Cartels producing steroids.

[Nuvo6]

A long long time ago (like 2014) my buddy and I were smoking this dirt weed we bought. We bought it because we used to smoke that as teenagers and we thought we should try it again to see how laughably bad it was. He posted it on snapchat or some zoomer soak media app and some friend of his replied "thanks for supporting the cartel". I laughed. I said ask if they eat avocados (the cartel is heavily involved with the very profitable avocado trade in Mexico). They don't smuggle avocados they just threaten farm owners. They ship them legally.

Think about it like this. You're the cartel, you have a 4x4 space ro store contraband to smuggle into the USA. Are you going to fill that with kilos of testosterone that's maybe 230 dollars a kilo. Dirt weed that's 100 a kilo. Or fentanyl that is 80k a kilo?

The cartel is rich from Americans insatiable appetite of opioids

 

[RiceNKimchi]

I think many think of the cartel as a single entity when they are multiple. Smaller organizations trying to become bigger all the time.

 

[Type-IIx]

Sorry, I re-read my initial post and realized that it seemed that I was taking credit.

Actually, the guy's girlfriend was also friends with Dan Duchaine. I was just a guy with a promising website

His girlfriend sounds just unfathomably sexy, based on everything you've said about her, she's a knockout.

Carrot Top was seriously connected and put in the work with good advice.

 

[readalot]

Sorry, I re-read my initial post and realized that it seemed that I was taking credit.

Actually, the guy's girlfriend was also friends with Dan Duchaine. I was just a guy with a promising website

Glad she didn't go for the calf implants.

Assael: Steroid Nation (book excerpt) - ESPN Page 2

A founding father of the steroid movement, Dan Duchaine, is profiled in this excerpt from "Steroid Nation."

www.espn.com

Whether Dan Duchaine loved Mary Lou was irrelevant. On a visit to Scottsdale, Arizona, he walked into a jewelry store and walked out with a two-and-a-half carat diamond ring. At dinner that night, he slid it across the table and said, "I want to marry you. I want us to make a baby."

Even through her Nubain haze, Mary Lou had difficulty saying yes. She had lost everything -- her husband, her friends, her life back East. For a time, all she had left was her bodybuilding dream and Duchaine ruined that as well. She had been knocked from the 1997 Nationals in Dallas in the first round, and with the 1998 show a month away, she looked like hell.

Duchaine's solution: "You need calf implants."

So they set out for a clinic over the border in Mexico. Duchaine checked her in, got a hotel room, then came back just as she was being wheeled into surgery. "You'll be fine," he said.

The operation was declared a success, but it hadn't gone well. Mary Lou realized as much when she awoke in the middle of the night with her feet incredibly numb. It felt, she would later remember, like a terrible case of frostbite. She dragged herself to the nurse's station, but the nurse didn't speak English and ordered her back to bed. The blood vessels in Mary Lou's legs had not been properly re-attached. Her lower body was essentially cut off from her circulatory system. She was rushed into the operating room so the implants, now leaking silicone, could be removed. Seeing her leg sliced open on either side as though it had zippers made Mary Lou grow faint and she screamed, "I want to go to an American hospital!" An ambulance raced her back across the border. By the time they pulled up to the emergency room of Scripps Mercy Hospital in San Diego, Mary Lou's kidneys and liver were in a state of near-failure.

While Shelley Harvey was in England, recovering from the brain damage caused by the motorcycle accident, the woman Dan Duchaine had selected to replace her, a woman whom he had promised prize-winning legs, was about to have one of them sawed off.

 

[Type-IIx]

Glad she didn't go for the calf implants.

Assael: Steroid Nation (book excerpt) - ESPN Page 2

A founding father of the steroid movement, Dan Duchaine, is profiled in this excerpt from "Steroid Nation."

www.espn.com

GOOD GOD.

Duchaine knew some things about nutrition & drugs. Albeit, things like Nubain & whatever combination killed him, were indicative of some degree of insanity/stupidity.

But this is very not good.

Upon thinking about it a bit further, it was merely arguable negligence to do the operation in Mexico. It certainly wasn't his intent that he cause harm to someone he loved.

I don't know anything about these romances, relationships; just very surface level, from his books, from the Newsletters, etc.

 

[readalot]

GOOD GOD.

Duchaine knew some things about nutrition & drugs. Albeit, things like Nubain & whatever combination killed him, were indicative of some degree of insanity/stupidity.

