Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

365 million/yr is literally nothing. Not even a hundredth of a percent of the federal revenue numbers for 2024.
But those packages are not $10 each. Let’s use the average price of $400 at a 10% tax, that is 5.8 billion. That isn’t including the packages that used the loophole to bypass taxes and now have to pay the actual tax.
 
I agree Mexico is hugely corrupt, and perhaps the flow of precursers shifted back to Mexico. But the fact they were sent to the US for years, until recently, because it was easier to slip through US customs than even the notoriously corrupt Mexican customs demonstrates the scale of the problem.

Being able to order kilo of bags full of white powdered controlled substances with Amazon like ease, even if only AAS, and know it had a 99.9% chance of arriving safely through US Customs is almost hard to believe, yet we accepted that as normal. ANY bag of white powder could get through under those circumstances. It's not like it was checked. and the authorities said, "oh, that's just a kilo of a schedule III drug, let it pass.",
For sure, completely agree with the sentiment. Was just commenting specifically that fentanyl precursors are majority Mexico received, Mexico cooked, Mexico shipped currently. Doesn't change anything you're saying though.

Also makes it a bit funny that the stated reason for a crackdown on Canada right now is to stop the flow of fentanyl, when I'm certain there is more fentanyl coming to American shores directly than from our neighbors to the north, regardless if the majority is coming from Mexico.
 
Its always about the money...if each of those 4 million packs is worth 10 bucks, a 10% tariff would be 1 million a day income. 365 Million a year...no politician on either side would leave that kind of money laying around...too many worthless causes to give it to.
They will find a system to collect those taxes without inspection, because it is just impossible to inspect a percentage of that volume to have any kind of lasting effect. Then the smugglers will exploit the new system and we still pay a tax for legal and illegal goods.
 
But those packages are not $10 each. Let’s use the average price of $400 at a 10% tax, that is 5.8 billion. That isn’t including the packages that used the loophole to bypass taxes and now have to pay the actual tax.
So you just reached about a tenth of 1% with that amount, still absolutely nothing.

The majority of money from tariffs will and does come from actual taxed freight. 10% of Apple's iPhone revenue alone would dwarf 10% taxes on every piece of legitimate de minimis shipments.

"Politicians getting their cut" is a fun thing to riff about, and there's certainly money being left on the table because people will risk expensive watches in a "sub $800 de minimis shipment" for example, but at the end of the day it's all dwarfed by actual industrial freight.
 
I’m only down one kit but man I feel bad for those of you buying for friends/family. Buying to resell is one thing but just doing a favor and the money goes *poof*.
 
The Fatty's ruined my fuckin steroid supply. Novo Nordisk greedy fucks probably had qsc shut down
I think fentanyl ruined your steroid supply but the GLP pressure didn’t help. I say that because I see comments from others saying these vendors are switching to all peptide sales.
 
You guys realize that other Sigma Chinese source resumed business today? I bought some stuff QSC didnt had there before. So Its not Goverment etc. If QSC is gonne, Its not cause totaly Chinese source Crash...
 
So you just reached about a tenth of 1% with that amount, still absolutely nothing.

The majority of money from tariffs will and does come from actual taxed freight. 10% of Apple's iPhone revenue alone would dwarf 10% taxes on every piece of legitimate de minimis shipments.

"Politicians getting their cut" is a fun thing to riff about, and there's certainly money being left on the table because people will risk expensive watches in a "sub $800 de minimis shipment" for example, but at the end of the day it's all dwarfed by actual industrial freight.
I never claimed that that is where most of the money comes from but I can ship in a lot of IPhones and claim that they are under $800. I ran the numbers for what would come in IF the rule was implemented correctly.There was talk on here of a helicopter being disassembled and shipped under this rule. We also can’t afford to leave money on the table right now because we have printed half of all the money in circulation over the last 5-6 years. Also, 5.8 billion a year is not nothing but they will bing in way more than that by closing this rule, I just can’t give you hard numbers.
 
So you just reached about a tenth of 1% with that amount, still absolutely nothing.

The majority of money from tariffs will and does come from actual taxed freight. 10% of Apple's iPhone revenue alone would dwarf 10% taxes on every piece of legitimate de minimis shipments.

"Politicians getting their cut" is a fun thing to riff about, and there's certainly money being left on the table because people will risk expensive watches in a "sub $800 de minimis shipment" for example, but at the end of the day it's all dwarfed by actual industrial freight.
The deminimis threshold was only raised in 2016. There will always be a threshold. They will probably lower it and not completely eliminate it There are other industries that have grown solely on the huge amount of imports.
 
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