Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[youwhat?]

Or maybe I’m the dumb one? Wouldn’t be the first time. Either way, have a good one lol. Law and order!

 

[Astartes]

You know we can see your posts, right? Are you intentionally stupid, or?

No. Fairly intelligent. I think you probably misread, given your reaction. It happens. For what it’s worth, you did make me go check my post history … I am getting older….

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[LGOP528]

Either we fix our country and tighten our belts or we languish in to obscurity. What happened to real men who were willing to sacrifice for their children. Jesus Christ almighty. Yep. Law and order means no drugs. Find another source.

Here is the quote in question. You are saying be a good sheep and follow the law in one breath and then next saying go find your illegal drugs from someone who imports them from the same place but charges you more. That is what the joke is about. Jesus Christ almighty.

 

[nowayhome2021]

you obviously missed the post of the saying they'll be back in "a few days". either that, or time just works differently in china

"time works differently in China" LOL. The comment section here is gold

 

[Evac513]

Just received my package of raws today, ordered back on January 3rd.

 

[Rakusa]

With all the drama going on with the US and china parcels: will this affect EU trade at all? We also have a lot of trade with china atm.

 

[LGOP528]

No. Fairly intelligent. I think you probably misread, given your reaction. It happens. For what it’s worth, you did make me go check my post history … I am getting older….

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To be fair, I think your statement about law and order and being tough on crime has more to do with what you feel is right and wrong not so much what the government says is illegal. I didn’t think it would go this far.

 

[Astartes]

To be fair, I think your statement about law and order and being tough on crime has more to do with what you feel is right and wrong not so much what the government says is illegal. I didn’t think it would go this far.

I wouldn’t disagree. I think your assessment is fair

 

[Sicsemptyran]

I am not really sure why you are in such denial about the possibility of our government wanting more tax money coming in.

Oh believe me, I'm not. I just think there's more to the gears that move the world than the overused tropes of "politicians getting their cut" and "doctors just want to prescribe meds for kickbacks".

This amount of money just isn't a needle mover for anyone other than the shippers, and while the government is always happy to have more money, to act like it is the main reason for this crackdown simply ignores numbers we're talking about and the political environment we're in.

Which, unfortunately, is likely a bad thing for AAS. If it was just a matter of revenue generation, then no one other than those who are likely too poor to smartly be doing AAS in the first place should be worried about supply.

 

[PolarBear88]

Just received my package of raws today, ordered back on January 3rd.

what did your tracking look like? was it updating regularly or no?

 

[LGOP528]

Oh believe me, I'm not. I just think there's more to the gears that move the world than the overused tropes of "politicians getting their cut" and "doctors just want to prescribe meds for kickbacks".

This amount of money just isn't a needle mover for anyone other than the shippers, and while the government is always happy to have more money, to act like it is the main reason for this crackdown simply ignores numbers we're talking about and the political environment we're in.

Which, unfortunately, is likely a bad thing for AAS. If it was just a matter of revenue generation, then no one other than those who are likely too poor to smartly be doing AAS in the first place should be worried about supply.

I think you are getting me mixed up with the person that made the claim about politicians getting kick backs. Dont get me wrong, the politicians are largely to blame here.

What is it that you think they are cracking down on?

 

[Sicsemptyran]

I think you are getting me mixed up with the person that made the claim about politicians getting kick backs. Dont get me wrong, the politicians are largely to blame here.

What is it that you think they are cracking down on?

I think my point is that the amount is trivial to the point that no one benefits from the actual revenue itself, no politician or government employee is getting rich off this, and it will never be a remotely meaningful amount of revenue to the federal government compared to its general revenue (which is in excess of 5 trillion dollars).

There's a few reasons, and none of them are good for AAS users. One is a general "stick it to China" mentality that certainly motivates the current administration and even the last one, and is a bipartisan popular stance to have (myself included!). The one way that some people (and politicians) can actually get rich from this is to simply cause it to be too much of a problem for Chinese importers to compete with certain domestic industries, therefore the goal is really to stop or slow the flow entirely, not just get a measly 10%.

Again, I think we're very much in agreement the government will always try to take more money and be happy about it when presented with an opportunity, but I think other factors are much more powerful here than the taxation piece. If it were just taxation, it would've happened sooner.

 

[Evac513]

what did your tracking look like? was it updating regularly or no?

It was an LZ number, I was able to track it on parcelsapp from the moment it was received in china and every movement it made all the way here.

 

[MissedArmDay66]

I bought from Violet, they were a couple dollars each I think. Got my order in just a few days. Violet's Research Supplies Order Form #8 - 2/3 Update

Thanks for the link, all kinds of supplies on there, made an order today

 

[LuceAniss]

Just received my package of raws today, ordered back on January 3rd.

Nice! Glad to hear people receiving shit still. Was yours an LZ tracking number? I ordered January 2nd and still nothing lol. Tracking isn’t even available

 

[LGOP528]

I think my point is that the amount is trivial to the point that no one benefits from the actual revenue itself, no politician or government employee is getting rich off this, and it will never be a remotely meaningful amount of revenue to the federal government compared to its general revenue (which is in excess of 5 trillion dollars).

