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[readalot]

So you are doing 10mg test c daily injections ?

Yep.

 

[Dirthand]

A few pages back I would consider it borderline harassment. Not requesting, not demanding, but just member after member piling on while GA said he would get to it, but it will take a second.

This is illegal international drug trade.. while I can agree there should always be a level of being Civil ...
This board has 1 level of accountability. And it comes from us. If the community is not stressing Marcus the fuck out to keep him moving in the right direction we are not doing are job.. I like this source but he can he a little whinny and dodgy. This is out yard our rules not his..
Where i come from it's cowboy the fuck up and if it don't fit force and make it happen. You don't half ass shit and make excuses.. That is exacally what Marcus has done with the pictures and a couple of other things in the past.. Half assing it and making excuses is not excepted..
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[GenericAsia]

Why are you hugging the sources nuts??? Suspicious. He dis not present any evidence that those are not random pictures from the internet..

mate what are you talking about pictures from the internet? go and look for the pics if you find this pictures of this facility you get rewarded 1000$ !

im seeing your comments funny enough it’s only GA being attacked and questioned about sterilization, procedure, production, testing and the list keeps continuing. why your not on the other pages and asking the same questions as you do here? my products come clean and smoothly you don’t find any floaters or half filled vials.

i just told you that this is NOT an underground laboratory where we can put up names and take photos whenever I want.

it’s an big manufacturer factory who’s licensed, and doing business within the law, which means there is specific hours we can work in. these equipments is not used in an underground lab either you can see it’s top equipments.

i try my best to book an appointment by having more photos that can proof you it AGAIN.

But as said, there is security, safety and risk that need to be considered as well. you can not combine an underground lab with an highly professional manufacturer company that is licensed to produced.

 

[GenericAsia]

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if he worried that the lab could be associated to his name he can always put a different name on the paper or something that one could argue it create proof he was there in the lab or had someone took the picture in the lab but can't be linked directly to GA

plesse read my comments about this again. you can not compare an underground laboratory with a few machines with an big licensed manufacturer factory .

 

[readalot]

why your not on the other pages and asking the same questions as you do here?

I'm working on it. Takes time. This ain't my full time job.

Can't wait to hear more.

 

[readalot]

mate what are you talking about pictures from the internet? go and look for the pics if you find this pictures of this facility you get rewarded 1000$ !

im seeing your comments funny enough it’s only GA being attacked and questioned about sterilization, procedure, production, testing and the list keeps continuing. why your not on the other pages and asking the same questions as you do here? my products come clean and smoothly you don’t find any floaters or half filled vials.

i just told you that this is NOT an underground laboratory where we can put up names and take photos whenever I want.

it’s an big manufacturer factory who’s licensed, and doing business within the law, which means there is specific hours we can work in. these equipments is not used in an underground lab either you can see it’s top equipments.

i try my best to book an appointment by having more photos that can proof you it AGAIN.

But as said, there is security, safety and risk that need to be considered as well. you can not combine an underground lab with an highly professional manufacturer company that is licensed to produced.

Great. So there is an analytical chemistry lab. Let's see the answers to my questions.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

I think this is what triggered me Brother. All good LOL. I'll take some deep breaths. Should be ok.

I can respect this response...

You will have to forgive the manner in which i communicate, we all come from different walks.. My level of sophistication is probly on the lower side. I am a rought cut country boy.. All I really know how to be is myself..one thing about it is you get the same person all the time.. no disrespect...
Peace
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I apologize. Fuckwads was uncalled for. It wasn’t directed at either of you, but it was uncalled for anyhow. Rough start for me. Have a happy Friday y’all.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

This is illegal international drug trade.. while I can agree there should always be a level of being Civil ...
This board has 1 level of accountability. And it comes from us. If the community is not stressing Marcus the fuck out to keep him moving in the right direction we are not doing are job.. I like this source but he can he a little whinny and dodgy. This is out yard our rules not his..
Where i come from it's cowboy the fuck up and if it don't fit force and make it happen. You don't half ass shit and make excuses.. That is exacally what Marcus has done with the pictures and a couple of other things in the past.. Half assing it and making excuses is not excepted..
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I get where you’re coming from. I just don’t understand the need to have a gang of people demanding things over and over circle jerking. Make the stern demand, get acknowledgment from the source they are on it, wait a reasonable time for them to accomplish it. If they don’t, hit em harder. That’s just my opinion. It clearly isn’t shared by all and that’s perfectly acceptable.

