Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[SpicyMeatball]

Brother, I hope I’m reading this wrong.

If not you are a smart guy but sometimes I think your lack of impulse control and desire to argue leads you to make poor assumptions and interpret things incorrectly.

You first point I agree with with. 100 percent. Hormones are collateral damage. Primary focus is narcotics with fentanyl being #1.

Hope you aren’t referring to me when talking about gaslighting and integrity.

The rest of what you said is a bit muddled, and I don’t want to comment on something I may misinterpret and further what may be misunderstanding.

Irregardless my message is directed at us as a community. We need to stop bemoaning this and cowboy up a bit. I’m over the whining.

While I enjoy being a hypocrite and getting cheap illicit hormones, my desire to see our country improve dramatically and corruption driven out of government (I’m a small government tough on crime guy) outweighs my desire to benefit from bloated government and corrupt politicians that allow drugs to flow unabated across our border despite unenforced policy.

If it all was directed at me. Go easy.

You (sometimes) use such harsh language and vitriolic attacks it detracts from any real point you have made and candidly lowers your credibility and the respect the community has for you.

If that doesn’t matter to you. Do you boo

that's some potent copium you managed to import before these bans kicked in!

 

[ddauria88]

Well Its 5th February and chinese Holidays end....we got probably robbed

And the world keeps spinning man.. if this is the case, it happens.

 

[Middus]

Fentanyl precursers are sent to the US, then smuggled into Mexico for manufacturing because their customs control was too strict for it to get in. Think about that.

What is there to think about? lol. They simply send the precursors to Mexico . Even US authorities agree that this has been increasingly happening. I mean this was the same thinking that made a country ban flights from one part of the world, but allowed flights from another part ,in the midst of a global contagion.. as if pathogens discriminate based on economic prowess or optics

 

[Middus]

The suspension of De Minimus is still in effect, no (I believe it is but not 100%) ? If so, then something was achieved right, wrong, or indifferent.

It's not kicked in fully. part of it is still in the public comment stage and best strategy is being explored. I suspect sone negotiations will eventually come into place, especially as belt tightening may be upon us.

 

[120nmol]

And the world keeps spinning man.. if this is the case, it happens.

No it keeps spinning if we will allow that
I payed 600 bucks when they requested the payment if that’s the case and I’m sure I’m not the only one in this boat the proper way to handle such a case is to boycott the rest of the suppliers from that region.

 

[Sicsemptyran]

Fentanyl precursers are sent to the US, then smuggled into Mexico for manufacturing because their customs control was too strict for it to get in. Think about that.

I agree with you on all your notes regarding the impact of de minimis and the hilarity of people acting like customs can't get strict, despite us seeing it all over the globe, but Mexico gets the majority of the precursors these days sent direct.

They may have some strict customs, but corruption is much more rampant in Mexico than it is in the US and it really does operate the way some people think customs in the US do, payment for large shipments to completely avoid customs. Acknowledged by both the Mexican and American governments, and regularly reported (recently as well) by FT/WSJ/NYT/etc. Some are certainly shipped into the US, but majority of precursors are sent and brewed in Mexico.

 

[Bigoldguy]

“This is a significant challenge for them because there were 4 million de minimis packages per day in 2024, and it is difficult to check all the packages — so it will take time,” she said.

This is about the taxes, nothing more, nothing less.

I do think all of this uncertainty increases the likelihood that if QSC comes back it will be under a new name and after the dust has settled.

Its always about the money...if each of those 4 million packs is worth 10 bucks, a 10% tariff would be 1 million a day income. 365 Million a year...no politician on either side would leave that kind of money laying around...too many worthless causes to give it to.

 

[Grey Spartan]

i got a message back from tracy on telegram asking what products i usually buy?
very strange

Just in case it is the CCP respond. "1 kilo of meth and 1 kilo of black tar heroin" lol

 

[Sicsemptyran]

Its always about the money...if each of those 4 million packs is worth 10 bucks, a 10% tariff would be 1 million a day income. 365 Million a year...no politician on either side would leave that kind of money laying around...too many worthless causes to give it to.

365 million/yr is literally nothing. Not even a hundredth of a percent of the federal revenue numbers for 2024.

 

[NiMa]

Tracy i miss you

 

[Ghoul]

I agree with you on all your notes regarding the impact of de minimis and the hilarity of people acting like customs can't get strict, despite us seeing it all over the globe, but Mexico gets the majority of the precursors these days sent direct.

They may have some strict customs, but corruption is much more rampant in Mexico than it is in the US and it really does operate the way some people think customs in the US do, payment for large shipments to completely avoid customs. Acknowledged by both the Mexican and American governments, and regularly reported (recently as well) by FT/WSJ/NYT/etc. Some are certainly shipped into the US, but majority of precursors are sent and brewed in Mexico.

