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From the study


There is no predictable pattern that correlates aggregates with adverse immuno response

I am looking for studies, that establish such a connection or at least show a pattern

Also we should see this in otherwise healthy adults; not genetic deficiencies or immunocompromised (bubble boys).
 
I have a source not active on meso that responded to me a few days ago. Said they are coming back after CNY but will only have peptides and HGH now. Said China says "no" on oils no.

Also, I think the heart you ordered is fine. From that picture, just looks like it crashed bc it's winter time. Just put it in the oven at 350F or on a hot plate for like 5-10mins, it should rise again.
But what sources is that?
 
I have a source not active on meso that responded to me a few days ago. Said they are coming back after CNY but will only have peptides and HGH now. Said China says "no" on oils no.

Also, I think the heart you ordered is fine. From that picture, just looks like it crashed bc it's winter time. Just put it in the oven at 350F or on a hot plate for like 5-10mins, it should rise again.
How can you contact them? and are they reliable? Have you placed any order with them?
 
What’s up with them? Haven’t heard shit from them in weeks.. i understand China is getting tougher to send shit.. but don’t they have US warehouses too, that they have supplies in? Wondering why they’re MIA
I just placed a domestic order with them a week ago. Tracy said he is just ignoring everyone but QSC excelsior status customers.

I got my T/A in 5 days

Good to go
 
Damn man, all these people on the “GLOW” protocol (GHK-Cu/BPC/TB-500) without knowing anything about aggregate formation. I guess no surprise with the lack of knowledge on the subject.
Experience is the best teacher. Negative experiences are few.. so why wouldn't they continue run it?
 
Experience is the best teacher. Negative experiences are few.. so why wouldn't they continue run it?
Good point. I guess thus far haven't heard of any negative experiences in regards to this. However I guess the rebuttal to that is that these protein aggregates can manifest a number of years after pinning mixes... Who tf knows anyways anymore.
 
Good point. I guess thus far haven't heard of any negative experiences in regards to this. However I guess the rebuttal to that is that these protein aggregates can manifest a number of years after pinning mixes... Who tf knows anyways anymore.
Lol the human body clears proteins a lot. Even the proteins you naturally produce aggregates. Our insulin, our Amylin, Our GH, it all aggregates. Some people naturally have issues clearing aggregates and that causes a whole lot of problems. This is not the same thing as aggregates in peptides causing issues. Yes, synthetic peptides can aggregate, yes aggregates can be toxic to cells.. but the reality is that common things occur commonly. Uncommon things, uncommonly. There are so many people doing stuff now that of these issues were very common, the anecdotes will be overwhelming. You cant hide immune reactions.
My advice is to filter if you are worried and stop taking a peptide if you have Severe ISR even after proper injection techniques. Definitely stop taking if you have a (severe) hypersensitivity reaction.
Afterall there are aggregates that will still pass through the .22 micron filter most people use.
If you are not having any reactions keep on keep keeping on...
 
I just placed a domestic order with them a week ago. Tracy said he is just ignoring everyone but QSC excelsior status customers.

I got my T/A in 5 days

Good to go
I'm at the QSC VIP lounge in Qingdao right now. Stacks of peptides at every table. The bailiu and dim sum is on point. So glad that I paid for the lifetime elite excelsior status membership. It was a steal for only 1 million shibu coins.
 
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Lol the human body clears proteins a lot. Even the proteins you naturally produce aggregates. Our insulin, our Amylin, Our GH, it all aggregates. Some people naturally have issues clearing aggregates and that causes a whole lot of problems. This is not the same thing as aggregates in peptides causing issues. Yes, synthetic peptides can aggregate, yes aggregates can be toxic to cells.. but the reality is that common things occur commonly. Uncommon things, uncommonly. There are so many people doing stuff now that of these issues were very common, the anecdotes will be overwhelming. You cant hide immune reactions.
My advice is to filter if you are worried and stop taking a peptide if you have Severe ISR even after proper injection techniques. Definitely stop taking if you have a (severe) hypersensitivity reaction.
Afterall there are aggregates that will still pass through the .22 micron filter most people use.
If you are not having any reactions keep on keep keeping on...