There's a few reasons, and none of them are good for AAS users. One is a general "stick it to China" mentality that certainly motivates the current administration and even the last one, and is a bipartisan popular stance to have (myself included!). The one way that some people (and politicians) can actually get rich from this is to simply cause it to be too much of a problem for Chinese importers to compete with certain domestic industries, therefore the goal is really to stop or slow the flow entirely, not just get a measly 10%.

Again, I think we're very much in agreement the government will always try to take more money and be happy about it when presented with an opportunity, but I think other factors are much more powerful here than the taxation piece. If it were just taxation, it would've happened sooner.

Politicians already got rich over the last 5 years from the pharma and defense contracts it handed out. This is about servicing the debt that is growing at a rapid pace because of high interest rates. Everything else is collateral damage, including our bank accounts. Google the M1 money supply and see what it did between now and 2020. They need everything they can get.

It has been shown that closing this loophole could potentially generate upwards of 100 billion a year. I had to do some interpolation there because I have no idea what will now have to pay import taxes that was previously not. This is only one area where this is happening. The whole DOGE department is looking to save spending wherever.

I am going to stop here. At the end of the day none of this matters and until enough people see that both sides are playing us against each other, nothing will change. I also could be completely wrong.

M1

View a measure of the most-liquid assets in the U.S. money supply: cash, checking accounts, traveler's checks, demand deposits, and other checkable deposits.

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Still think this is about “Sticking it to China”?

 

[Evac513]

Nice! Glad to hear people receiving shit still. Was yours an LZ tracking number? I ordered January 2nd and still nothing lol. Tracking isn’t even available

Yep LZ and it tracked all the way

 

[egruberman]

. This is about servicing the debt that is growing at a rapid pace because of high interest rates.

Nobody in this administration or the last several has demonstrated any concern over the growing national deficit. It is a thing that gets politicized often, usually portending doom and gloom, but the value of the US Dollar is predicated on faith and very little else. US Treasuries being considered one of the most stable assets into which one can put money. I don't think anyone is really certain the extent to which that can be leveraged. This is a topic of debate among many economists with way more knowledge on the topic than I have.

It has been shown that closing this loophole could potentially generate upwards of 100 billion a year.

For one, I very seriously doubt that analysis and for two, that'd still represent less than 2% of the annual federal budget.

The whole DOGE department is looking to save spending wherever.

If they were looking to save spending wherever they would be going after the military industrial complex, specifically, contractors and suppliers in total receive ~6.5% of the total federal budget, while civilian federal employees comprise about 5% of the federal budget in total. If 20% of those are superfluous that saves roughly 1% a drop in the bucket compared to military discretionary spending, which is where DOGE should be focused, but is not.

I am going to stop here. At the end of the day none of this matters and until enough people see that both sides are playing us against each other, nothing will change. I also could be completely wrong.

In this, you are correct.

Still think this is about “Sticking it to China”?

Not so much. It's about presenting a plausible threat in the trade war against China. Right or wrong, 45 has a rather simplistic view of global trade and seems to feel that the US has fared poorly in this regard. The threats of tariffs seem intended to yield concessions from our "enemies".

Thus far, that seems to have worked, at least to the extent that he's been appeased. Whether or not actual concessions become manifest remains to be seen. With regard to de minimis exceptions, I think the pressure to crack down on it comes from corporations in the US that can't manage to complete with the likes of Temu. What the hell was Bezos doing at the inauguration I wonder?

 

[Petarosus188]

Nobody in this administration or the last several has demonstrated any concern over the growing national deficit. It is a thing that gets politicized often, usually portending doom and gloom, but the value of the US Dollar is predicated on faith and very little else. US Treasuries being considered one of the most stable assets into which one can put money. I don't think anyone is really certain the extent to which that can be leveraged. This is a topic of debate among many economists with way more knowledge on the topic than I have.



For one, I very seriously doubt that analysis and for two, that'd still represent less than 2% of the annual federal budget.



If they were looking to save spending wherever they would be going after the military industrial complex, specifically, contractors and suppliers in total receive ~6.5% of the total federal budget, while civilian federal employees comprise about 5% of the federal budget in total. If 20% of those are superfluous that saves roughly 1% a drop in the bucket compared to military discretionary spending, which is where DOGE should be focused, but is not.



In this, you are correct.



Not so much. It's about presenting a plausible threat in the trade war against China. Right or wrong, 45 has a rather simplistic view of global trade and seems to feel that the US has fared poorly in this regard. The threats of tariffs seem intended to yield concessions from our "enemies".

Thus far, that seems to have worked, at least to the extent that he's been appeased. Whether or not actual concessions become manifest remains to be seen. With regard to de minimis exceptions, I think the pressure to crack down on it comes from corporations in the US that can't manage to complete with the likes of Temu. What the hell was Bezos doing at the inauguration I wonder?

In case you dont get it, they rely on inflation paying thé deficit. And when Its not high enough, they print more money...like Biden did. Whole economy Is one big scam with no real substance.

 

[Bigoldguy]

I actually ran my numbers with a 1% tax. There is a lot of revenue that will come in from this and it is getting sold to us as they are cleaning up the fentanyl.

But with all due respect, and remember I'm sayin' with all due respect, that idea ain't worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on.

How much tariff would there be in that painting?