 

[Ghoul]

The idea that GA (or any decent vendor that is actually doing some reasonable sales volume) can't afford to test every batch of every product is ridiculous. You would have to have an absolutely terrible business to not be able to afford Jano testing. The tests are not that expensive now. From what I've seen, GA has tested every batch except for a couple weird situations where the tests were late.

I'm also starting to agree with people who are wanting to push for sterility testing. Why not? Vendors are making A LOT of money off of us. If we all demand not only quantity and quality of compound testing but sterility as well, then vendors will do it. A critical mass of customers demanding anything will make that thing happen and the thought that asking for testing can't be done by a vendor is completely ridiculous. They absolutely can afford to test every batch as well as do sterility testing.

To be clear, my "affordability" comment was in relation to the insistence by some that GA pay for every customer that wants to blind test. That's just ridiculous.

 

[UncleBuns]

Hopefully this satisfies all the fuckwads that have been legitimately harassing you about this shit.

You show up and immediately are in you knees for a vendor. Bad way to start out here bud. This isn't a vendor forum.

 

[UncleBuns]

I get where you’re coming from. I just don’t understand the need to have a gang of people demanding things over and over circle jerking. Make the stern demand, get acknowledgment from the source they are on it, wait a reasonable time for them to accomplish it. If they don’t, hit em harder. That’s just my opinion. It clearly isn’t shared by all and that’s perfectly acceptable.

The reason you don't understand is because you're a new member and you don't understand why meso is the way it is. The reason meso is great and has a good vetting process for vendors is because it has a long history of pressuring vendors and holding them to the fire for standards, testing, etc.

New guys like you occasionally show up and have ridiculous ideas and want to protect and defend their favorite vendors like your buddies or something. It's very odd. The reason meso is great is because of the behavior that you are saying is bad. Not trying to be insulting, but your opinions on this topic are fairly worthless as you're a new member who has done no contribution to the forum at all and clearly do not understand how meso works or why. Meso is great.

 

[bjjgear]

The more business you give the vendor, the more success they have, the more popular they become, etc... the higher the standards to which we should hold them. And a serious business person will graciously comply with the demands of the folks who made them successful.

 

[readalot]

I'm also starting to agree with people who are wanting to push for sterility testing. Why not? Vendors are making A LOT of money off of us. If we all demand not only quantity and quality of compound testing but sterility as well, then vendors will do it. A critical mass of customers demanding anything will make that thing happen and the thought that asking for testing can't be done by a vendor is completely ridiculous. They absolutely can afford to test every batch as well as do sterility testing.

I'm leaning towards pressuring all vendors for further testing than current standard.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

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You show up and immediately are in you knees for a vendor. Bad way to start out here bud. This isn't a vendor forum

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You show up and immediately are in you knees for a vendor. Bad way to start out here bud. This isn't a vendor forum.

Way to quote my post after I apologized for the fuckwad comment. But yes, you were one of the ones I was referring to when I said that.

Oh yeah I’m totally on my knees for this source. Why don’t you go and look at my more recent posts in this thread where I’m advocating for making stern testing demands; just not advocating for a gang of meatheads circle jerking ramming a source over and over in short time frame when they are waiting on test results.

They didn’t test the product in the time frame YOU wanted them to, then vote with your wallet. If they’re not operating how YOU want them to, buy from another source.

I don’t understand what about that is difficult to comprehend.

I have my own opinions and view, and I don’t expect everyone to share them. So once again, I could give a fuck if you or anyone else thinks it’s a bad look.