But this is very not good.

Clen, dnp, t3, etc. He wasn't afraid of sending people out for some field research, including himself.

 

[Type-IIx]

Clen, dnp, t3, etc. He wasn't afraid of sending people out for some field research, including himself.

I recall his obsession with a 3-letter drug abbreviation that is associated with very unpleasant use cases, but that he taught people how to synthesize to promote restful sleep & GH production. He was a lunatic. But, 80% of his stuff was applicable, and the other 20% bound to lead to addiction and/or death, disability, etc.

 

[Dickwang]

Glad she didn't go for the calf implants.

I have my calf implants booked for February. Does anyone here have experience with how long recovery will be ?

Getting mine done in Miami.

 

[readalot]

I recall his obsession with a 3-letter drug abbreviation that is associated with very unpleasant use cases, but that he taught people how to synthesize to promote restful sleep & GH production. He was a lunatic. But, 80% of his stuff was applicable, and the other 20% bound to lead to addiction and/or death, disability, etc.

Very good chapter in this book...

Amazon.com

See chap 4.

Biden of course all over this as well with the RAVE act.

Retracted article on dopaminergic neurotoxicity of MDMA - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Never skimp on the analytical. To this day no one takes responsibility for the mix up.

 

[Type-IIx]

Very good chapter in this book...

Amazon.com

See chap 4.

Biden of course all over this as well with the RAVE act.

Retracted article on dopaminergic neurotoxicity of MDMA - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Never skimp on the analytical. To this day no one takes responsibility for the mix up.

Could you PM me the Chapter Title & a brief synopsis?

We're definitely derailing this thread.

 

[readalot]

Could you PM me the Chapter Title & a brief synopsis?

We're definitely derailing this thread.

Good point.

 

[Type-IIx]

I live near the boarder. It's a cartel if you think they don't get their hands in things in AREAS that are profitable, you're underestimating the operation. They're about profit, if an area has a demand, would you not supply? I promise you boarder towns have demand for Many things other areas do not. Make your assumptions from far away and what makes sense to you.

Boarder towns here have fake Pfizer cialis. In almost exact casing. I mean if you think there's no profit lol. Vice did some documentaries on it and while vice has gone downhill they are still relevant.

I believe it's just the areas in which you live in. If you're further away you're not exposed and conclude your own thoughts. I live through the US kidnappings across boarders, zeta massacres a few hundred miles away.... it hits different.

All of your points are well taken. Nevertheless, strictly to the thread's topic, (Mexican) cartels (producing, supplying) AAS: Mexico is no longer regarded as a source country for AAS internationally because its supply of AAS products for the veterinary & human market, that was once comprehensive & varied, has totally dried up.

Mexico is no longer a source of, e.g., stenbolone acetate (Anatrofin), veterinary nandrolone, boldenone, et cetera, that anyone relies on today. There are other countries in the hemisphere that are, like Argentina.

But China's production of raw hormone that can be used by laypersons to create an injectable solution of substantially greater quality (fewer contaminants, higher potency; more intended for human use than veterinary products), in part, coupled with the cartel's lack of acumen or motivation to supply this market with legitimate goods, has led to a dearth of interest in Mexican AAS.

And it's in no small part, because of the cartels' unreliability & greed in this market, even nowadays apparently supplying Mexican pharmacies with (oftentimes fentanyl-containing) counterfeit replacement goods that contains either nothing, or something else altogether. And this goes for all their prescription items basically, not just testosterone.

At this point I would surmise that they don't care much about this market, and with respect to their pharmacy operations, would rather simply rip off some American outright sold on the belief that he can just buy whatever he wants in a Mexican pharmacy for the right price, than put any work into AAS supply, now that their reputation as a source country for AAS has totally soured.

This sort of customer is not sticking around anyway, he just came across the border; so there's no incentive for continuing sales: might as well rip him off.

 

[buzzingonaas]

There's a well-documented history of "hustling" in competitive bodybuilding including several academic papers and books.

did someone say nick trigili?

 

[RiceNKimchi]

All of your points are well taken. Nevertheless, strictly to the thread's topic, (Mexican) cartels (producing, supplying) AAS: Mexico is no longer regarded as a source country for AAS internationally because its supply of AAS products for the veterinary & human market, that was once comprehensive & varied, has totally dried up.