I agree Mexico is hugely corrupt, and perhaps the flow of precursers shifted back to Mexico. But the fact they were sent to the US for years, until recently, because it was easier to slip through US customs than even the notoriously corrupt Mexican customs demonstrates the scale of the problem.

Being able to order kilo of bags full of white powdered controlled substances with Amazon like ease, even if only AAS, and know it had a 99.9% chance of arriving safely through US Customs is almost hard to believe, yet we accepted that as normal. ANY bag of white powder could get through under those circumstances. It's not like it was checked. and the authorities said, "oh, that's just a kilo of a schedule III drug, let it pass.",

 

[ddauria88]

No it keeps spinning if we will allow that
I payed 600 bucks when they requested the payment if that’s the case and I’m sure I’m not the only one in this boat the proper way to handle such a case is to boycott the rest of the suppliers from that region.

trolling right?

 

[BP_6]

I agree Mexico is hugely corrupt, and perhaps the flow of precursers shifted back to Mexico. But the fact they were sent to the US for years, until recently, because it was easier to slip through US customs than even the notoriously corrupt Mexican customs demonstrates the scale of the problem.

Being able to order kilo of bags full of white powdered controlled substances with Amazon like ease, even if only AAS, and know it had a 99.9% chance of arriving safely through US Customs is almost hard to believe, yet we accepted that as normal. ANY bag of white powder could get through under those circumstances. It's not like it was checked. and the authorities said, "oh, that's just a kilo of a schedule III drug, let it pass.",

A long time ago, I had a pack of about 100 of the brown bayer pakistan test enanthate amps get opened and still made it through for whatever reason. Shipped in for those that remember, a white cheesecloth, with a wax, red stamp that looked like a bomb.

The package had about a 4 inch, cut made with a razorblade along the edge just enough to let you pull it apart and see what was inside. Then that slit got taped closed with a very small pice of green customs tape.

I can only assume the customs guy was probably not in the mood to do with whatever paperwork was needed and in a hurry and just wanted to make sure it wasn't something dangerous and sad F it, and just let it through.

 

[Petarosus188]

No it keeps spinning if we will allow that
I payed 600 bucks when they requested the payment if that’s the case and I’m sure I’m not the only one in this boat the proper way to handle such a case is to boycott the rest of the suppliers from that region.

Im 1200 USD in...

 

[ddauria88]

Im 1200 USD in...

I’m 900. As well as glps for family members ( not sure how to tell them about this) lol

 

[LGOP528]

365 million/yr is literally nothing. Not even a hundredth of a percent of the federal revenue numbers for 2024.

But those packages are not $10 each. Let’s use the average price of $400 at a 10% tax, that is 5.8 billion. That isn’t including the packages that used the loophole to bypass taxes and now have to pay the actual tax.

 

[damian90k]

This is how ends buying from seller that sells underdosed, underfilled gear with floaters and tells his costumers that complain to eat dog shitt.

 

[Sicsemptyran]

I agree Mexico is hugely corrupt, and perhaps the flow of precursers shifted back to Mexico. But the fact they were sent to the US for years, until recently, because it was easier to slip through US customs than even the notoriously corrupt Mexican customs demonstrates the scale of the problem.

Being able to order kilo of bags full of white powdered controlled substances with Amazon like ease, even if only AAS, and know it had a 99.9% chance of arriving safely through US Customs is almost hard to believe, yet we accepted that as normal. ANY bag of white powder could get through under those circumstances. It's not like it was checked. and the authorities said, "oh, that's just a kilo of a schedule III drug, let it pass.",

For sure, completely agree with the sentiment. Was just commenting specifically that fentanyl precursors are majority Mexico received, Mexico cooked, Mexico shipped currently. Doesn't change anything you're saying though.

Also makes it a bit funny that the stated reason for a crackdown on Canada right now is to stop the flow of fentanyl, when I'm certain there is more fentanyl coming to American shores directly than from our neighbors to the north, regardless if the majority is coming from Mexico.

 

[youwhat?]

Law and order means no drugs. Find another source.

Wait a minute here….lol are we doing no drugs or just buying them from different people

 

[LGOP528]

Its always about the money...if each of those 4 million packs is worth 10 bucks, a 10% tariff would be 1 million a day income. 365 Million a year...no politician on either side would leave that kind of money laying around...too many worthless causes to give it to.

They will find a system to collect those taxes without inspection, because it is just impossible to inspect a percentage of that volume to have any kind of lasting effect. Then the smugglers will exploit the new system and we still pay a tax for legal and illegal goods.