplished boys

 

[Theyedoctor]

Well I guess 3 posts about this should be sufficient....wtf

So sorry I did not mean to. First time I made the post it said waiting for mod approval to go live. I had never experienced this on meso before, so I tried to delete and repost. Same thing happened. I guess I did it 2 or 3 times and then few hours later suddenly they all went live. My bad

 

[Rubicon500]

Well If Inno was looking to have a special RCMP task force aimed at busting them then mission accomplished boys

Yep public enemy #1 now , they’ll be under the same scope as fent dealers with that article quite a retarded bussiness move.

 

[OlDirTyy]

Yep public enemy #1 now , they’ll be under the same scope as fent dealers with that article quite a retarded bussiness move.

Which article ?

 

[graciebjj]

Which article ?

Probably the one referred to in the first post: https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6869577

It's disappointing of course to see in the news but really a miracle it's taken this long. Many reps in the Canadian scene (likely a global phenomenon) who deal with this lab and its adjacent businesses have a tendency to associate with plenty of other naughty items. Organized crime is a dirty game filled with dirty people who don't give two shits about the health/safety of kids.

 

[Inspired]

We don't need some white knight coming in here to tell everyone what to do. Let people buy what they want to buy. It's their body and their wallet.

The article you referenced appears to show an example of a teenager, prescribed drugs by a medical doctor, who then developed a drug addiction to opiates and whoever knows what else. Blame the parents. He is a drug addict. He is combining benzos and opiates, and flirting with death. Then he dies. Welcome to the statistics. Controlling drugs makes ZERO difference to people like this. These drug addict have to live and learn. Some die, some overcome. And the result is ultimately their decision.

It makes no difference where this kid gets his drug from. Drug addict will find drugs and kill themselves with them.

I've never seen benzos for sale or offered by any sources here anyway, so what's your point?

 

[marco11]

We don't need some white knight coming in here to tell everyone what to do. Let people buy what they want to buy. It's their body and their wallet.

The article you referenced appears to show an example of a teenager, prescribed drugs by a medical doctor, who then developed a drug addiction to opiates and whoever knows what else. Blame the parents. He is a drug addict. He is combining benzos and opiates, and flirting with death. Then he dies. Welcome to the statistics. Controlling drugs makes ZERO difference to people like this. These drug addict have to live and learn. Some die, some overcome. And the result is ultimately their decision.

It makes no difference where this kid gets his drug from. Drug addict will find drugs and kill themselves with them.

I've never seen benzos for sale or offered by any sources here anyway, so what's your point?

Purple Panda is selling some form of benzo or benzo analogs on their website unless I am mistaken.

Ive seen a bunch if designer drugs on the website...

 

[graciebjj]

We don't need some white knight coming in here to tell everyone what to do. Let people buy what they want to buy. It's their body and their wallet.

The article you referenced appears to show an example of a teenager, prescribed drugs by a medical doctor, who then developed a drug addiction to opiates and whoever knows what else. Blame the parents. He is a drug addict. He is combining benzos and opiates, and flirting with death. Then he dies. Welcome to the statistics. Controlling drugs makes ZERO difference to people like this. These drug addict have to live and learn. Some die, some overcome. And the result is ultimately their decision.

It makes no difference where this kid gets his drug from. Drug addict will find drugs and kill themselves with them.

I've never seen benzos for sale or offered by any sources here anyway, so what's your point?

You may be confused as to the point of why many users may be upset by this. You can put aside the morality of selling drugs that have acutely lethal potentiality, sure. Why shouldn't sources sell Fentanyl and so on as well, right?

Put that aside. Why it may be upsetting to many is because in this case it's a large and well-known Canadian UGL that is doing it. That is unique because in Canada we're used to not having LE give many shits about us AAS users. The law is super fucking relaxed for us, and I can order from any number of domestic sources and not have to worry much. Selling benzos through all these large UGL sites increases scrutiny of all UGLs and attracts attention from LE. You can see in this article the discussion of surveillance on domestic packages (currently NIL).

If all of a sudden cops start caring a bunch about UGLs and associate AAS dealers with benzos and other deadly recs, the whole scene stands to get worse for users. We're in somewhat of a golden age with regards accessibility to AAS and PEDs right now. More testing than ever before. Easier to pay. Faster delivery. It shouldn't be ruined because some greedy rats want to normalize selling untested benzo analogues.

 

[Theyedoctor]

You may be confused as to the point of why many users may be upset by this. You can put aside the morality of selling drugs that have acutely lethal potentiality, sure. Why shouldn't sources sell Fentanyl and so on as well, right?