Mexico is no longer a source of, e.g., stenbolone acetate (Anatrofin), veterinary nandrolone, boldenone, et cetera, that anyone relies on today. There are other countries in the hemisphere that are, like Argentina.

But China's production of raw hormone that can be used by laypersons to create an injectable solution of substantially greater quality (fewer contaminants, higher potency; more intended for human use than veterinary products), in part, coupled with the cartel's lack of acumen or motivation to supply this market with legitimate goods, has led to a dearth of interest in Mexican AAS.

And it's in no small part, because of the cartels' unreliability & greed in this market, even nowadays apparently supplying Mexican pharmacies with (oftentimes fentanyl-containing) counterfeit replacement goods that contains either nothing, or something else altogether. And this goes for all their prescription items basically, not just testosterone.

At this point I would surmise that they don't care much about this market, and with respect to their pharmacy operations, would rather simply rip off some American outright sold on the belief that he can just buy whatever he wants in a Mexican pharmacy for the right price, than put any work into AAS supply, now that their reputation as a source country for AAS has totally soured.

This sort of customer is not sticking around anyway, he just came across the border; so there's no incentive for continuing sales: might as well rip him off.

It's unfortunate. I use to get everything right there. Now with addicts getting controlled substances, everything has fentanal. Many prescriptions are re packaged almost to exact specs..I can't say it's the larger organizations doing this but it is prevalent. Ill link the video that came to an area down here years ago... nothing has changed.

 

[RiceNKimchi]

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EV6qS8xH24M&t=6s&pp=ygUZTWV4aWNvIHZpY2UgcHJlc2NyaXB0aW9uIA%3D%3D


Addresses smaller drugs and well knoen abused drugs... steroids are not addressed but are widely available on the boarder

Edit. 8:16 talks about the professional repackaging of pharmaceuticals

 

[Astartes]

When did Sam Sulek color his hair? lol

Awwww! Poor Sam… that is just wrong man

 

[Astartes]

While much of what you joke about is true, why do you shift subject matters and attempt to discredit me. Stay on topic, you are obviously an intelligent person.

The cartel is not committing violent acts against end users. The violence you point out in within themselves and against rival cartels.

If you wanted to purchase from them, you have little to no concern about being harmed.

Further, you need to buy in bulk. That's all that was stated.

Enjoy your masturbation session.

Speaking from first hand experience dealing what Mexican and Chechen cartels. Yes. They do. They operate through Gangs here as their proxy.

There is a reason non Latin gangs have been demolished in US since 2015. I have personally pulled bags of rendered flesh out of plastic shredders.

This is categorically false in today’s state with Zeta and CJNG. Also Gulf and Sinaloa who didn’t typically operate that way until about 10 years ago due to pressure from younger more “violent” cartels like CJNG.

 

[RiceNKimchi]

Speaking from first hand experience dealing what Mexican and Chechen cartels. Yes. They do. They operate through Gangs here as their proxy.

There is a reason non Latin gangs have been demolished in US since 2015. I have personally pulled bags of rendered flesh out of plastic shredders.

This is categorically false in today’s state with Zeta and CJNG. Also Gulf and Sinaloa who didn’t typically operate that way until about 10 years ago due to pressure from younger more “violent” cartels like CJNG.

I don't think these guys have ever seen funky town. It's fucking horrific and there's a newer one where they skin the guy then take out his beating heart and let it sit on camera for 2 minutes until it stops.

These people have no morals, no care in the world except money and power.

 

[Type-IIx]

Speaking from first hand experience dealing what Mexican and Chechen cartels. Yes. They do. They operate through Gangs here as their proxy.

There is a reason non Latin gangs have been demolished in US since 2015. I have personally pulled bags of rendered flesh out of plastic shredders.

This is categorically false in today’s state with Zeta and CJNG. Also Gulf and Sinaloa who didn’t typically operate that way until about 10 years ago due to pressure from younger more “violent” cartels like CJNG.

OK, I'm intrigued.

WTF are Chechen cartels doing in the US? And what distinguishes them?

 

[Type-IIx]

I don't think these guys have ever seen funky town. It's fucking horrific and there's a newer one where they skin the guy then take out his beating heart and let it sit on camera for 2 minutes until it stops.

These people have no morals, no care in the world except money and power.

I know that much from VICE. I don't think I want to see whatever it is you're talking about.

Nah, I definitely don't.