Ahhh, the compelling power of bro science.

It's so soothing.

TLDR: "If you don't lose an ass cheek, it's obviously fine".

I wonder what immunogenicity inducing growth hormone treatment failure feels like in the years it builds up to the point doctors noticed a lack of progress?

Another great point, some aggregates can pass through a .22um filter. So don't bother trying to eliminate the much larger aggregates most closely associated with immunogenicity. Got that? It makes perfect sense. You can't possibly eliminate all bacteria with your alcohol swab, so don't wipe your vial stoppers and stop wasting syringes. Plenty of gym bros have used the same pin dozens of times, year after year without issue. You're not sharing them with someone who's got AIDS, right? See, isn't "down home" common sense so comforting?

While we're at it, nevermind all the other particulate shit found in UGL vials. Injecting that on a daily basis isn't an issue either. Rubber, glass, metal. You haven't lost a body part right? The body clears all that stuff....somehow, so it doesn't cause micro emboli or get lodged in your organs, building up over thousands of injections,

Don't listen to what the FDA, and countless scientists refer to as a "critical" aspect of protein drug safety, the control of which is entirely ignored in UGL peptides, and then pretend UGL proteins must be just as safe because pharma largely is,

And we "eliminate proteins", so there's another great, reassuring point that science hasn't quite picked up on yet as they and the pharma industry pour massive resources into studying aggregation, the immunogenicity it induces, and how to reduce the threat, Those eggheads completely missed the body's ability to identify and immediately eliminate any weird synthetic protein aggregate not seen in nature. What a bunch of idiots .

See, here on MESO, particularly in this garbage thread, nuance doesn't exist. If something doesn't cause immediate, dramatic injury, it's not an issue. "Long term consequences" or "managing known but difficult to quantify risks" is scoffed at.

So don't take the simple precaution of filtering the particulates and aggregates out of the stuff you inject into yourself.

But be sure to keep drinking bottled water and change the filter in your refrigerator every 6 months....
 
The CBP has a set of new rules that'll go into effect around April. That's going to shrink the de minimus loophole that's allowed drugs and guns from China to easily slide through in small, duty exempt packs easily to a pinhole.

The bi partisan legislation to really crack down on de minimus, that's been in progress for the last two years, will be voted on soon, with the Dems in the Senate proposing to remove China from de minimus all together just a couple of days ago.

That means everything sent from China direct to consumers will no longer be able to bypass customs like 99% do now, and have to be fully processed the old fashioned way, with compete paperwork, items identified, and charged duties. The expectation is that these requirements will make it preferable for Chinese companies to just import products like they used to, the regular commercial way, and reselling from within the US, instead of sending direct to consumers. The "direct to consumer" packs will be reduced in volume by 90% or more, making it much easier for customs to scrutinize those packs.

TLDR: It's only going to get worse. Sending contraband from China directly to consumers will no longer be practical, and however sellers like QSC move forward, if they do, it'll be significantly different than the way they've done business for the last few years. If I had to guess they'll figure out some way to smuggle stuff in bulk, and stock and sell from domestic warehouses only. That'll mean a smaller selection and higher prices. Higher than current domestic prices.

As soon as CNY is over, and you've got anything you need but didn't "stock up" on earlier, if it's available international at a good price I wouldn't wait, and jump on it immediately before that door slams shut in the Spring at the latest.

As far as raws, if that was a strategic move by Chinese authorities to not aggravate the situation and risk inviting more and even higher tariffs, I don't see any reason why they'd start allowing it again. Why would they? The amount of money involved in illegal drug precursors of all types is nothing. It's not like some major source of income for China. They sell more in plastic straws in a day than AAS in a year.
In your opinion how is this going to effect India packs. The same?
 
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