Considering joining the military.

[4Drago]

Not to mention low interest loans and mortgages.

I got both my associates and BA while on active duty and didn't have to pay a dime (Air Force). I gave my GI bill to my daughter to get Her BS.

I sometimes think, if I had it to do all over again, would I enter service still? I struggle but the answer is always yes. I had a family to take care of so sacrifices were needed.

 

[lukiss96]

Served in the military for 6 years. Good times.

Steroids and training you can definitely combine with that lifestyle. Every base has gyms and everything you need. How to carry your stuff is going to depend how strict rules are for personal items. When you rank up and get to know everyone they won't check you. Rec drugs and alcohol is what is forbidden obviously so they check for that. All else like medication is fine, just don't be an idiot telling everyone you're using steroids and show off your shit. Be smart about it.

When you first join you will go to the basic training course or whatever it is called in the US, but same thing, there you will be nobody and nothing and just about any higher ranking will have the power over you (which is even that dog who's been there for years will have more rights than you in this phase).

I advise you to finish your training as a soldier clean and don't bring steroids with you. Then as you sign a contract and become somebody you will gain a lot more freedom to move freely. Then you can plan out your use and all that stuff.

Only thing that sucks is that you have to deal with mediocre diet not always but it happens and trust me you can't do anything about it.

So yeah, it is doable, I have done it and it's more than possible to combine all of that.

P.S.
I know US army is different and all that, but let me tell you, the system is the same regardless where you are from. Same principles and routines apply for any country as long as it'a in the NATO. What is different is the size in the numbers and power and of course equipment.

 

[SpringHeelSkank]

I echo everything @4Drago has stated, you get caught it just isn’t worth it. I served several years myself, and yes, several do use.

However, while your senior leadership, both enlisted and commissioned may not look twice. There is always going to be that boot LT with an environmental degree that just hit the battalion that will. He is out to make a name for himself by any means necessary. Now senior leadership is forced to look and that my friend, never ends well on that side of the UCMJ.

 

[makeway]

That would be a sad day for my country for a bad ass e9 to get an other than honorable, for popping for test levels 3x the norm. One time.

It would… which is why i just recently got back into the game 20 inch’s arms aren’t with my retirement haha.

 

[makeway]

And yes, because I was growing so fast while everyone else was getting skinny I was tested in basic. My Training instructors were constantly looking me up and down and chatting between each other. When they finally just asked me straight up, I said no and actually volunteered to be tested. And back then it was expensive as shit. The test had to be sent off to some Olympic committee or some shit. MTI said it cost about $10k. But today I'm sure testing has become a lot more simplified and much easier and cheaper.

I was only 194lbs and flat as hell when I entered training and I had to get really cut just to get down that low. Id been off test for at least a year if i remember correctly.194lbs was the cutoff for my height.Talk about zero glycogen in my muscles. I lost a lot of muscle needless to say. It appeared to them like I was growing WAY to fast once I recovered and got some glycogen back into my body. Fucking muscle memory is so dam awesome!

When it was all done I had to get a waver stating I wasn't fat just high muscle volume.

I can’t believe they actually tested you off of that alone. Pretty shitty tbh.

 

[JC Grifter]

If you get popped for testosterone just tell them you identify as a woman who identifies as a man.

 

[lukiss96]

Have you guys actually been in the mil? I doubt they test for that. Rec drugs and alcohol mostly. I don't think it's too different in the US.

 

[lukiss96]

Served in the military for 6 years. Good times.

Steroids and training you can definitely combine with that lifestyle. Every base has gyms and everything you need. How to carry your stuff is going to depend how strict rules are for personal items. When you rank up and get to know everyone they won't check you. Rec drugs and alcohol is what is forbidden obviously so they check for that. All else like medication is fine, just don't be an idiot telling everyone you're using steroids and show off your shit. Be smart about it.

When you first join you will go to the basic training course or whatever it is called in the US, but same thing, there you will be nobody and nothing and just about any higher ranking will have the power over you (which is even that dog who's been there for years will have more rights than you in this phase).

I advise you to finish your training as a soldier clean and don't bring steroids with you. Then as you sign a contract and become somebody you will gain a lot more freedom to move freely. Then you can plan out your use and all that stuff.

Only thing that sucks is that you have to deal with mediocre diet not always but it happens and trust me you can't do anything about it.

So yeah, it is doable, I have done it and it's more than possible to combine all of that.

P.S.
I know US army is different and all that, but let me tell you, the system is the same regardless where you are from. Same principles and routines apply for any country as long as it'a in the NATO. What is different is the size in the numbers and power and of course equipment.

@makeway wow OP, fix your issues first. I bothered to reply and tell you from my experience and you downvote. You're going to have hard time in the mil with that attitude. They don't want soft types. Whatever, I should probably be wary from now on to reply to new members threads, I see.

 

[makeway]

@makeway wow OP, fix your issues first. I bothered to reply and tell you from my experience and you downvote. You're going to have hard time in the mil with that attitude. They don't want soft types. Whatever, I should probably be wary from now on to reply to new members threads, I see.

I did my 20 and retired. I couldn’t care less about your experience. You got the downvote because you came into a thread, failed to read any replies, and then ignorantly said “Have you guys actually been in the mil”? And the continued talk out of your ass saying “I doubt they test for that” after I clearly linked a document for the OP discussing the army’s drug testing program. And then stated “I doubt the US is any different” as if you have any basis or experience to discuss the US’s drug testing program given you are from Europe.

Read the damn thread. Yes, many of us have been in the military. No, the OP hasn’t. And yes, your post was idiotic.