 

[readalot]

Validation: Each batch of cleaned and sterilized vials must undergo physical, chemical, and microbiological testing (e.g., sterility testing, particle detection) to ensure they meet pharmacopeia standards.

Without the test results you are digging a bigger hole. How hard is it?

 

[iris]

Way to quote my post after I apologized for the fuckwad comment. But yes, you were one of the ones I was referring to when I said that.

Oh yeah I’m totally on my knees for this source. Why don’t you go and look at my more recent posts in this thread where I’m advocating for making stern testing demands; just not advocating for a gang of meatheads circle jerking ramming a source over and over in short time frame when they are waiting on test results.

They didn’t test the product in the time frame YOU wanted them to, then vote with your wallet. If they’re not operating how YOU want them to, buy from another source.

I don’t understand what about that is difficult to comprehend.

I have my own opinions and view, and I don’t expect everyone to share them. So once again, I could give a fuck if you or anyone else thinks it’s a bad look.

That's OK.
Maybe a bit of miscommunication.
You have your own way of checking on the vendor and so do they.
At the end of the day, it is the vendor that has to deal with their insistence and requests.
You can still go about stuff the way it works for you.
Have a good day.

 

[readalot]

Slowly but surely they will get checked off the list.


1.HPLC purity (done)

2.GCMS organic/structural impurities (seldomly done, customer driven so far)

3.Metals (TBD)

4. Sterility (a must)

5. Endotoxins (no reason not to have this data)

6. GCMS residual solvents (TBD)

It's coming. Wouldn't that be refreshing for a vendor to take the lead?

 

[Trenbolonetax]

The reason you don't understand is because you're a new member and you don't understand why meso is the way it is. The reason meso is great and has a good vetting process for vendors is because it has a long history of pressuring vendors and holding them to the fire for standards, testing, etc.

New guys like you occasionally show up and have ridiculous ideas and want to protect and defend their favorite vendors like your buddies or something. It's very odd. The reason meso is great is because of the behavior that you are saying is bad. Not trying to be insulting, but your opinions on this topic are fairly worthless as you're a new member who has done no contribution to the forum at all and clearly do not understand how meso works or why. Meso is great.

Just because I posted recently, doesn’t mean I haven’t been lurking for years. I’m aware of how meso works and its function as harm reduction for members. I’m all for that.

I’m not defending the vendor, I’m taking a reasonable approach to let him comply with the demands of the “gang” without literally verbally assaulting him.

You can hold someone to the fire with reasonable and stern discourse, instead of gang banging them in a time frame so short when they have already said they are working on it.

“not trying to be insulting” lol, but “your opinions are worthless.” Don’t bother prefacing with not trying to be insulting. Everyone knows the truth comes after the “but.”

I never said meso wasn’t great. It is great.

Aside from the underdosed viagara or some shit from a different product line, can you show me one instance of where GA has demonstrated subpar product / fucked someone over?

This is not a substitute for doing appropriate testing but ffs, he said he’s on it, I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt he’s on it, and I’m not gonna just keep coming in this thread daily reaming him for something that is going to take a bit longer to get results for.

And lastly, I couldn’t give 2 fucks if you think my opinion is worthless, amazing, or somewhere in between.

I’m here to kill time, ensure I’m using the best sources available to me and contribute to a forum of other folks who also are PED enthusiasts.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

The more business you give the vendor, the more success they have, the more popular they become, etc... the higher the standards to which we should hold them. And a serious business person will graciously comply with the demands of the folks who made them successful.

Precisely. This WILL work itself out, one way or another.

 

[UncleBuns]

Way to quote my post after I apologized for the fuckwad comment. But yes, you were one of the ones I was referring to when I said that.

Oh yeah I’m totally on my knees for this source. Why don’t you go and look at my more recent posts in this thread where I’m advocating for making stern testing demands; just not advocating for a gang of meatheads circle jerking ramming a source over and over in short time frame when they are waiting on test results.

They didn’t test the product in the time frame YOU wanted them to, then vote with your wallet. If they’re not operating how YOU want them to, buy from another source.

I don’t understand what about that is difficult to comprehend.

