Time to start using insulin?

[Training till failure]

Stop giving advice

I'm always willing to hear people out including his advice.

@-C19H28O2- do you have any pictures of yourself running 3 grams for 5 years straight, eating 7 meals of clean food, enough sleep and training every body part once a week till failure?

If so can we see, as this would show that your advice is genuine and good advice if you've gone and done that yourself.

 

[Juicedhead]

if your diet is clean enough i would throw in some slin for sure.

 

[hellogre2]

So we have a guy that says he grew more having his dose divided by 4 and now we have the guy that tells you to use 3 grams of gear with boatload of gh and slin is the only way "to get big"
Thats meso for you, never lacking nuance and subtility. They are both dumb behavior. What about trying to find balance between health while always being the biggest guy in the room ? A gram divided between test/any dht and 6iu of gh can go a long way, not interfering with your daily life (no anxiety, paranoia, fight & fly mode h24) and not looking you will die from inflammation anytime soon.

 

[Training till failure]

if your diet is clean enough i would throw in some slin for sure.

Well I eat 5 meals a day that consists of either chicken, mince beef, rice and mixed veg with stuff like Greek yogurt, porridge, bananas, hazelnut spread sandwich, noodles, nuts, lactose free milk, egg whites, peanut butter, soya milk, rice cakes etc.

Weather you consider that clean or not I ain't sure.

However I thought you only take insulin when you are bashing carbs to put less stress on the pancreas?

So I can take insulin regardless?

I'm sure it's 1iu of insulin per 10 grams of carbs?

 

[Juicedhead]

So we have a guy that says he grew more having his dose divided by 4 and now we have the guy that tells you to use 3 grams of gear with boatload of gh and slin is the only way "to get big"
Thats meso for you, never lacking nuance and subtility. They are both dumb behavior. What about trying to find balance between health while always being the biggest guy in the room ? A gram divided between test/any dht and 6iu of gh can go a long way, not interfering with your daily life (no anxiety, paranoia, fight & fly mode h24) and not looking you will die from inflammation anytime soon.

well it depends on how big youre talking here are we talking like 300lb lean big for 250lb lean big?

 

[Juicedhead]

Well I eat 5 meals a day that consists of either chicken, mince beef, rice and mixed veg with stuff like Greek yogurt, porridge, bananas, hazelnut spread sandwich, noodles, nuts, lactose free milk, egg whites, peanut butter, soya milk, rice cakes etc.

Weather you consider that clean or not I ain't sure.

However I thought you only take insulin when you are bashing carbs to put less stress on the pancreas?

So I can take insulin regardless?

I'm sure it's 1iu of insulin per 10 grams of carbs?

It should only really be used if youre taking in low fat like I would only use it around training with zero fats or like 1g of fat. It can make you fat is the problem. So thats why you see guys push carbs really high with almost no fats its cuz they are probabaly on slin. If youve never used slin before the best way to start is to just throw in like 5iu post training of a rapid acting and just add carbs to yyour post work out shake. and then make sure not to have any fats for at least a few hours after.

 

[Training till failure]

So we have a guy that says he grew more having his dose divided by 4 and now we have the guy that tells you to use 3 grams of gear with boatload of gh and slin is the only way "to get big"
Thats meso for you, never lacking nuance and subtility. They are both dumb behavior. What about trying to find balance between health while always being the biggest guy in the room ? A gram divided between test/any dht and 6iu of gh can go a long way, not interfering with your daily life (no anxiety, paranoia, fight & fly mode h24) and not looking you will die from inflammation anytime soon.

I'm assuming if the advice he is giving, he would atleast have something to show for it to justify his words.

Now I can say I've grown more on 200mg of test and GHRP-6 than I did on grams of gear.

Only things that changed was my diet and training.

I'm assuming he must have his diet and training nailed to justify his advice, as he clearly isn't saying you don't have to eat a lot and don't have to train.

Give him a chance to show weather or not he has applied his own advice, because if he has something to show for it, then his advice is as valid as any other members on here if he's done that himself.

 

[Training till failure]

It should only really be used if youre taking in low fat like I would only use it around training with zero fats or like 1g of fat. It can make you fat is the problem. So thats why you see guys push carbs really high with almost no fats its cuz they are probabaly on slin. If youve never used slin before the best way to start is to just throw in like 5iu post training of a rapid acting and just add carbs to yyour post work out shake. and then make sure not to have any fats for at least a few hours after.

I have some long acting slin around from when I was 19. Just never used it lol.

However probably not bright to start with long acting if I've never used slin.

I'm already lean asf, so getting fat doesn't concern me as I don't really put on any unwanted weight regardless really.

 

[Juicedhead]

I have some long acting slin around from when I was 19. Just never used it lol.

However probably not bright to start with long acting if I've never used slin.

I'm already lean asf, so getting fat doesn't concern me as I don't really put on any unwanted weight regardless really.

idk about long acting. I have some myself but am not sure if the fats need to be low on a long acting. I looked into but couldnt find out anything about it for some reason no one seems to have asked the question "can I eat fats on a long acting insulin?" Im not an expert on slin to say the least.