Put that aside. Why it may be upsetting to many is because in this case it's a large and well-known Canadian UGL that is doing it. That is unique because in Canada we're used to not having LE give many shits about us AAS users. The law is super fucking relaxed for us, and I can order from any number of domestic sources and not have to worry much. Selling benzos through all these large UGL sites increases scrutiny of all UGLs and attracts attention from LE. You can see in this article the discussion of surveillance on domestic packages (currently NIL).

If all of a sudden cops start caring a bunch about UGLs and associate AAS dealers with benzos and other deadly recs, the whole scene stands to get worse for users. We're in somewhat of a golden age with regards accessibility to AAS and PEDs right now. More testing than ever before. Easier to pay. Faster delivery. It shouldn't be ruined because some greedy rats want to normalize selling untested benzo analogues.

Very well said. My intention was never to hurt any brand or site. All these guys work hard to supply us. But to me, selling designer drugs like this which are very obviously going to be purchased through addicts is very very reckless and stupid. Addicts are not the wisest of people out there and at the end of the day we dont even know proper dose guidelines for these drugs! At least with drugs approved for human use an addict has an idea of what the general range is so unless they're really really stupid they probably wont exceed that. But with these designer drugs who knows?? We don't need this shit in our industry and the labs / sites that make it need to be called out on it so they stop putting this shit out and ruining it for us all.

 

[Inspired]

You may be confused as to the point of why many users may be upset by this. You can put aside the morality of selling drugs that have acutely lethal potentiality, sure. Why shouldn't sources sell Fentanyl and so on as well, right?

Put that aside. Why it may be upsetting to many is because in this case it's a large and well-known Canadian UGL that is doing it. That is unique because in Canada we're used to not having LE give many shits about us AAS users. The law is super fucking relaxed for us, and I can order from any number of domestic sources and not have to worry much. Selling benzos through all these large UGL sites increases scrutiny of all UGLs and attracts attention from LE. You can see in this article the discussion of surveillance on domestic packages (currently NIL).

If all of a sudden cops start caring a bunch about UGLs and associate AAS dealers with benzos and other deadly recs, the whole scene stands to get worse for users. We're in somewhat of a golden age with regards accessibility to AAS and PEDs right now. More testing than ever before. Easier to pay. Faster delivery. It shouldn't be ruined because some greedy rats want to normalize selling untested benzo analogues.

True, but haven't there been endless research chemical sellers all over the internet for atleast the last decade, selling just about everything, including unscheduled benzos? What is new about this situation? I understand that more scrutiny is terrible but is the situation any different from what it ever was?

 

[pigeonhed]

The difference to me is our community does not have a reputation for killing kids.

The recreational drug market does.

Really do NOT WANT PEDs being considered a RECREATIONAL drug. That would change not only how WE ALL are viewed but would make busts start happening.

 

[marco11]

True, but haven't there been endless research chemical sellers all over the internet for atleast the last decade, selling just about everything, including unscheduled benzos? What is new about this situation? I understand that more scrutiny is terrible but is the situation any different from what it ever was?

Im pretty sure at one point in the not too distant past PPL and Inno among other labs sold nothing else but PEDs and other medications relating to anabolic usage.

This is a relatively new fad and if someone doesnt say something and bring light to this nonsense we are in for alot of trouble.

 

[graciebjj]

True, but haven't there been endless research chemical sellers all over the internet for atleast the last decade, selling just about everything, including unscheduled benzos? What is new about this situation? I understand that more scrutiny is terrible but is the situation any different from what it ever was?

I think the idea would be that AAS sources in Canada have typically at least made the appearance of staying in their little bubble. At least the ones with any half-decent reputation. It's a common trope up here that its guns and rec drugs that get guys in hot water, and every single time it causes an ugly ripple. Innovagen is actively pushing the boundaries of what our 'scene' is able to get away with and contributing to ruining lives in the process. Regardless of whether you care about the ruined lives, if their actions increase the attention that AAS/PED sources get in Canada, if they contribute towards increases surveillance of domestic (and international) packs, it's a bad thing.

Imagine a world in which the current or next federal administration decides we need a task force for cracking down on steroids and domestic drug trafficking. That's just plain bad for everyone.

 

[Big_paul]

Imagine a world in which the current or next federal administration decides we need a task force for cracking down on steroids and domestic drug trafficking. That's just plain bad for everyone.

What about the war that's on the horizon? That's going to put an end to all the drugs and steroids unless they start moving there gear though the folks in Sinaloa. I had it with aas from Mexico years ago. I'm not down with that again.