I have my own opinions and view, and I don’t expect everyone to share them. So once again, I could give a fuck if you or anyone else thinks it’s a bad look.

You are confusing me with others bud. Maybe try doing more reading and learning about Meso than muddying up threads with your nonsense. You unfortunately are fallen into a common New Member trap of thinking you know way more than you do. Here's some quotes to get you started:

The new guidance applies to new vendors. Obviously, many have already posted in the Steroid Underground subforum (and many other subforums) and have effectively been "grandfathered in".

However, I think we should expect (and pressure) everyone to provide lab testing for products given the relative ease and affordability of doing so thanks to services from @janoshik, @LAB4TOX, ChemTox, etc.

If compliance with these demands doesn't happen within a short period of time, the possibility is high that further restrictions will be implemented retroactively without notice.

Every subforum is accessible.

You shouldn't really give a fuck what sources think about it. This isn't for them. It's for everyone else (who is not a source).

There was nothing "harsh" about your post. My comment was merely a reaction to the idea that we should seek out source's input on how to keep them in check.

I know there is a lot of pandering to sources going on at several forums. MESO isn't the place for that. I want everyone to know that no one should be on their knees to placate sources on this forum. Allegiance to sources over the community is strongly discouraged. The driving imperative on this forum is to hold sources accountable.

I think power has definitely shifted towards the end-users with the availability of affordable lab testing and sites like MESO to hold sources accountable for what's being sold. This approach has done a lot towards minimizing the harm of androgen black markets.

You do know that the whole point of the Steroid Underground subforum is to hold sources accountable, don't you?

That means asking/encouraging/pressuring/badgering/demanding that UGLs are fully accountable for their products and services.

This is done with harm reduction in mind because consumers, even those using black market androgens, deserve to know exactly what they are injecting into their body.

The increasing amount of analytical lab testing is one of the biggest achievements in the AAS harm reduction space. It's still not enough. UGLs can do better.

Expecting and demanding that UGLs do more testing should be the default mode for members here.

Contrary to the prevailing sentiment in a few source threads, this forum does NOT exist so members can bow down, kiss the ring, and promote/defend the sources (from "a business owners (sic) perspective") against customer criticisms of their products/services.

We could do better with more members "badgering" sources/UGLs to remain accountable with things like increased lab testing.

And fewer members posting their obsequious, sycophantic bullshit.

I strongly encourage Members to hold all sources accountable. The best way to do that is to request, pressure, and demand (repeatedly and aggressively) that they conduct more lab testing on their products in the name of harm reduction.

I see absolutely no reason that anyone should discourage or otherwise prevent a Member from doing this under any circumstance. Anyone who defends sources against such requests is thwarting the community harm reduction efforts.

If there are any reasons, valid or not, that the source should not perform such analytical testing, the onus should be fully on the source to explain those reasons.

Sources should directly address the issue of refusing to perform lab tests (whether it's specific testing or frequency).

It is NOT the job of source sympathizers, sycophants, dickriders, etc. to defend the sources, represent the sources, or absolve the sources of any responsibility for not testing their products. Anyone who does this undermines the goals of a forum that prides itself on harm reduction.




Sources who extensively test their products provide a valuable harm reduction service. It's not nearly as valuable as independent member testing but does help hold them accountable.

But make no mistake, sources who lab test their products are doing so due to marketing pressures - it has become a cost of doing business required in the community. It is not an act of altruism but self-serving and profit-oriented.



We should appreciate members who contribute to lab testing at every level. But let's don't make it a moral issue or use it disparage or discredit those who are not in a position to spend money on testing.

MESO does not ban anyone for negative feedback on sources at all.

Holding sources fully accountable for every aspect of their product and service is strongly encouraged. This can't be overstated. It should be an automatic response for anyone interested in harm reduction and consumer protection.

However, there are other behaviors that are always completely unacceptable and you have been and will continue to be banned for them.

This is a harm reduction forum.

Wishing harm / injury / death on other members is not allowed.
Nor is talking about physically assaulting other members.