 

[hellogre2]

So we have a guy that says he grew more having his dose divided by 4 and now we have the guy that tells you to use 3 grams of gear with boatload of gh and slin is the only way "to get big"
Thats meso for you, never lacking nuance and subtility. They are both dumb behavior. What about trying to find balance between health while always being the biggest guy in the room ? A gram divided between test/any dht and 6iu of gh can go a long way, not interfering with your daily life (no anxiety, paranoia, fight & fly mode h24) and not looking you will die from inflammation anytime soon

I'm assuming if the advice he is giving, he would atleast have something to show for it to justify his words.

Now I can say I've grown more on 200mg of test and GHRP-6 than I did on grams of gear.

Only things that changed was my diet and training.

I'm assuming he must have his diet and training nailed to justify his advice, as he clearly isn't saying you don't have to eat a lot and don't have to train.

Give him a chance to show weather or not he has applied his own advice, because if he has something to show for it, then his advice is as valid as any other members on here if he's done that himself.

Are you really implying you need to train and eat to grow?

 

[Training till failure]

So we have a guy that says he grew more having his dose divided by 4 and now we have the guy that tells you to use 3 grams of gear with boatload of gh and slin is the only way "to get big"
Thats meso for you, never lacking nuance and subtility. They are both dumb behavior. What about trying to find balance between health while always being the biggest guy in the room ? A gram divided between test/any dht and 6iu of gh can go a long way, not interfering with your daily life (no anxiety, paranoia, fight & fly mode h24) and not looking you will die from inflammation anytime soon

Are you really implying you need to train and eat to grow?

Well yeah obviously you need to train and eat to grow. More and more food progressing the intake from quality sources and training hard progressing lifts.

 

[hellogre2]

Well yeah obviously you need to train and eat to grow. More and more food progressing the intake from quality sources and training hard progressing lifts.

It has nothing to do with gear usage. Gear is just a multiplier. You'd get way more gains using a bit more gear and keeping your training and eating dialed in.

 

[Training till failure]

It has nothing to do with gear usage. Gear is just a multiplier. You'd get way more gains using a bit more gear and keeping your training and eating dialed in.

That doesn't sound right at all.

If you kept your food intake the same and training the same, then more drugs don't equal more growth.

So you telling me if I eat 3000 calories a day, train with the same weight and not progress the food or training, and just keep increasing my dosage I will continue to keep growing without increasing those 2 very important factors for growth that is the fundamentals of bodybuilding?

That just doesn't sound right at all.

 

[hellogre2]

That doesn't sound right at all.

If you kept your food intake the same and training the same, then more drugs don't equal more growth.

So you telling me if I eat 3000 calories a day, train with the same weight and not progress to food or training, and just keep increasing my dosage I will continue to keep growing without increasing those 2 very important factors for growth that is thr fundamentals of bodybuilding?

That just doesn't sound right at all.

I said "dialed in" not "exactly the same". Basic reading skill should come first before blasting gear, kinda understand those 200 mg.

If your training looks the same on 200mg of test vs 500mg test + a DHT, you might rethink your gear usage. And if you can't add the 300-400 calories needed to grow with more gear, you might rethink it again.

 

[accidentaljedi173]

That doesn't sound right at all.

If you kept your food intake the same and training the same, then more drugs don't equal more growth.

So you telling me if I eat 3000 calories a day, train with the same weight and not progress the food or training, and just keep increasing my dosage I will continue to keep growing without increasing those 2 very important factors for growth that is the fundamentals of bodybuilding?

That just doesn't sound right at all.

You need to stop.

 

[Training till failure]

I said "dialed in" not "exactly the same". Basic reading skill should come first before blasting gear, kinda understand those 200 mg.

If your training looks the same on 200mg of test vs 500mg test + a DHT, you might rethink your gear usage. And if you can't add the 300-400 calories needed to grow with more gear, you might rethink it again.

That was literally the point I was making...

You have to eat more and progress your lifts to grow in order to justify blasting more and more gear.

If you keep the calories and training the same, even if it's clean asf you will not grow regardless how much you choose to blast.

Just water weight lol.

You said:
"Are you really implying you need to train and eat to grow?"

Well yes obviously or you will not grow regardless of how much you blast.

Now if you increase everything from food, training and good sleep PLUS bashing gear, then yes you would grow more.

That's why I mentioned GHRP-6 as it helps you eat like a horse, and food is what makes you grow, the drugs come second.

 

[-C19H28O2-]

I'm always willing to hear people out including his advice.

@-C19H28O2- do you have any pictures of yourself running 3 grams for 5 years straight, eating 7 meals of clean food, enough sleep and training every body part once a week till failure?

If so can we see, as this would show that your advice is genuine and good advice if you've gone and done that yourself.

Im not running 3grams for 5 yrs ,it’s more an up and down for 10 yrs now. Lot of sickness ,lot of mental problems. I’m 6‘1 285lbs not lean not fat ,eating 6k. Posted pictures in the past.
I’m talking about sources and taking steroids ,I don’t post pictures anymore because in my country it’s freaking illegal and I Already paid my dues…

 

[accidentaljedi173]

Im not running 3grams for 5 yrs ,it’s more an up and down for 10 yrs now. Lot of sickness ,lot of mental problems. I’m 6‘1 285lbs not lean not fat ,eating 6k. Posted pictures in the past.
I’m talking about sources and taking steroids ,I don’t post pictures anymore because in my country it’s freaking illegal and I Already paid my dues…

Wait there's dues to pay?!?

 

[-C19H28O2-]

Wait there's dues to pay?!?

Punishment ,penalty…better ?

 

[accidentaljedi173]

Punishment ,penalty…better ?

No