 

[lukiss96]

I did my 20 and retired. I couldn’t care less about your experience. You got the downvote because you came into a thread, failed to read any replies, and then ignorantly said “Have you guys actually been in the mil”? And the continued talk out of your ass saying “I doubt they test for that” after I clearly linked a document for the OP discussing the army’s drug testing program. And then stated “I doubt the US is any different” as if you have any basis or experience to discuss the US’s drug testing program given you are from Europe.

Read the damn thread. Yes, many of us have been in the military. No, the OP hasn’t. And yes, your post was idiotic.

Perhaps that's why you are so bitter about everything. So far only thing idiotic is that I mistaken you for OP. But yeah your angry comment is a reflection of some issues, you should find someone else to take it out on.

The question is legit are people talking from experience or just read something. It is a big difference, so that's why I asked, so far seems only you got some ego issues and I hurted you by such question which is really normal question. Why can't I ask if someone served, how it offends someone is beyond me.

I refuse to further talk with you and you're on the ignore list, since you lack any ability to communicate like a normal person. I treat everyone the same, but you make shit personal on a steroid forum for no other reason, but over a damn question...

 

[Mongo966]

To be honest, the more I think about it, I wonder if roids would have really helped me during my training. They may have made the mental aspect of it much tougher than it needed to be. I don't have a lot of patience for bullshit to begin with and roids basically reduce my patience to nothing. The military is a bullshit factory, particularly during training, and I may not have been able to handle the pressure if my hormones were raging while I was being messed with constantly, lacking sleep, etc. There's a really high chance I would have punched someone out and/or quit. The physical aspect of basic training isn't strenuous enough to require PED's in my opinion. Special operations selection is a different story, obviously. In that case I'd say the risks/rewards look a bit different.

 

[Spideog]

Have you guys actually been in the mil? I doubt they test for that. Rec drugs and alcohol mostly. I don't think it's too different in the US.

Yeah but I assume it will a pain to be able to do the pinning. What are you going to do keep it in the barracks? What happens if you get deployed to Iraq or some place?

 

[madfkndogmax]

Apologies for asking so my questions but this one is a big one. Has anyone hear used steroids while being in the army? I assume it’s a massive no-no. I think it’s time to say goodbye to my steroid journey. It’s strongly on the agenda.

Tonnes of people use gear in the army. Tonnes!
I can’t imagine that it’s possible during basic training and perhaps employment training (depending upon the job), so presumably one would need to take some time off the gear.

 

[madfkndogmax]

Yeah but I assume it will a pain to be able to do the pinning. What are you going to do keep it in the barracks? What happens if you get deployed to Iraq or some place?

To be honest, the more I think about it, I wonder if roids would have really helped me during my training. They may have made the mental aspect of it much tougher than it needed to be. I don't have a lot of patience for bullshit to begin with and roids basically reduce my patience to nothing. The military is a bullshit factory, particularly during training, and I may not have been able to handle the pressure if my hormones were raging while I was being messed with constantly, lacking sleep, etc. There's a really high chance I would have punched someone out and/or quit. The physical aspect of basic training isn't strenuous enough to require PED's in my opinion. Special operations selection is a different story, obviously. In that case I'd say the risks/rewards look a bit different.

This!

I was infantry and cannot really see how gear would have helped me with my job. Army training might get tough, but it’s designed so that the average dude can get through, and being really strong isn’t all that big an advantage. It’s not like sport where a game goes for 60 minutes, etc. - the army is about being able to function for long periods without much sleep, food, etc. No one is lifting weights out bush - everyone loses weight in the field, so it’s not a great environment for managing cycles. Most of the grunts that hit the gear always seemed to be on medical restrictions - rarely leaving the barracks.
Of course, there are plenty of other jobs that don’t involve the hard/field work - plenty of time to hit the gym and 3 hot meals a day.

 

[Spideog]

I assumed this. Time to PCT I think.

 

[buzzingonaas]

Not a true big nono, forgot who but just saw a post the other day from an open pro (he just won his pro card a few months ago) talking about how he won his pro card while serving as a marine (one look at his face and it’s clear he’s no natural lol), that douchebag jordon oakley talks all the time about his time in the armed forces blasting gear and all his friends that were blasting gear. Said nobody was ever tested

 

[Mongo966]

Not a true big nono, forgot who but just saw a post the other day from an open pro (he just won his pro card a few months ago) talking about how he won his pro card while serving as a marine (one look at his face and it’s clear he’s no natural lol), that douchebag jordon oakley talks all the time about his time in the armed forces blasting gear and all his friends that were blasting gear. Said nobody was ever tested

Yeah there are tons of people juicing in military. That's not a surprise. Noone gets tested for it. Someone would have to be gunning for you pretty hard to make you do a steroid test without cause. You'd have to get ratted on(which is why I said to keep it a complete secret from everyone even your girlfriends).

 

[lukiss96]

Back when I served I met some US soldiers at the base in the gym in Germany (Hohenfels) who were taking "celltech". So there are definitely some users of aas. They were deployed there for like 6 months and somehow they were able to bring their shit together.

Inb4 I get attacked again cuz I'm not from US lol...

 

[Inspired]

Please do not listen to any comment in this thread from 4Drago. He has no idea what he's talking about and it sounds like he's just making it up.

The only thing you need to know is what was already said: tell no one and you will be fine.

 

[Spideog]

Not a true big nono, forgot who but just saw a post the other day from an open pro (he just won his pro card a few months ago) talking about how he won his pro card while serving as a marine (one look at his face and it’s clear he’s no natural lol), that douchebag jordon oakley talks all the time about his time in the armed forces blasting gear and all his friends that were blasting gear. Said nobody was ever tested

Either way you have to come off for 6 months anyways due to basic training. It’s not the US Army I’m joining it’s the defence forces.